Cop abuse incident in Texas

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rudeguy

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yep, im black and racist. but not against race. but against behavior on any race. including my own..

I'm white and I can't stand the dumb shit some white people do. I would love to meet a KKK moron just to knock one out.

I'm so sick of the stupid race baiting, racism, race everything. It's just skin. Who cares what color it is? Just because I'm white doesn't mean I wish bad things on black people just like you being black doesn't mean you're a thug. It just means we have different colored skin.
 

boomerang

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The back story is interesting. (No pun intended)

McKinney Pool Party Organizer, Tatyana Rhodes, Lawyers Up - Likely Trying To Avoid Civil Liability
Tatyana Rhodes and her mother are facing a very real possibility of civil lawsuits by the Home Owners Association within Craig Ranch for an unapproved and unauthorized event that turned into a mob, and has cost the community THOUSANDS.
Despite very specific rules by the HOA regarding use of the pool area, neither Tatyana Rhodes nor her mother, LaShana Burks, sought permission to use the pool or clubhouse area as part of their #Dime Piece Cookout event.

However, Tatyana hired a DJ and promoted the event to include a pool party:

There are numerous social media links reflecting that Tatyana organizes these “parties”, and charges for attendance, as a profit generating business. Her enterprise name is promoted under the auspices of “Twinzzpromotions” and uses the email address twinnzzpromotions@gmail.com:
Dime piece refers to 13, 14, and 15 year old girls that Tatyana feels are a perfect 10. She likes these girls at the parties she puts on because it helps sell tickets to her money making events, "Make It Clap". Clap refers to either the sounds the female butt makes when twerking or the sounds produced when doing it doggy style. This party was to promote Make It Clap 2 which was to be held on June 19th.

So, despite having no permission to use the pool for her promotional party, she advertised the party as a pool party. But hey, when your 'dime girls' show up in bikini's, I would imagine it's a lot easier to sell tickets to your money making venture.

According to both Tatyana and her mother Lashana they were unable to control the growing crowd – who came to their event at the park looking for and expecting a “pool party”.

That’s when things got out of control as the 100+ teens (and many young adults) turned into a mob of partygoers and began jumping the fence to the gated pool area. Residents within the neighborhood found themselves confronting a mob of teens growing ever increasingly hostile and agitated.
We know the rest.
 

HomerJS

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Some black people are racist. Some white people are racist. Some Asian people are racist. Some Mexican people are racist. Ignorance and hate are not owned by any race.

By phrasing this way you're insinuating its equal amongst all these groups.

If you define "owned" as majority stockholder, its not even close.

An anecdote to back it up. Remember the Cheerios commercial with the cute girl in the beginning? Towards the end it was revealed father was black and mother was white. Who do you think were the majority stockholders of the evil racist tweets and FB comments?
 
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Subyman

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The back story is interesting. (No pun intended)

McKinney Pool Party Organizer, Tatyana Rhodes, Lawyers Up - Likely Trying To Avoid Civil Liability
Dime piece refers to 13, 14, and 15 year old girls that Tatyana feels are a perfect 10. She likes these girls at the parties she puts on because it helps sell tickets to her money making events, "Make It Clap". Clap refers to either the sounds the female butt makes when twerking or the sounds produced when doing it doggy style. This party was to promote Make It Clap 2 which was to be held on June 19th.

So, despite having no permission to use the pool for her promotional party, she advertised the party as a pool party. But hey, when your 'dime girls' show up in bikini's, I would imagine it's a lot easier to sell tickets to your money making venture.

We know the rest.

The "Dime Piece" organizers have said they were under the impression that the pool was a part of the reservation. From what I've read, the club house is right next to the pool. Everyone came with bathing suits. There was a miscommunication somewhere along the line. IMO, the organizers did not have enough security to properly control the large number of people their event drew.
 

rudeguy

Lifer
Dec 27, 2001
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By phrasing this way you're insinuating its equal amongst all these groups.

