Cop abuse incident in Texas

Page 13 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
33,260
16,580
136
Dropping a wiki link in lieu of explaining your reasoning in your own words tells us you don't really know what you're talking about and have talked yourself into a corner. You arent hiding anything from anyone. The fact you are resorting to this type of post says everything we need to know about you.


It's way more effort than rudeguy deserves. Maybe you can fill in for rudeguy and the conversation might improve
 

Blanky

Platinum Member
Oct 18, 2014
2,457
12
46
Its a nice gif though.
Yes, because it's true.

Have you given thought to when I pointed out a single black woman who's profoundly hateful of whites, and cited an example you went off on a rant, though? I found this defensive mechanism to be quite inappropriate for the scenario.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,399
3,947
126
Yes, because it's true.

Have you given thought to when I pointed out a single black woman who's profoundly hateful of whites, and cited an example you went off on a rant, though? I found this defensive mechanism to be quite inappropriate for the scenario.


You brought that up to poke at the idea that there was racism by attacking a source.

Its like Im playing cat and mouse with:

 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,399
3,947
126
blanky you should reread this thread:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37470568&postcount=275

specifically that. Regardless of what that author writes about, in this case (and many others) we can see racism. Just because a bunch of white, indian and chinese tech nerds dont want it to be so black people STILL have to deal with racism. Hell the one black guy who comes on these forums (that I know about) barely posts in here because of the shit some of you guys spew.

bootstraps.txt only gets you so far.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
27,399
3,947
126
So the officer had gone to two suicide calls before this video was taken.

http://www.fox4news.com/story/29288...t-best-of-mckinney-cpl-casebolt-at-pool-party

The first call was a gunshot to the head next to a pool and the second was a suicide attempt. I would say this probably had something to do with his erratic behavior.


So what you are saying is a human can be in duress and make poor choices?

Does this line of defense only apply to police officers or does it also apply to the numerous bodies left on ground by cops?
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
19,946
2,329
126
So what else does this cop have going on he doesnt want internal affairs looking into? I find it hard to believe he would resign over this incident.

It was most likely one of those "I'll give you a choice, resign and keep some of your pension/benefits or get fired". If he resigns the department doesn't have to deal with bullshit union appeals.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
19,946
2,329
126
His resignation doesn't change much for me.

This story as usual completely excuses ridiculous behavior that we would never tolerate in our own children.

No it does not. Any of the people there that broke the law should be held accountable for their actions just like the cop has been held accountable for his actions.

This story is about everyone being held accountable for their own actions, including the police which doesn't happen very often.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
19,946
2,329
126
You know that didn't happen right? He drew when two people rushed him in manner consistent with a pending attack and holstered as soon as they ran away.

Again, the two cops that were in his immediate vicinity grabbed the COP in an attempt to calm him down, resulting in him holstering his weapon, instead of pursuing the supposed threatening subjects. That alone should tell you everything you need to know. It says a whole lot that the other two officers, who had a clear view of the entire situation, thought he was out of line despite LEO almost universally backing each others play.

Even when confronted with overwhelming evidence that you are wrong you still continue this line of argument. Are you really that authoritarian? Cops can't possibly be wrong? A racial thing? Maybe a section 8 thing like a previous poster?
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
47,351
14
61
No it does not. Any of the people there that broke the law should be held accountable for their actions just like the cop has been held accountable for his actions.

This story is about everyone being held accountable for their own actions, including the police which doesn't happen very often.

Was the cop charged with a crime?
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
19,946
2,329
126
Was the cop charged with a crime?

Naw and as much as I am all about charging cops with crimes when they do commit them, I'm not sure that we can call anything he did criminal. Perhaps some low rent assault charge but even that would be really hard to get a conviction on especially due to the laws protecting LEOs.

Personally, I'm satisfied that this guy isn't a cop anymore. Sometimes we gotta take what we can get bud and save most of our energy for more serious encounters like shooting a guy half a dozen times as he slowly jogs away from you.

Just out of curiosity, what crime would you charge him with? I could see some sort of "public endangerment" charge maybe sticking.
 

local

Golden Member
Jun 28, 2011
1,851
515
136
So what you are saying is a human can be in duress and make poor choices?

Does this line of defense only apply to police officers or does it also apply to the numerous bodies left on ground by cops?

