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nwo

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Its a unlocked 290. Think its bios issue. Can live with results on 290 bios for now. Might try diff 290x bios and see if helps. Maybe intensity too low? Set on i17 so can at least surf web at same time.

Maybe your intensity is too high? My 7870s prefer 17-18 while my 7970 runs best @ 13.... and increasing intensity on my 7970 actually gives me lower hashrates.
 

phillyboy

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Any specific Catalyst version I should be using? I have 2x 7970s and I only get 580 kh/s on each one =/. Or are MSI cards duds like the XFX ones are?

I've tried what feels like a hundred different variations on mem/gpu speeds...currently at 1100 / 1500 but I've got all the way down to 1000 gpu speed in 5 MHz increments. Intensity is 13 on both, threads are set to 8192.
 

KentState

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Any specific Catalyst version I should be using? I have 2x 7970s and I only get 580 kh/s on each one =/. Or are MSI cards duds like the XFX ones are?

I've tried what feels like a hundred different variations on mem/gpu speeds...currently at 1100 / 1500 but I've got all the way down to 1000 gpu speed in 5 MHz increments. Intensity is 13 on both, threads are set to 8192.

Are the threads at 8192 what cgminer recommended? Currently I use and let the miner set the TC and W automatically.:

-I 13,13 --gpu-memclock 1650,1650 --gpu-engine 970,970

Follow the tutorial on the LTC site to get started. They recommend raising memory speeds until it's no longer stable, then using the recommended threads and workers in the .bin file name. From there, adjust core speed to find the best spot, usually around .57 to .6 of the memory speed.
 

Kenmitch

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Maybe your intensity is too high? My 7870s prefer 17-18 while my 7970 runs best @ 13.... and increasing intensity on my 7970 actually gives me lower hashrates.

I'll have to play around with it and see tonight when home from work.
 

nwo

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Is it worth getting two R9 290x to run 24/7 for LTC right now?

At current card prices and LTC price/difficulty, it would take you nearly 3 months to break even assuming things stay the same. However, with the difficulty increasing every couple of days, card prices increasing, and LTC prices fluctuating around the $30 mark... it might take you a while just to break even if LTC prices remain the same.

If you are in it for the long haul and do not plan to sell LTC until they hit at least $100, then yes, it would still be very profitable to start now regardless of which card(s) you pick.
 

Torn Mind

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Is a R9 270X decent value for mining if I spend $200 on one? I already have a 7850 pulling a little over 305 kH/s.
 

blastingcap

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If 2014 is anything like 2013 or any other previous year, it's actually more profitable to buy coins directly. It only makes sense to buy cards to mine with if you were going to buy them anyway, for gaming or whatever. The returns from mining are like 10-20 times worse than from buying coins directly.
 

nwo

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Is a R9 270X decent value for mining if I spend $200 on one? I already have a 7850 pulling a little over 305 kH/s.

Not really because you can get a 7850 for half the price of a 270x if you shop around. I just picked up a 7850 yesterday for less than $90.

270x gets anywhere from 350-400kH/s which is roughly on par with a 7870 which can still be bought for less than $150. 270x is not a good value for mining at the $200 price point. There are cheaper alternatives that will give you slightly lower hash rates.
 

SithSolo1

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Well I'm finally up and mining on my R9 290, moved everything in my Antec 300 to a friend's old Mozart TX.

Running this config I'm getting right around 800kH/s. I know its low but I assume thats because I'm running 17 for the intensity so I can still browse the net. Any other glaring issues?

--thread-concurrency 32765 --lookup-gap 0 --gpu-engine 950 --gpu-memclock 1250 --gpu-powertune 20 -w 256 -I 17 -g 1
 

nwo

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Well I'm finally up and mining on my R9 290, moved everything in my Antec 300 to a friend's old Mozart TX.

Running this config I'm getting right around 800kH/s. I know its low but I assume thats because I'm running 17 for the intensity so I can still browse the net. Any other glaring issues?

--thread-concurrency 32765 --lookup-gap 0 --gpu-engine 950 --gpu-memclock 1250 --gpu-powertune 20 -w 256 -I 17 -g 1

800 is not bad considering you haven't overclocked the hell out of it.

