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bradley

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You, sir, are a liar. Everybody knows that 30fps, low detail, 1280x720 is good enough for all of us. And who wants to build their own PC? That's SOOOO laaameee.

Hell, I should just sell my PC and buy a bunch of 360's and PS3's. They did say that the PS3 has supercomputer level power, afterall.


I was merely poking some fun at those who take gaming so seriously. I do believe there is a happy medium between speed and affordability. Meanwhile, the need for more cores and memory for serious computing has almost become a crazy forum concept.

Don't get me wrong, I give plenty of credit to gamers (on-line gamblers, porn addicts and touchpaders etc.) for making computer hardware so inexpensive this past decade.
 

AdamK47

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Nice to see someone who enjoy the chips more than the politics. Hey, if Cyrix was still around, I would probably have something from them too.

I'm not sure what you mean by politics. What politics would that be?
 

bradley

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I'm not sure what you mean by politics. What politics would that be?

The way everything degenerates into Intel vs. AMD for one, instead of the tech itself. How less are willing to agree to disagree. And how lately it seems we only talk at each other instead of to one another.
 

12andy

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A long time ago this forum was filled with enthusiasts. Now perhaps it has enough users who take offense at innocuous comments. Anyway, if you're primarily a gamer, then consoles provide a better investment of both time and money.

Strictly (emphasis on strictly, here) gamer? Perhaps.

I don't think anyone on this forum qualifies as that, however.

The whole time and money thing can be discussed to hell and back, so that's another thread altogether.
 

12andy

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The way everything degenerates into Intel vs. AMD for one, instead of the tech itself. How less are willing to agree to disagree. And how lately it seems we only talk at each other instead of to one another.

Unfortunately, there's much evidence of this throughout all hobby types.

Fanboy syndrome galore...
 

AdamK47

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The way everything degenerates into Intel vs. AMD for one, instead of the tech itself. How less are willing to agree to disagree. And how lately it seems we only talk at each other instead of to one another.

Yeah, there's none of that with consoles.
 

bradley

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Yeah, there's none of that with consoles.

You asked for my definition of politics, not gamers.

One great forum for tech as a prime focus is xtremesystems. Though their odd obsession with superpi does have me coming back here on occassion, if I must give this place some credit.
 
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Olikan

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One great forum for tech as a prime focus is xtremesystems. Though their odd obsession with superpi does have me coming back here on occassion, if I must give this place some credit.

go on the forum of beyond 3d, its hardcore there...
the guys there already have a estimative of the performance of kepler and GCN.
 

Blastman

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I'm referring to a situation where the 2 cores that the game is using are not at full load but gpu seems to be cpu bottlenecked.

I understand a game can only use x number of threads so some cores will sit idle. But if the non-idle cores are only at ~70% load, shouldn't I see full gpu usage?
Same thing can happen on a 2 core 2 thread scenario. 1 thread/core might be heavily loaded and the other lightly loaded, and since the workload on the heavily loaded thread/core cannot be moved to the other core, that 1 thread will limit frame rates. You end up CPU limited by that 1 thread/core even though 1 core is mostly idle.
 

micrometers

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just ignore this guy. he has no clue what he is talking about and probably does not even have a pc good enough for modern games.


this is the same guy that claims even a 1.0ghz Athlon can run many modern games and that cpus have not mattered since the Pentium dual core.

Man, I was around when the Nvidia TNT2 was revolutionizing gaming

These guys agree with me

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/247598-28-bottleneck-games'

no one's really bothered to do a test since modern CPU's are so cheap (I remember when a pentium pro 200 was like a thousand bucks, just for the CPU), but consider that most games IMO haven't really improved much in terms of AI or complexity (of course they've improved greatly in graphical effects) since the half life 2 days, and half life 2 ran like a champ on my AMD XP 1800+
 

Obsoleet

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So I always thought my old i7 860 @ 2.8GHz was good enough for all games, but this apparently isn't the case. My sig chip has actually given me some very significant improvements. I doubt the games are using more cores, but I've got a 1.2GHz frequency advantage now & more memory bandwidth...games now feel "smoother".

Is this expected, or am I just seeing it in my head?

It's in your head. Most CPUs are overkill today. Your perceived speed increase was probably due to a format on those ancient HDDs you have in your sig.
 
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