Connecticut Rebate Law

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TheDon

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Originally posted by: joeski
Only rich people pay taxes. That is anyone making $28,000/year. Let's give more tax breaks to people who pay $0 taxes :disgust:

Damnit! That means that I'll have to pay taxes on my rebates! (j/k)
 

Healey

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Found this in re: calif rebates. Hope it doesn't pass 'cause it will probably spell the end to rebates in the Golden State...

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CALIFORNIA SUITS THREATEN REBATES

Online Exclusive, Nov 5 2002


Recent class-action suits against rebate programs may spur marketers to void mail-in rebates in California.
Suits against marketers including Eastman Kodak Co. allege that offers violate California law if they require consumers to take some action and/or provide personal information to collect a rebate. The suit against Kodak cites a state statute that prohibits marketers from saying consumers will get "a rebate, discount, or other economic benefit, if the earning of the benefit is contingent on an event to occur subsequent to the consummation of the transaction."

That means only rebates redeemable at point of sale would be allowed, according to law firm Loeb & Loeb, New York City. Marketers couldn't require Californians to mail a form, sales receipt, or UPC code, per Loeb & Loeb. The Kodak suit argues that marketers profit from attrition when purchasers don't bother to submit paperwork for a rebate.





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FreakyGuy

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Can someone interpret this for me? All that legalese speak confuses me. Too many comma's. Can someone interpret where it says
that companies dealing in CT cannot advertise the rebated price of a product in larger print than the actual price, unless they plan to give you the rebate at the register
in the law?
 

lupi

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Taking the "Bait" Out of Rebates
Rebate offers can be irresistible to consumers, slashing the price of consumer goods at the time of purchase or promising partial or full reimbursements after the purchase.

Some manufacturers and retailers entice shoppers with instant cash rebates that can be redeemed immediately at the checkout counter.

But most rebates are of the mail-in variety. They require consumers to pay the full cost of an item at the time purchase, then to send documentation to the manufacturer or retailer to receive a rebate by mail.

The documentation required generally includes the original sales receipt, UPC code, rebate slip, and the customer's name, address and telephone number. In most cases, this paperwork must be sent to the manufacturer or retailer within 30 days of the purchase. Consumers generally receive their rebates up to 12 weeks later.

But the Federal Trade Commission cautions consumers against being "baited" by rebates that never arrive or arrive far later than promised. By law, companies are required to send rebates within the time frame promised, or if no time is specified, within 30 days.

When purchasing a product that offers a rebate, the FTC encourages consumers to:

Follow the instructions on the rebate form and enclose all required documentation in the envelope when filing for a rebate.
Make a copy of all paperwork to be mailed when applying for a rebate. It's the only record a consumer will have of the transaction if anything goes wrong.
Contact the company if the rebate doesn't arrive within the time promised.
If the rebate never arrives or arrives late, file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission, the state Attorney General or the local Better Business Bureau.
The FTC works for the consumer to prevent fraudulent, deceptive and unfair business practices in the marketplace and to provide information to help consumers spot, stop and avoid them. To file a complaint or to get free information on consumer issues, visit www.ftc.gov or call toll-free, 1-877-FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357); TTY: 1-866-653-4261. The FTC enters Internet, telemarketing, identity theft and other fraud-related complaints into Consumer Sentinel, a secure, online database available to hundreds of civil and criminal law enforcement agencies in the U.S. and abroad.

 

meefmah

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FreakyGuy wrote:
Can someone interpret this for me? All that legalese speak confuses me. Too many comma's. Can someone interpret where it says
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that companies dealing in CT cannot advertise the rebated price of a product in larger print than the actual price, unless they plan to give you the rebate at the register
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If I am interpreting it correctly, the law is saying that the advertised price must be the price at the point of sale. If there are mail-in rebates, they must still advertise the same "point of sale" price, but would most likely say "Less $XX.xx mail-in rebate". It is to the retailer's advantage to advertise the before rebate price, as this is the price the consumer will be required to pay. The law has simplified advertisements for the consumer, if it's advertised at $X then the consumer pays $X. I do not see where it states that the type size is a concern.
 

Servbot

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I would think that if anything, a law like this would cause businesses to stop doing rebates altogether. Rebates are basically a marketing tool used to get people to buy the product at the time. I'd bet there's a large percentage of people who buy something thinking its cheap and never send in the rebates. Hell, I forget from time to time. If they stand to make less money because of this sort of law, they will probably find other promotions.
 

Thump553

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I've lived in CT for many verys, and am quite familiar with its law and statutes, and in particular, this one. Some points:

1) This law has been around for many years. CT Attorney General Richard Blumenthal cannot take credit for this baby although I'm sure he would truly love to. (A frequent saying in CT is that the most dangerous place in CT is between Blumenthal and a TV camera).