It applies to anyone who makes a bad decision due to their mental state, but it doesn't relieve them of responsibility for their actions or damn the person that reacted to those decisions.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
47,351
14
61
Naw and as much as I am all about charging cops with crimes when they do commit them, I'm not sure that we can call anything he did criminal. Perhaps some low rent assault charge but even that would be really hard to get a conviction on especially due to the laws protecting LEOs.

Personally, I'm satisfied that this guy isn't a cop anymore. Sometimes we gotta take what we can get bud and save most of our energy for more serious encounters like shooting a guy half a dozen times as he slowly jogs away from you.

Just out of curiosity, what crime would you charge him with? I could see some sort of "public endangerment" charge maybe sticking.

Dunno. But if he wasn't charged like you or I would be, he was not held accountable.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
Dec 11, 2006
19,946
2,329
126
Dunno. But if he wasn't charged like you or I would be, he was not held accountable.

Agreed but they have a different set of rules regardless if we like it or not. I tend to be a realist and the realist inside of me says that this was the best possible outcome for the public.

If you can make a reasonable case for a crime he should be charged with I'll back your play bud but don't get your hopes up for a conviction (or even charges). The rules and laws that cops are bound by are just way to subjective, imho, to get a guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
 

DrDoug

Diamond Member
Jan 16, 2014
3,580
1,629
136
Just tossing more chum into our shark tank here... :biggrin:

One of the neighbors who complained about the black kids being at the pool is a real winner.

Via the Great Orange Satan.

Sounds like a nice guy to have as a neighbor. As long as that neighborhood is far, far away from mine.
 

Blanky

Platinum Member
Oct 18, 2014
2,457
12
46
You brought that up to poke at the idea that there was racism by attacking a source.
I read this sentence 3-4 times. No idea what it means.
What does this have to do with that britteny woman's loathing of whites? What does it have to do with the cop who supposedly was racist even though nobody can say exactly in which way? How does it change the fact the guy he drew on was readying, or feigning to ready an attack? How does it change the fact you're asking me to answer questions you posed to others? How does it change the fact that I still think you're currently on some sort of medication or alcohol?
No it does not. Any of the people there that broke the law should be held accountable for their actions just like the cop has been held accountable for his actions.

This story is about everyone being held accountable for their own actions, including the police which doesn't happen very often.
Lol of course not. How many of these people acting as hooligans are going to be charged? What about the two guys who rushed the cop who drew on them? The police department is hoping this goes away and will do as much as possible to put it behind them.
Again, the two cops that were in his immediate vicinity grabbed the COP in an attempt to calm him down, resulting in him holstering his weapon, instead of pursuing the supposed threatening subjects. That alone should tell you everything you need to know.
You keep saying this, so I suppose you must believe it, even though that doesn't happen at all. In fact, both of them pursue the guys he drew on immediately, and ONE of the cops grabs him at the same time he grabs the same guy. It looks to me they are confirming each other's presence as being a friendly.
Even when confronted with overwhelming evidence that you are wrong you still continue this line of argument. Are you really that authoritarian? Cops can't possibly be wrong? A racial thing? Maybe a section 8 thing like a previous poster?
Good job, I'm proud of you. It wasn't going to be too long before your inability to convey your point with reason degenerated into calling me a racist. :thumbsup:

If you can provide this mythical video in which the two cops grab the guy to calm him down instead of rushing after the guy he drew on I'd love to see it. Please provide the exact M:S in the original video in which these two guys grab the guy to calm him down.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
47,351
14
61
Agreed but they have a different set of rules regardless if we like it or not. I tend to be a realist and the realist inside of me says that this was the best possible outcome for the public.

If you can make a reasonable case for a crime he should be charged with I'll back your play bud but don't get your hopes up for a conviction (or even charges). The rules and laws that cops are bound by are just way to subjective, imho, to get a guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

I dont get my hopes up. But until police are truly held accountable, things will continue to escalate. How he treated those kids is one thing. That should be an internal thing. But he pulled his gun on unarmed kids who were not a threat. That tells everyone who watches that video that police are ready, willing and able to use deadly force just because they aren't in control.
 

Linux23

Lifer
Apr 9, 2000
11,370
741
126
Some black people are racist. Some white people are racist. Some Asian people are racist. Some Mexican people are racist. Ignorance and hate are not owned by any race.

yep, im black and racist. but not against race. but against behavior on any race. including my own..
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |