CPU Upgrade

[Jacky60]

Wow, getting a bit personal in your attack there. Yes, Intel is faster, but for a price, and certainly NOT the "same money" as you say. When you are talking nearly double the price ($110 more for the CPU, and an average of $50 more for an equivalent mobo) for "40% more speed" thats not always a good choice. Especially if the cheaper solution will run everything the faster one will (as of today).

Because despite what you say, a properly clocked quad Phenom II will run every game that is out today. It may only get 70fps to the Intel's 100fps, but there is very little difference in gameplay once you go over 60. Especially if you run vsync to prevent tearing.

But hey, thanks for calling everybody brainless. Especially those that are trying to stay within a limited budget that Intel clearly falls outside of.

The OP talked of getting an Asus sabretooth mobo, it costs £177 in the UK and combined with a thuban CPU for £135 in the UK it works out the Same price as 2500K and mobo.

That is the essence of my reasoning. However it seems BF3 DOES take advantage of 6 core Thuban and that is a rational reason for going with it-more games will probably use those extra cores in future. The reason for my ire is people recommending what they have and suggesting there is anything sensible about spending £177 on a mobo for a grossly inferior cpu. But your dive bombing is fair if 6 core's are supported in future games then it could be the way to go WITHOUT the sabretooth 990. I say again in the UK the prices between these systems are about the same. A phenom 2 falls flat on its face in the games I mentioned and can't produce acceptable frame rates never mind 70fps. I'm not talking about console ports I'm referring to PC games as in games you need a PC to run cos a console doesn't have the power and there will be many more of those coming along if the current generation of consoles are here for another few years.
Also try reading what I linked to as a gamer who tried both and owns a phenom 2 said there was a big difference in his experience. That's what I mean by brainless-not looking at the evidence, just having an opinion.

 

[sangyup81]

The smart money is in getting Intel (like Core i3-2100 or even Pentium G620/G620T) if you do everything stock. If you tweak and have money for the best then 2500K with a P or Z chip set motherboard all the way!

ONLY if you tweak to save money and are ok with Core2Duo/Core2Quad or at best Clarkdale level performance, AMD can serve you well. And I agree with the above poster. No ASUS Sabertooth for AMD builds

 

[john3850]

Many people say wait for bd or something better what ever.
After a lunch of a new cpu there a always problems.
When x58 came out there problems with the early ddr3,then it took mb companies took months to a year to get out good boards.
Next the 1156 came which were slow then the 1155 recall came out and at the end intel got it act together it just takes time.
Beware of buying the first release and being beta tester for companies.
Wait six months after a release and get the best and higher oc.

The best intel buy in years is the 2500k.
This is also the lowest price for a intel mb I have ever been.
Did I realy need a 2500k no but do to the low cost I didnt pass it up.
The cheapest pc are new pentium sb cores no OC no HT bare min oem build junk.

 

[sid21]

look guys i agree that i5 2500k will beat any amd processor currently available in terms of everything....
but if you'll remember my budget is around 28-29,000INR...
if i choose intel sandybridge,the 2500k with an equivalent motherbaord will cost me around 20,000/- or more..
but the rest of the components are nt cheap,like SMPS of 650W,Cooler master elite 430,4 gb ddr3 ram,DVD Writer,and the 500gb hard disk...
do u think this will come in rest of the money like say 9000????
and i am not going to upgrade my cpu again for a long time....

 

[Jacky60]

look guys i agree that i5 2500k will beat any amd processor currently available in terms of everything....
but if you'll remember my budget is around 28-29,000INR...
if i choose intel sandybridge,the 2500k with an equivalent motherbaord will cost me around 20,000/- or more..
but the rest of the components are nt cheap,like SMPS of 650W,Cooler master elite 430,4 gb ddr3 ram,DVD Writer,and the 500gb hard disk...
do u think this will come in rest of the money like say 9000????
and i am not going to upgrade my cpu again for a long time....

Wait until AMD bulldozer launch in Sept then decide BUT buying a cpu and Mobo that perform on a par with Intels offering from 2/3 years ago is not a good idea. I'd get decent core components i.e.psu, cpu, mobo, ram and try and add other components as you go. Either way prices should fall a bit soon and a 6 core AMD cpu is looking increasingly like it will cut it in future so that might be worth a good look at.
2500K is the best value available in years and I mean value-performance over price. It will be competitive for a long time but PC games will soon all be taking advantages of 6 or more cores so bear that in mind. I don't know how rupee exchange rate works but I'd only go AMD if getting 6 cores or more right now.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2182821

Look at this link for a 2500K system then remove what you can until within budget.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4556/back-to-school-technology-buyers-guide/2

 

[sid21]

Wait until AMD bulldozer launch in Sept then decide BUT buying a cpu and Mobo that perform on a par with Intels offering from 2/3 years ago is not a good idea. I'd get decent core components i.e.psu, cpu, mobo, ram and try and add other components as you go. Either way prices should fall a bit soon and a 6 core AMD cpu is looking increasingly like it will cut it in future so that might be worth a good look at.
2500K is the best value available in years and I mean value-performance over price. It will be competitive for a long time but PC games will soon all be taking advantages of 6 or more cores so bear that in mind. I don't know how rupee exchange rate works but I'd only go AMD if getting 6 cores or more right now.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2182821

Look at this link for a 2500K system then remove what you can until within budget.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4556/back-to-school-technology-buyers-guide/2

i am not understanding what to do although i am going to wait till October...
so lets see what new things come up or rather prices of the current products go down because of the bulldozer..
just hoping for the best

 

[sid21]

Hey i go for i5 2500k oc it to (4.5ghz at 1.24vcore) and if i crossfire ati radeon 5770's,
and if i use two Sata HDD 500gb,
will the corsair vx550W be enough for it...
remember i am a gamer...
and i wont keep my system on for 24/7....

 

[Stuka87]

550W should be enough for that setup. 5770's are not particularly power hungry. A quick calculation puts you at about 400W total.

 

[sid21]

550W should be enough for that setup. 5770's are not particularly power hungry. A quick calculation puts you at about 400W total.

hey how about CM gs 650w is it good enough(consider all the config's i mentioned) or i should stick to corsair...

 

[sm625]

Many peple say wait for bd or something better what ever.
After a launch of a new socket there a always problems.
When x58 came out there problems with the early ddr3,then it took mb companies took months to a year to get out good boards.
Next the 1156 came which were slow then the 1155 recall came out and at the end intel got it act together it just takes time.
Beware I buying the first release and being beta tester for companies.
Wait six months after a release and get the best and higher oc.

fixt. BD is not bringing with it a new socket. The socket has been around for a while now and if there are problems with it we'd know it by now.

ps I fixt your minor spelling error too. Unless you really meant you wanted to lunch on a new cpu.

 

[bryanW1995]

am3+ is only a slight change over am3, but it is still technically a new socket.

 

[john3850]

The BD is amd first architecture change since the K8 days and amd will do everything they can to see it succeed.
AMD went through 3 sockets in under 2 yrs after the release of there best cpu in 2004.
I hope am3+ works good with the bd but judging at amds past it will be soon be replaced with something better yet.

 

[sid21]

The BD is amd first architecture change since the K8 days and amd will do everything they can to see it succeed.
AMD went through 3 sockets in under 2 yrs after the release of there best cpu in 2004.
I hope am3+ works good with the bd but judging at amds past it will be soon be replaced with something better yet.

the BD is going to be relaesed on september 19th....
and form what i heard the highest range of those processor are priced at 300$(3.9ghz,8 cores)....
so will it effect the current prices of other products lets say,pheniom II x6 1100t and x4 975 BE...
or lets say i5 2500k...???
what do you'll think???

 

[sid21]

hey guys it seems that i can arrange 9000 more for my GPU so please suggest me a good one...
and i only prefer ati...
than x...

 

[VirtualLarry]

Hd6870?

 

[Jacky60]

6870 is good, try and get a 6950 2gb if you possibly can afford it.

 

[sid21]

6870 is good, try and get a 6950 2gb if you possibly can afford it.

please mention the current prices of both 6870 and 6950 because its difficult to find it online.. :\
and are these cards 256 bit??
and wht abt the performances???

 

[sid21]

These are the cards that are available nearby around or less than 9000=(200$) which one should i go for???
SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB

MSI R6790-2PM2D1GD5

Sapphire HD 6790 1GB GDDR5 Card

SAPPHIRE HD 6770 1GB GDDR5

MSI R6790-2PM2D1GD5

XFX Radeon HD6790 Price

 

[bigpimpatl]

6850 is the best out of those, but tough choice. $200 here could you get a 6950.

 

[sid21]

6850 is the best out of those, but tough choice. $200 here could you get a 6950.

is 6850 powerful enough???
and ya there u can get a better one at the same price but here in india there are extra charges for silly things which makes the same product for 250$...

power supply confusion,how much will it need?

,does it require two pciex power connectors???
and does the vendor make any difference to the performance??
like my friends say xfx is the best one...
what about others like msi,sapphire,asus???

 

[RussianSensation]

u'l just tell me is it d best within my budget just abt the cpu???
performance wise....?

1. There are plenty of Intel motherboards that are great on a budget. You don't need to buy the Sabertooth. It's most marketing and features you are paying for in that board.

2. Even Core i5 750/760 CPUs are better than what you are buying. Simply said, there isn't a single AMD cpu worth buying below $130 right now. So change your platform to Intel if you want honest advice.

If you want to buy an AMD based system, you should definitely wait 1 more month and get BD over Phenom II.

 

[Jacky60]

I would definitely go Intel for the cpu unless Bulldozer performs some magic trick and is competitive. 2500K should last you 4 years which means the little bit extra spent will be saved many times over by not having to upgrade.

 

[sid21]

I would definitely go Intel for the cpu unless Bulldozer performs some magic trick and is competitive. 2500K should last you 4 years which means the little bit extra spent will be saved many times over by not having to upgrade.

wow 4 years
i am going for 2500k no matter what happens just waiting for December...