I would try some settings listed here such as g2 and messing around with the concurrency: https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison

You can also ask around on LTC forums but I think 800 for a 290 at those clock speeds is pretty decent.

If you really want to push for 900+ I would recommend unlocking it to a 290x.
 
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800 is spot on for intensity 17, R290 can do 900 kHa/s if you give it powertune +50, run at 1ghz core clock and set intensity to 19/20, but it becomes intolerably noisy.
 

geokilla

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800 is not bad considering you haven't overclocked the hell out of it.

I would try some settings listed here such as g2 and messing around with the concurrency: https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison

You can also ask around on LTC forums but I think 800 for a 290 at those clock speeds is pretty decent.

If you really want to push for 900+ I would recommend unlocking it to a 290x.
I don't understand how people with a XFX 7950 TDKC in that chart got 700 Kh/s with or without the same config. I get only 520 or so with intensity at 19 and slower clocks. The slightly lower clocks shouldn't have that big of an influence should it?

Btw I run it at 16 when the computer isn't idling, hence the following.

Code:
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
\Downloads\Litecoin\cgminer-3.7.2-windows\cgminer.exe --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://world.wemineltc.com:3335 -u -p -I 16 --thread-concurrency 24000 --lookup-gap 2 -g 1 -w 256
 
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7950 need to be OC to ~1.1ghz reach 600 kHa/s, 650 is pushing it, 700?? Don't believe it.

Vram also need to be overclocked, 1350 to 1550 range for best results but it depends on your card.
 

geokilla

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7950 need to be OC to ~1.1ghz reach 600 kHa/s, 650 is pushing it, 700?? Don't believe it.

Vram also need to be overclocked, 1350 to 1550 range for best results but it depends on your card.
That's not the 0.6:1 ratio which is needed though isn't it?
 

nwo

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I don't understand how people with a XFX 7950 TDKC in that chart got 700 Kh/s with or without the same config. I get only 520 or so with intensity at 19 and slower clocks. The slightly lower clocks shouldn't have that big of an influence should it?

Btw I run it at 16 when the computer isn't idling, hence the following.

Code:
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
\Downloads\Litecoin\cgminer-3.7.2-windows\cgminer.exe --scrypt -o stratum+tcp://world.wemineltc.com:3335 -u -p -I 16 --thread-concurrency 24000 --lookup-gap 2 -g 1 -w 256

I just use the numbers in that chart as ideas for experimentation. I have also tried the exact same settings on my 7870 XFX Double D and I got nowhere near the results listed in the chart.
 

blastingcap

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It's generally foolish to try to achieve max hash, you usually wind up using a TON more watts in the process to gain a few percent more hash. Getting 500+ from a 7950 is fine. 600+ from a 7970 is fine. 800+ from a 290 is fine. Mining is the single most stressful thing you can do to a card outside of Furmark. Overvolting/clocking to scrape a few more hash together just jacks up your wattage and temps, which reduces the expected lifespan of your card and also punishes your power supply. All that waste heat also wears your other components down a little faster as well. Not to mention the extra noise from faster-spinning fans. All for less than 10% more hash.
 
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nwo

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It's generally foolish to try to achieve max hash, you usually wind up using a TON more watts in the process to gain a few percent more hash.

But if you are gaining 100+ kH/s per card, it is worth it. Maybe not in the long run and it may not be the best to keep them that way (especially in the summer), but you better try to hoard as many coins as you can while the difficulty is low.

Mining is the single most stressful thing you can do to a card outside of maybe Furmark; overvolting/clocking to scrape a few more hash together just jacks up your wattage and temps, which reduces the expected lifespan of your card and also punishes your power supply. All that waste heat also wears your other components down a little faster as well. Not to mention the extra noise from faster-spinning fans.

That's what the warranty is for. If anything, I would much rather have my components die on my prematurely while they are still under warranty than have them fail once warranty expires.
 

blastingcap

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But if you are gaining 100+ kH/s per card, it is worth it. Maybe not in the long run and it may not be the best to keep them that way (especially in the summer), but you better try to hoard as many coins as you can while the difficulty is low.