If you define "owned" as majority stockholder, its not even close.

An anecdote to back it up. Remember the Cheerios commercial with the cute girl in the beginning? Towards the end it was revealed father was black and mother was white. Who do you think were the majority stockholders of the evil racist tweets and FB comments?

I have no idea what you are talking about but I don't base my judgement of humanity on Twitter trolls.
 
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The back story is interesting. (No pun intended)

McKinney Pool Party Organizer, Tatyana Rhodes, Lawyers Up - Likely Trying To Avoid Civil Liability
Dime piece refers to 13, 14, and 15 year old girls that Tatyana feels are a perfect 10. She likes these girls at the parties she puts on because it helps sell tickets to her money making events, "Make It Clap". Clap refers to either the sounds the female butt makes when twerking or the sounds produced when doing it doggy style. This party was to promote Make It Clap 2 which was to be held on June 19th.

So, despite having no permission to use the pool for her promotional party, she advertised the party as a pool party. But hey, when your 'dime girls' show up in bikini's, I would imagine it's a lot easier to sell tickets to your money making venture.

We know the rest.

Interesting note however it does not change the fact that this Police Trainer acted like a complete fool and did nothing to help the situation where as the other officers with him seemed to be handling it just fine.
If the mother & daughter did something that deserves a fine or citation or whatever then do it.
 

rudeguy

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Interesting note however it does not change the fact that this Police Trainer acted like a complete fool and did nothing to help the situation where as the other officers with him seemed to be handling it just fine.
If the mother & daughter did something that deserves a fine or citation or whatever then do it.

Its smearing the civilians to make the cops look better. What's his name from Ferguson all over again.

If it were me that had thrown the party, there would be headline about the arsenal of guns and huge stockpile of ammo that I own. If it were you, the headline would be something to do with peanut butter and a goat.

Its just sick to watch how the media and government go about this.
 

HumblePie

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So from all the evidence I've learned of since my last post this is basically everything to break it down.

1) Party organizer goes well beyond what she was suppose to do and invited way too many people or too many people found out about the party and came.

2) Some of the white residents may or may not have said insulting things which may or may not have cause some of the party goers to get a little violent.

3) Because of the problem with the crowd the cops were called.

4) Cops try to disperse the crowd and the crowd gets unruly.

5) One of the cops acts like an asshole pig instead of keeping his cool and pisses the crowd off more

6) The cop went after the girl that may have been part of the violent encounter earlier to which she acted very badly to the asshole cop's authority.

7) Asshole cop, while doing the legal thing, but still asshole in nature forcefully restrains and arrests the girl which prompts some idiots to rush him. Which he responds by pulling out his gun in possible need of protection.


So the whole thing would not have happened had a bunch of out of control young teens and adult not decided to act like idiots.

The cop was an asshole and didn't do anything to keep his cool. While he didn't do anything legally wrong, that is not the same as doing things right either. He should have kept his cool instead of being baited to anger which made him say things that only escalated the situation further.

Does he deserve to lose his job over the incident? Not really, but I do thing he should have some sort of punishment befitting his actions at the scene which caused him to lose control of his anger.

Was this a situation of police brutality or excessive use of force from what I've seen of the evidence? Nope. Nor do I think the actions of the police were racially motivated. Now there may have been some racial slurs said by other residents, but that is something else entirely.

That's my run down of what I've been able to gather. Anything I miss?
 

JSt0rm

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Its a pattern of looking down on black culture. We have a lot of sexualized things in our society and twerking is one of them.
 

soundforbjt

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I heard somewhere the officer had two complaints from 2007, one for racial profiling, and one for excessive use of force. Don't know if true or not, can't remember where i heard it.
 

Blanky

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Its a pattern of looking down on black culture. We have a lot of sexualized things in our society and twerking is one of them.