2) Repeated violation of this law is an unfair trade practice under CT. If the violator is a small retailer, they shoud expect the aforementioned Blumenthal badgering them to his fullest, issuing frequent press releases how he is defending us from unscrupulous vendors at a minimum. More importantly, CT's unfair trade practices law provides for triple damages and actual attorney fees. If you find a violation by a major retailer, you will not have any trouble finding a reputable attorney to pursue it. Have you seen the fees awarded in class action suits these days?

3) As a practical matter, this law means that retailers don't advertise, for example, "100 Fuji CDR for $2.99" in big print in their flyers. Instead they advertise "100 Fuji CDR for $22.99" in large print and immediately below, in medium size but smaller printer "$22.99 less $20 mail in rebate = $2.99 your final cost*" with the asterick leading to fine print somewhere in the flyer that explains you will have postage, etc. with a MIR.

4) It is extremely rare that a store's flyers published in a CT newspaper aren't are set up like laid out in #3 above. I'd say I notice an apparent violation once a year at the most.

In summary, its a decent law which makes advertising circulars more honest, but its no miracle solution by any means.
 

joeski

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$28/year is the Democrat definition of rich. Do the research. More tax cuts for people who do not pay INCOME taxes!
 

Hector13

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What I'd REALLY like to see is for customers to pay the after rebate price and have the store do all the rebate processing on their end. Why can't they do this in the first place? I think its because rebate companies can't get away with a missing rebate when a big corporation/store requests the rebates, but they can do it to a few individuals.

You are kidding right? If stores had to do this, there would be no more rebates. The whole concept behind rebates is that companies know some large percentage of the people (like me, sadly) are too damn lazy to ever turn them in.
 

Bowfinger

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That's really cool. It's funny, but as I was reading last Sunday's ads, I told my wife it ought to be illegal to advertise rebate prices as the "sale" price. I'm going to send a copy to my state legislators, tell them we need a law like this.

Does this mean that places like Best Buy and CompUSA have different sales flyers in CT? They seem to be the worst offenders.

Hot for you lucky CT'ers.
 

Vegito

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yeap, thats why when u goto the cc or bby flyer look up, u put in ur zip code..

i live in ny and works in ct.. sweet.
 

GetReal

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There is nothing new here. Similar laws exists in other states including NY, NJ, PA, OH, MA, AZ, OR, and RI. However, they are basically useless because of lack of enforcement by those states AGs or consumer protection bureaus. The only possible benefit to consumers is through intimidation of your local store manager who is not wise to the lack of enforcement or the consumer's willingness to peruse the issue through the civil courts system in their state. At the corporate level, all of the stores who violate these never enforced consumer trade practices laws do so with full knowledge that they are in violation. From a cost perspective for these companies, it is cheaper to gamble of the few consumers who might peruse the issue than it is to change their advertising practices which are proven to be very effective with consumers. In addition to the excerpt posted by the originator of this thread here another important excerpt from the same CT statute...

...A rebate form stating any required conditions for rebate fulfillment for must be made available to the consumer prior to purchase if requested by the consumer. If a rebate form is not available or is determined to be in error with the advertised offer, the advertised after-rebate price will serve as the final price to be paid by the consumer at the point of sale.




 

rile0161

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Wouldn't all mail in rebates be in violation of this law due to the need to purchase a stamp? Unless the AR price factored in the stamp cost.
 

Mrdzone

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Originally posted by: GetReal
There is nothing new here. Similar laws exists in other states including NY, NJ, PA, OH, MA, AZ, OR, and RI.


Could you point me to that OH law as I dug around the consumer protection site there for a while and couldn't come up with anything
 

FeeNixed

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Thanks intake77 !!
I'll have to give this a try. I'm a bit leery of getting on the bad side of a store manager though so it better be worth it.
 

TraderGordo

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Taking out only the rebate portion I read:
"It shall be an unfair or deceptive act or practice to advertise the availability of a manufacturer's rebate by displaying the net price of the advertised item in the advertisement, unless the amount of the manufacturer's rebate is provided to the consumer by the retailer at the time of purchase of the advertised item."


Am I the only one here that interpreted this law differently than the original poster? After re-reading it several times I understand how you came to your conclusion (which is probably the correct interpretation) but honestly the first time I read it it sounded like they were trying to say "its illegal to advertise a net price (after rebate price) without telling the customer the actual price before rebate". There is NOTHING about big print / small print, etc.

Couldn't "the amount of the manufacturer's rebate is provided" be interpreted as EITHER giving cash to the customer, OR giving the customer the info about the rebate (i.e. telling the customer what "the amount" of the rebate is)? I can see a lot of retailers worming their way out of this by interpreting it the way I did upon first reading.
 

TraderGordo

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Also -- to get a law enforced, don't you call a law enforcement officer? Why would you bother with atorney generals or courts?

Someone should get a video tape of this for our entertainment. "Give me the rebate right now or I'm calling the cops!!!"


 

joeski

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Originally posted by: huesmann
Rush Limberger can kiss my sweet patootie!

Rush is only an "entertainer", what's to worry?


The truth can hurt. Yeah! Bill Clinton never lied.

 
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