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KlokWyze

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Impossible to guess what's going to get pumped and dumped at this point. I threw my hands up and put everything in BTC. Considering selling my holdings and cashing out to USD before Jan 31st. Buy back in after it drops.... IF it drops.

My miners have been stable at the higher hashrates thanks to the optimized BIOS's from TheStilt. Sorry to hear the issues you guys are having with the older cards. TBH I wouldn't think that the older cards are even worth it to mine with, though I am mining with a 7790.

Looks like Coinye is actually listed on a new exchange!

http://crycurex.com/

Some other devs are attempting to revive it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=396068.0

I'm just going to cash mine out if possible and delete. TBH this coin doesn't deserve to succeed due to the greedy and cowardly devs.
 

Torn Mind

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I went down to the computer shops last night and only found one shop with a 1x to 16x cable, but the guy strongly recommended me not to hook up my 7970 this way. Are the risks that high or is he being over cautious? I was just going to leave the 7970 'hanging' off the side of the case. No pets or kids in the house so not much chance of the PC being bumped accidentally.

If I can't find a 16x-to-16x cable, I've read that for mining the 1x PCIe slot will work just fine?
You might need a powered x1 to x16 riser to power a 7970. Powered risers will have a molex adapter on it.

EDIT

http://www.reddit.com/r/litecoinmining/comments/1rvu3r/tip_dont_use_unpowered_riser_cables/

http://www.gobitgo.com/articles/1001/How-To-Correctly-Use-and-Install-PCI-E-Riser-Cables/
 
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nwo

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My miners have been stable at the higher hashrates thanks to the optimized BIOS's from TheStilt. Sorry to hear the issues you guys are having with the older cards. TBH I wouldn't think that the older cards are even worth it to mine with, though I am mining with a 7790.

Depends on your power costs really. I'd say the only older cards that are still worth mining on are 5870 & 6970. 6950 and 5850 if you have the free slots and cards available, but they certainly would not be my top 10 picks.

7790 is decent, 230-250kH/s at less than 100W power consumption is decent efficiency. You can probably undervolt it to use about 70W or less since you get the best hashrates when you underclock the GPU and VRAM.
 

KlokWyze

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Depends on your power costs really. I'd say the only older cards that are still worth mining on are 5870 & 6970. 6950 and 5850 if you have the free slots and cards available, but they certainly would not be my top 10 picks.

7790 is decent, 230-250kH/s at less than 100W power consumption is decent efficiency. You can probably undervolt it to use about 70W or less since you get the best hashrates when you underclock the GPU and VRAM.

I should probably tweak it. It's the video card I chose for a sexy little ITX case. Not many would fit. It's an MSI 7790. The short one, but I STILL had to take my Dremel saw to the fan shroud to get it to fit. I remember it being a bitch to get to even mine, but then again, I get annoyed/stressed-out with even menial tasks.

It's pulling ~215kH. No clue what wattage the machine is pulling. I'm guessing like 150-175 watts, but I never measured what it was at the wall. If i decide to tweak it, I'll head your advice. Thanks.
 

slashbinslashbash

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I should probably tweak it. It's the video card I chose for a sexy little ITX case. Not many would fit. It's an MSI 7790. The short one, but I STILL had to take my Dremel saw to the fan shroud to get it to fit. I remember it being a bitch to get to even mine, but then again, I get annoyed/stressed-out with even menial tasks.

It's pulling ~215kH. No clue what wattage the machine is pulling. I'm guessing like 150-175 watts, but I never measured what it was at the wall. If i decide to tweak it, I'll head your advice. Thanks.

Underclock the GPU to around 850, it should boost you up to the 240 range.
 

wand3r3r

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I went down to the computer shops last night and only found one shop with a 1x to 16x cable, but the guy strongly recommended me not to hook up my 7970 this way. Are the risks that high or is he being over cautious? I was just going to leave the 7970 'hanging' off the side of the case. No pets or kids in the house so not much chance of the PC being bumped accidentally.

If I can't find a 16x-to-16x cable, I've read that for mining the 1x PCIe slot will work just fine?

Should work fine, at least if it has a moles power cable too.

My 16x slot works with a 1x to 16x adapter to both a 7950 and 290x.

They probably don't recommend it since you are losing to 16x speed which would matter in gaming but not in mining.
 

taltamir

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If you have an SSD for an OS drive, then it is quite painful to have multiple coin wallets eating it all up.
Plus it makes it difficult to automatically backup. Or you might just want to create a mobile wallet.
Unfortunately data directory selection is not handled properly with a config file, instead it is a command line prompt to change it, without a command line it goes to default (a silly location).

