CPU temps for AMD 2400+

kablamo1

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Hello,

I'm currently running a T-Bred 2400+ and getting temps around 55C, is this high? I'm using a ThermalTake Vulcano 9. Just wondering what temps others are running at. Thanks.
 

BlueWeasel

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If that's the under load temp, then your OK. Never used a Volcano9, but that seems a little high for that HSF combo. Maybe the K7S5A you have shown in your Rigs reads the temp. a little high?
 

NYHoustonman

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People here are likely to tell you that 50C+ is too high, but, for the average person, it is not. What are your system (motherboard) temps and room temps like? And is that 55C at idle or after you played a game, or what?
 

chocoruacal

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Originally posted by: policy11
I have a 2400 and I get 37 idle, 41 under load, and case temp is around 30.

Ditto that...my 2400@2.1ghz@1.65v does 35-45* load between 18cfm and 30cfms for the fan. I wouldn't sweat your temps though (haha)....different mobos will report them differently!
 
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I've got a 1700+ running at 2.08Ghz (2600+ speed) and my idle temperature is aroun 36 degrees, my full throttle "I've been playing UT2K3 for 4 hours" temperature is about 39-40. Case temperature averages the low 30's.

Jason
 

WarCon

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Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
I've got a 1700+ running at 2.08Ghz (2600+ speed) and my idle temperature is aroun 36 degrees, my full throttle "I've been playing UT2K3 for 4 hours" temperature is about 39-40. Case temperature averages the low 30's.

Jason

This is funny, I just built a computer for a friend named Jason that is identical to the specs you gave, even the temps. Its a small world....
 

eBauer

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I had a 2400+ and a Volcano9 on an 8k3a+. It ran 35-41C, but when I updated to the latest BIOS (at the time), the temperature jumped up to 52-55C interestingly enough.
 

kablamo1

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Thanks all, I think I won't worry about it. My M/B temp is around 40C and room temp around 75F.
Maybe the temps aren't accurate.
 

NYHoustonman

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Well, if you ever think about it again, it sounds like your case COULD use some extra cooling, maybe an extra fan somewhere.
 

Jeff7181

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Basically what you should look for is your case temp to be no more than 20 degrees C over ambient room temp, and your CPU temp to be no more than 20 degrees C over case temp.
55C is fine for the processor... it's upper limit is 85C I believe. Although if it hits 70, and you let it go higher, well, that's your fault =)
 

Jeff7181

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It doesn't really matter which software you use... you shouldn't be worried about whether your heatsink/fan is adequate because if you bought an OEM CPU, you should have bought an approved heatsink/fan. If your CPU is retail, you shouldn't be overclocking cause that will void your warranty, and the heatsink/fan that comes with it isn't meant to cool an overclocked CPU.
The process for checking your temps is fairly simple... as soon as you install everything and turn the computer on, immediately enter the BIOS and go to the hardware monitoring section and keep an eye on the CPU temp. If it jumps up to 60 degree C or higher, something's wrong, shut it off and make sure the heatsink is mounted properly. If it stays reasonable, then go ahead and boot Windows... run a few CPU intensive programs to get the temps up and check to make sure temps are reasonable. Now you have a baseline. Overclock to whatever you want, check stability and temps along the way to make sure things aren't getting out of hand.

The reason one spec doesn't apply to everyone is because all motherboards are different... they take temperature readings from different areas of the motherboard. General rule of thumb, if you touch the base of your heatsink with the computer on, and it's hot enough so it's uncomfortable to leave your finger on it, it's too warm and you should look into better cooling, or reduce your overclock.
 

imported_Phil

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Jeff7181: What you said is worrying me slightly!

I have a brand-new Advent computer (AMD 3000+) with a CoolerMaster X-Dream (variable speed fan) on top of it. No other mods. Anyway, the CPU temperature reported by MBM5 is 65-68C all the time, but the heatsink is cool to the touch. Strangely enough, at work we've got a 2600+ machine with the same motherboard, using various combinations of HSF's (I work in a PC store hehe), the lowest I've seen on that is 55C.

Makes me wonder if MBM5 is actually reading the internal CPU diode temperature and therefore it's being reported as a lot higher than anyone else's...

No instability so far though.

Any thoughts?

Dopefiend
 

Jeff7181

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What happens if you crank that variable speed fan up all the way? Other than noise

In my opinion, that's too hot for that processor... I have mine running faster than an XP3000, with more voltage, and I'm not worried about temps at all. How's your case temp? You moving enough air through the case?

Try the method of testing that I mentioned... just turn the computer off overnight, and in the morning, power it on and immediately enter the BIOS, and watch the temps for 5 minutes or so. If it jumps right up to 68 right away, I'd check your heatsink to make sure it's mounted properly (making proper contact with the core)... As stupid as it may sound, some people put the heatsink on backwards... and it looks fine when it's just resting on the little pads on the CPU's substrate, but when you clamp it down, those pads flatten out and the heatsink makes contact with the core. If you have it on backwards, the lip on the heatsink will come in contact with the lip on the ZIF socket and prevent proper contact with the core.

What type of thermal interface are you using? Arctic Silver? The phase change material (pad) that comes on some heatsinks? Immitation Arctic Silver?
 

CraigRT

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the temp is a tad high, but nothing unsafe... the board is probably reading high, or you live in the bahamas...
 

imported_Phil

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Well, I used Hibernation last night, just brought it back up and temperature started at 55C, it's risen to 58C as I'm typing this. Case temp is holding pretty steady at about 29C.

If I crank the fan right up it makes one hell of a racket and is currently holding the CPU temp at 58C.

As for mounting, I had to take the assembly apart because the retaining clip hits my PSU (I have a cramped case), so I took it to bits and turned the clip round. What I might try today is remounting the old HSF (it was noisier than this one, which is why I changed it) and seeing what kinda temps I get then. One thing I should mention is that I've only got an exhaust fan on the back, secondary to the PSU fan. This case can't have a front fan mounted as there's no mounting space or airflow holes for the fan to pull air through. Net result, my two Maxtor 7200rpm drives are running *hot*. Sigh.

Lastly, thermal compound- Arctic Silver.
I've installed so many processors now that it's as important as attaching the fan power!

Dopefiend
 

imported_Phil

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Right, think I've solved the problem.

When I turned the retention clip on the X-Dream around, the pressure point moved about 1cm backwards- i.e. the heatsink wasn't making full contact with the core. I found this out by pushing hard on the heatsink while running and watching the temperature drop 8C instantly. Sigh.

I then tried to use the clip from the stock HSF assembly, but that was just a little bit too tight and it got to the point where I thought I'd break the core if I gave it any more pressure.
So, to cut a long story short, I'm using the stock assembly again, temp is riding at about 55-56C which is much better. I've also moved my two hard disks one space apart to give them some more breathing room, should help to lower the temps inside a bit more too.

Wonderful Advent, designing a case where you've got about an inch of space between the HSF and PSU....

Dopefiend
 

Jeff7181

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Just so ya know... hibernation isn't the same as off =) I meant turn it off, so the temps go down to room temp and you can watch to see how quickly it rises. But anyway, since you found the problem, now you can fix it =) (Get a new case, a cramped case is no place for 2 hot hard drives)
 
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