A gun is nothing but an inanimate hunk of metal until it is used as a weapon by a PERSON, fuck me, who's the stupid one here?
a car is not a weapon until it is used as such. A gun is a weapon at all times! Fuck me are you stupid?
no you are missing the point. cars are not made as a weapon with the sole purpose of killing either man or animal. Guns are.
is this concept to hard for you to understand?
Well it's a true statement although I don't see how it's relevant. I don't make an omelette with a brick either...so what?
AKA NRA padding Politician's pockets to ignore the issues.
Under 18 U.S.C. § 922(d), it is unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution.
Not sure how a nut with these kinds of mental disorders can legally purchase a gun unless his parents never took him to a proper doctor to have him diagnosed.
It's relevant because it debunks those false equivalencies being made about planes and vans etc,...
I don't think I, or anyone, said to ban guns anyway. Don't know where you got that from.
If someone can explain to me how a hulk of metal driven into a crowd in a purposeful manner to kill people isn't a weapon then please...enlighten me.
What are you debunking? It's a valid and logical comparison. Do weapons think and function by themselves without human interaction?
A weapon: "a thing designed or used for inflicting bodily harm or physical damage"
Shooter is 20 years old... Doubtful they were all legal if any of them
Not normally my method, but: FUCK OFF
Let's get down to it, America is a violent culture that cheers and applauds the worse kinds of violence. We abhor sexuality but relish in our love for anything violent in our media.
Our video games are the most violent, our movies are the most violent and you can find the greatest buffet of violence on TV. I don't know of any civilized country that has a more violent culture than we do.
All of this violence has a cost associated with it, this is the cost.
Prohibition doesn't work in the USA. Drugs and Alcohol have shown us that. What we do need to look at though is the media and Hollywood and all the violence shoved down the average American's throat.
Look at the box office at any given time and you'll find a movie with a higher murder/death toll than even this massacre. Right now it's yet another Quentin Tarantino murder masturbation flick. It's also going to win tons of awards and people are lapping it up in droves. Americans love violence and always have. So until our culture no longer revels in watching others murdered by the buckets on the big screen we're not going to stop reveling in the murder of others period.
A car isn't designed to inflict damage like a gun is. What is the purpose of a gun? So you can drive it to work? Fly it to Florida?
Strawman bypassed...
Guns are not the problem here. The problem is that for the last 30 years, kids have been raised on violent movies, music, video games, the internet and NOT by their parents. All these forms of media de-sensitize young minds and we should not be surprised that disturbed people act out things they have seen and heard before. Blaming guns is not the answer as they are harder to obtain than they ever were.
Taken from the following article.
"Since 1980, single victim killings have dropped by more than 40 percent. While that's very good news, there's a new sobering trend: Mass murders are on the rise. This New York Times article researched the frequency of mass murders. It found during the 20th century there were about one to two mass murders per decade until 1980. Then for no apparent reason they spiked, with nine during the 1980s and 11 in the 1990s. Since the year 2000 there have been at least 26, including the massacre in Aurora, Colorado."
What has changed during this time period folks? It seems pretty obvious to me.
Let's get down to it, America is a violent culture that cheers and applauds the worse kinds of violence. We abhor sexuality but relish in our love for anything violent in our media.
Our video games are the most violent, our movies are the most violent and you can find the greatest buffet of violence on TV. I don't know of any civilized country that has a more violent culture than we do.
All of this violence has a cost associated with it, this is the cost.
Prohibition doesn't work in the USA. Drugs and Alcohol have shown us that. What we do need to look at though is the media and Hollywood and all the violence shoved down the average American's throat.
Look at the box office at any given time and you'll find a movie with a higher murder/death toll than even this massacre. Right now it's yet another Quentin Tarantino murder masturbation flick. It's also going to win tons of awards and people are lapping it up in droves. Americans love violence and always have. So until our culture no longer revels in watching others murdered by the buckets on the big screen we're not going to stop reveling in the murder of others period.
Guns are not the problem here. The problem is that for the last 30 years, kids have been raised on violent movies, music, video games, the internet and NOT by their parents.
I know one thing for sure (my wife and I were talking about this on our walk tonight)....the fact that parents can't bust their kids ass without getting arrested these days. A whole generation has now grown up with these stipulations. Anyone else notice the age of the killers lately?
I'm so really sick over the entire thing. There are 20 families, and countless others that are indirect, that are living a pure hell right now....a parents worst nightmare. I don't even know what to say anymore.....the grief is beyond miserable.
RIP and may God watch over and help the families get through this as well as helping the kids that had to see this happen. So very sad and senseless...so very sad.
Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but I've noticed a pattern that most mass shootings occur in "gun free zones" . . . malls and schools, and even the theatre in CO are examples . . .
That is exactly the point and what is always on my mind. I wish more citizens of this country would try and implement this utilizing their rights.
Do you think the founders of this country trusted as blindly?
Christ i am so sick of this retarded argument.
I know one thing for sure (my wife and I were talking about this on our walk tonight)....the fact that parents can't bust their kids ass without getting arrested these days. A whole generation has now grown up with these stipulations. Anyone else notice the age of the killers lately?
I'm so really sick over the entire thing. There are 20 families, and countless others that are indirect, that are living a pure hell right now....a parents worst nightmare. I don't even know what to say anymore.....the grief is beyond miserable.
RIP and may God watch over and help the families get through this as well as helping the kids that had to see this happen. So very sad and senseless...so very sad.
I don't even understand what you just said. Can you re-articulate your point?
Mine is that you seem to "other-ize" the government and see it as an opposing force. I see it as an extension of our collective societal ambitions and desires.