Since the cops were called because these teens were acting like fools, and you insist on making this an issue of race, are you really saying acting like fools and pretending to attack cops is part of black culture? Would you like to rephrase what you wrote it are you going with that?

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Humble pie, yes you hit the key points.
 

rudeguy

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Dec 27, 2001
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So from all the evidence I've learned of since my last post this is basically everything to break it down.

1) Party organizer goes well beyond what she was suppose to do and invited way too many people or too many people found out about the party and came.

2) Some of the white residents may or may not have said insulting things which may or may not have cause some of the party goers to get a little violent.

3) Because of the problem with the crowd the cops were called.

4) Cops try to disperse the crowd and the crowd gets unruly.

5) One of the cops acts like an asshole pig instead of keeping his cool and pisses the crowd off more

6) The cop went after the girl that may have been part of the violent encounter earlier to which she acted very badly to the asshole cop's authority.

7) Asshole cop, while doing the legal thing, but still asshole in nature forcefully restrains and arrests the girl which prompts some idiots to rush him. Which he responds by pulling out his gun in possible need of protection.


So the whole thing would not have happened had a bunch of out of control young teens and adult not decided to act like idiots.

The cop was an asshole and didn't do anything to keep his cool. While he didn't do anything legally wrong, that is not the same as doing things right either. He should have kept his cool instead of being baited to anger which made him say things that only escalated the situation further.

Does he deserve to lose his job over the incident? Not really, but I do thing he should have some sort of punishment befitting his actions at the scene which caused him to lose control of his anger.

Was this a situation of police brutality or excessive use of force from what I've seen of the evidence? Nope. Nor do I think the actions of the police were racially motivated. Now there may have been some racial slurs said by other residents, but that is something else entirely.

That's my run down of what I've been able to gather. Anything I miss?

He "lost control" and unholstered his weapon and waived it at unarmed people who were not threatening him or a threat at all for that matter.

You don't see the problem with that? You're a gun guy. You know totally unsafe that is. You know that the action of unholstering him weapon by itself is an escalation of force. And this guy didn't even go to low ready, he went to....swing it around ready?

There was no reason to "lose control". People were not trying to hurt him. People were not threatening him. People were trying to get away from a bad situation. His actions were a huge contribution to that bad situation.
 

Blanky

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He "lost control" and unholstered his weapon and waived it at unarmed people who were not threatening him or a threat at all for that matter.

You don't see the problem with that? You're a gun guy. You know totally unsafe that is. You know that the action of unholstering him weapon by itself is an escalation of force. And this guy didn't even go to low ready, he went to....swing it around ready?

There was no reason to "lose control". People were not trying to hurt him. People were not threatening him. People were trying to get away from a bad situation. His actions were a huge contribution to that bad situation.
Untrue. Watch the video. Why exactly do you think he drew his gun when he did and point it toward the person he did?
 

JSt0rm

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Since the cops were called because these teens were acting like fools, and you insist on making this an issue of race, are you really saying acting like fools and pretending to attack cops is part of black culture? Would you like to rephrase what you wrote it are you going with that?

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Humble pie, yes you hit the key points.

Thats pretty much the definition of a strawman.

Kids act like fools. Thats why we have separated them from adults in the eyes of the law. Pretending to attack cops? Thats pretty funny.

I hear all of your dog whistles and understand exactly the person you are. I'm not going to "engage" you on it. Just know that I know you are a simple bitch.
 

rudeguy

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Untrue. Watch the video. Why exactly do you think he drew his gun when he did and point it toward the person he did?

Obviously the next to naked teen age girl he had just slammed on the sidewalk was a threat to his life!
 
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The back story is interesting. (No pun intended)

McKinney Pool Party Organizer, Tatyana Rhodes, Lawyers Up - Likely Trying To Avoid Civil Liability
Dime piece refers to 13, 14, and 15 year old girls that Tatyana feels are a perfect 10. She likes these girls at the parties she puts on because it helps sell tickets to her money making events, "Make It Clap". Clap refers to either the sounds the female butt makes when twerking or the sounds produced when doing it doggy style. This party was to promote Make It Clap 2 which was to be held on June 19th.