That's what the warranty is for. If anything, I would much rather have my components die on my prematurely while they are still under warranty than have them fail once warranty expires.

If you're in that much of a rush, just buy the coins directly.

Ok so you get to burn out a card and lose weeks of mining time on it, pay for shipping, then get back a refurb, all for gaining a tiny bit more hash? This is assuming they don't play games with your RMA and hold it up for months or something. Forget it. I learned my lesson when my 7970's front fan busted. Not worth it to me. You can do whatever you want, and like I said, if you're in that much of a rush, buy the coins directly, that's way faster than mining it and has historically generated 10-20 times the returns of mining.
 

nwo

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If you're in that much of a rush, just buy the coins directly.

Ok so you get to burn out a card and lose weeks of mining time on it, pay for shipping, then get back a refurb, all for gaining a tiny bit more hash? This is assuming they don't play games with your RMA and hold it up for months or something. Forget it. I learned my lesson when my 7970's front fan busted. Not worth it to me. You can do whatever you want, and like I said, if you're in that much of a rush, buy the coins directly, that's way faster than mining it and has historically generated 10-20 times the returns of mining.

I'm not in a rush, I'm just saying that it would make sense to make the most out of your hashrate now because the difficulty is spiking every couple of days.

Depending on when you fry your card, you are most likely going to get an upgrade. Although I do agree that they could hold onto my card for a while for testing/repair purposes.

But, if my 7970 goes bust, I could be getting a 280x, 290, or 290x. To me, that alone is worth the small shipping expense and the wait.

I'm a hardware junkie, so I am not just in it for the $$$. It's a hobby, and I will more than likely profit from it and have the hardware pay for itself in a couple of months :awe:
 
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Torn Mind

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My SAPPHIRE 100355L is now doing 350 kH/s using LTCrabbit's customized cgminer. Clocks are 1010 Mhz and 1340Mhz. Seems to like scaling with core Mhz more than mem clocks.

-w 256 -g 1 --thread-concurrency 16000 --intensity 18

Seems about right.
 

BallaTheFeared

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Ask Balla; 700?? Don't believe it.




At 1100/1700 I could do 650 kh/s.

I preferred 800/1500 because it was 500 kh/s each, so 1000kh/s @ 333 watts, which gave me decent kh/w.

Though with payout as it was, even 1500 kh/s @ 700w was giving more cash per week/month/year.
 
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geokilla

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It's generally foolish to try to achieve max hash, you usually wind up using a TON more watts in the process to gain a few percent more hash. Getting 500+ from a 7950 is fine. 600+ from a 7970 is fine. 800+ from a 290 is fine. Mining is the single most stressful thing you can do to a card outside of Furmark. Overvolting/clocking to scrape a few more hash together just jacks up your wattage and temps, which reduces the expected lifespan of your card and also punishes your power supply. All that waste heat also wears your other components down a little faster as well. Not to mention the extra noise from faster-spinning fans. All for less than 10% more hash.

Well compared to when I was running Folding@Home, this is nothing I think. For the longest time, my VDCC was at 1.25V... So stupid why they set it so high. And I just plan on getting the most hash I can get without overclocking the core significantly.

At 1100/1700 I could do 650 kh/s.

I preferred 800/1500 because it was 500 kh/s each, so 1000kh/s @ 333 watts, which gave me decent kh/w.

Though with payout as it was, even 1500 kh/s @ 700w was giving more cash per week/month/year.

So now you're running 800/1500 right? That's some crazy power draw though. I definitely can't sustain that. Hydro here in Toronto is stupid expensive and it doesn't even include the whole bunch of delivery charge which is easily $50/month I think. Your hydro rates must be pretty cheap if having your computer pull 700W still results in a profit from mining Litecoins. If I run this 24/7, I think our electricity will would easily be over $300 or $350.

I'll keep my VDCC @ 1V and just do a modest overclock to like 1000/1400 at most. Most of my hash increase seems to be coming from an increase in memory speed.
 
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