My solution is to create a bat file in the same directory as the exe for litecoin/bitcoin/dogecoin/etc wallet software
You need to disable the "run at startup" option in the client itself, as that option creates a shortcut at the startup dir for running the client with the default data directory. Trying to change that shortcut will be futile as it will reset to the default (IIRC whenever you look at options menu)

bat file code:
Code:
IF NOT EXIST .\DATA mkdir DATA
start bitcoin-qt.exe -min -datadir=.\DATA
exit

As you can see, it uses a relative subdirectory called DATA and located inside the client's folder.
It creates that directory if it doesn't exist because otherwise the client will error out saying the directory is missing and self terminate (instead of creating the directory)

Then you just need to put a shortcut to that bat file in the startup directory and set that shortcut to run minimized to avoid an unsightly command prompt coming up every time.
The reason I use "start" and "exit" is to ensure that the cmd prompt itself is gone after the program starts.

oh, and make sure to change bitcoin-qt.exe to litecoin / dogecoin / whatevercoin as needed
 
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Attic

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If you have an SSD for an OS drive, then it is quite painful to have multiple coin wallets eating it all up.
Plus it makes it difficult to automatically backup. Or you might just want to create a mobile wallet.
Unfortunately data directory selection is not handled properly with a config file, instead it is a command line prompt to change it, without a command line it goes to default (a silly location).

My solution is to create a bat file in the same directory as the exe for litecoin/bitcoin/dogecoin/etc wallet software
You need to disable the "run at startup" option in the client itself, as that option creates a shortcut at the startup dir for running the client with the default data directory. Trying to change that shortcut will be futile as it will reset to the default (IIRC whenever you look at options menu)

bat file code:
Code:
IF NOT EXIST .\DATA mkdir DATA
start bitcoin-qt.exe -min -datadir=.\DATA
exit

As you can see, it uses a relative subdirectory called DATA and located inside the client's folder.
It creates that directory if it doesn't exist because otherwise the client will error out saying the directory is missing and self terminate (instead of creating the directory)

Then you just need to put a shortcut to that bat file in the startup directory and set that shortcut to run minimized to avoid an unsightly command prompt coming up every time.
The reason I use "start" and "exit" is to ensure that the cmd prompt itself is gone after the program starts.

oh, and make sure to change bitcoin-qt.exe to litecoin / dogecoin / whatevercoin as needed

:thumbsup:

Nice and elegant solution to this issue that I ran into when running multi wallets. Copied and pasted into my notes for when I set those back up.
 

suklee

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Should work fine, at least if it has a moles power cable too.



My 16x slot works with a 1x to 16x adapter to both a 7950 and 290x.



They probably don't recommend it since you are losing to 16x speed which would matter in gaming but not in mining.


Appears to be working but any ideas to make the card a bit, err, sturdier?

 

thilanliyan

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:thumbsup:

Nice and elegant solution to this issue that I ran into when running multi wallets. Copied and pasted into my notes for when I set those back up.

You can do the same by putting the "-datadir=XXXXX" line into whatever shortcut you use to open the wallet. Never ran into the datadir shortcut resetting itself. I've only had to add that line once and it's been good since. I have my wallets on the regular HDD and the OS on my SSD.
 
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KlokWyze

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Appears to be working but any ideas to make the card a bit, err, sturdier?


lol

Everyone I see elevates the card above using 2 crossbeams, but I'm guessing that's more involved than you want.

Edit:

Wow.... so all coins down a little bit, well the ones that matter, EXCEPT Doge.
 
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Grooveriding

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BTC is here to stay, but Doge has failed me. Made $2000 off Doge in two months, just from mining with a few cards, but now the difficulty is too high. Fortunately there are some other coins that are paying almost as well.
 

Attic

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One of my systems is 2-280x and 1-270 and I'm encountering what appears like a CPU related drop in kh/s.

CPU is Sempron 145, Board is MSI 770T-C45 and AM2+ board that runs DDR2.

When I disable all but one 280x I get ~600kh/s and then when I set cgminer to high priority in task manager it gets 710kh/s. Enabling the second one is similar behavior, I need to have cgminer to high priority to get hash rates as high as possible.

When I enable the 270 in a seperate cgminer instance I drop to 670 kh/s on the two 280x's even with cgminer set to high for the 280x's and left to normal for the 270.

The 270 hashes optimally in any situation.

Could this be related to the g 2 setting that i'm using in the cgminer settings for the 280x's? I know that on my multi core systems i'm not getting the same drop in kh/s on the 280x when cgminer is at normal instead of high.

I'm able to get the hashing rate up as well by disabling cool n quiet in BIOS so that the Sempron runs at 2800 vs 800, but still nothing I've tried has got the 280x's to hash the same without the 270 as with the 270 running.
 
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SimianR

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BTC is here to stay, but Doge has failed me. Made $2000 off Doge in two months, just from mining with a few cards, but now the difficulty is too high. Fortunately there are some other coins that are paying almost as well.

Really? I think doge is still one of the most profitable coins at the moment? If you know of something better point me in the right direction
 

Grooveriding

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Dec 25, 2008
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If you have nvidia cards the CUDA miners for PTS turn a better profit than scrypt coins. There are also OpenCL miners for AMD cards, but nvidia cards perform better. You can also use your CPU as well to decent effect. Generating about .042 BTC a day with 2x780, 7950, 3930K & 4670K.

If you are mining with AMD cards, which most people are, Doge is probably still the best though.
 

taltamir

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Really? I think doge is still one of the most profitable coins at the moment? If you know of something better point me in the right direction

AFAIK doge is the most profitable pump and dump to mine at the moment, just make sure to sell it as fast as you mine it
 
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