So, despite having no permission to use the pool for her promotional party, she advertised the party as a pool party. But hey, when your 'dime girls' show up in bikini's, I would imagine it's a lot easier to sell tickets to your money making venture.

We know the rest.

Interesting...

I heard the part about charging $15 to get in for some reason, but this further details tell you what a greaaaaaaaaaaat parent that was running the show.
 

Darwin333

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Lol of course not. How many of these people acting as hooligans are going to be charged? What about the two guys who rushed the cop who drew on them? The police department is hoping this goes away and will do as much as possible to put it behind them.

Of course they are, if I was them I wouldn't want to charge 3 teenage girls and two guys for instinctively rushing to help their 14 year old friend who was wearing a bikini and was being violently thrown around despite not resisting.


You keep saying this, so I suppose you must believe it, even though that doesn't happen at all. In fact, both of them pursue the guys he drew on immediately, and ONE of the cops grabs him at the same time he grabs the same guy. It looks to me they are confirming each other's presence as being a friendly.

Actually 3 young girls immediately ran up to him at roughly the 4:10 mark and were right in the officers face. If you watch the video from there you can see the two guys you keep bringing up actually backing up before the officer drew his gun. Shortly after you can see the officers grab officer McCrazy and he then holsters his gun.

I have seen a lot of LEO and former LEO come out and say that officer was acting unprofessionally. His own boss has said he acted unprofessionally. Yet you continue to defend his actions, do you claim you know more about the policy he was supposed to follow then his boss does? What makes you such an expert?

Good job, I'm proud of you. It wasn't going to be too long before your inability to convey your point with reason degenerated into calling me a racist. :thumbsup:

Actually, I asked you a question and gave you multiple different choices. Perhaps if you try reading it a few more times and try really hard at comprehending what I wrote you will see that I didn't call you anything.
 

Blanky

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Obviously the next to naked teen age girl he had just slammed on the sidewalk was a threat to his life!

Oh! Is there a separate vid where he draws on the girl? Link?
 
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Blanky

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Of course they are, if I was them I wouldn't want to charge 3 teenage girls and two guys for instinctively rushing to help their 14 year old friend who was wearing a bikini and was being violently thrown around despite not resisting.
So a dozen cops called and no charges sounds reasonable?
Actually 3 young girls immediately ran up to him at roughly the 4:10 mark and were right in the officers face. If you watch the video from there you can see the two guys you keep bringing up actually backing up before the officer drew his gun. Shortly after you can see the officers grab officer McCrazy and he then holsters his gun.
No, I can't, because they don't. I watched the video and don't see them backing away in frame whatsoever. I don't even know which video we're talking about anymore. I go by this one: COPS CRASH POOL PARTY(ORIGINAL)

And once again. One cop grabs him, not two. One != two. One grabs him to let him know he's there before running off to chase the guy he just drew on.
I have seen a lot of LEO and former LEO come out and say that officer was acting unprofessionally. His own boss has said he acted unprofessionally. Yet you continue to defend his actions, do you claim you know more about the policy he was supposed to follow then his boss does? What makes you such an expert?
And I've seen many LEO on another forum who says he acted reasonably.

Most people think he was overall out of control. I'm saying he didn't draw the gun in a vacuum. With silly comments from rudeguy intimating that he drew on a girl in a bikini, we have demonstrable fallacies invading the matter.
 

Blanky

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Thats pretty much the definition of a strawman.

Kids act like fools. Thats why we have separated them from adults in the eyes of the law. Pretending to attack cops? Thats pretty funny.

I hear all of your dog whistles and understand exactly the person you are. I'm not going to "engage" you on it. Just know that I know you are a simple bitch.
So you agree they acted like fools but earlier referred to it as simply black culture. Your words.
 
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