Cryptocoin Mining?

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taq8ojh

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Basically I need something that can run during the day without pissing the wife off while she's working, so something that can be cooled with like 1000rpm fan is essential.
 

SunnyD

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Basically I need something that can run during the day without pissing the wife off while she's working, so something that can be cooled with like 1000rpm fan is essential.

I don't think you're going to find anything that fits that bill really, at least nothing that will give you any hash rate that's "worth while".

Honestly, I think your best best probably would be something like a Radeon 7850 running stock clocks with lower intensity. Manually set the fan to something like 50% and see if that's acceptable in terms of temps/noise, and call it a day. You should net something like ~350KHash/s without too high a thermal budget, and "cheap" 7850's are around $100-$130ish. That's a decent hash rate with room to grow.

Honestly, I'm running 2x 6950's (reference style "blower" coolers) at a flat 50% fan speed. They add to the noise of my system a bit, but not terribly much. I mean honestly, I already have 8 case fans, 2 on the GTX660, 1 on the PSU... the system isn't exactly silent to begin with. But we're so used to it being on it's background noise to begin with.
 

holden j caufield

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I have a Powercooler 7750 single slot ddr5 in my mom's pc. It mines at 175 khash at 18 intensity. And I think 145 khash at 13 or 15 intensity (no lag at 13 an she can watch youtube etc), she can't hear it and being single slot I just removed the expansion card cover under it and it stays cool and quiet. Got a 6950 sitting below it and being single slot the extra slot between the 6950 and the 7750 really cools everything. Been stable for a weeks, without me touching anything
 

fleshconsumed

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Basically I need something that can run during the day without pissing the wife off while she's working, so something that can be cooled with like 1000rpm fan is essential.

You can always do "the mod", i.e. add AIO water cooler to your card. It will cost you money, but those things work awesome. I'm cooling R9 290@1040MHz with H100i with two ~1000RPM fans and the highest it ever gets is 64C degrees. The only downsides are it's extra money out of your pocket, you need a case that will fit it, and there is noise coming from the water pump which may or may not be annoying to you/your wife.
 

IEC

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I have several mining rigs scattered around the house in places where noise isn't noticed. Including multiple in the unused guest room

If I had a wife, they would have negative WAF though
 

IEC

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Catcoin looking to be a dead CAT soon if the network hash rate keeps dropping. People used to the high reward blocks of DOGE are crying about the 120 confirms and slow mining and leaving.

I'll leave a rig or two on it for kicks, but I question whether it will survive in its present state.
 

thilanliyan

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I had the same error message with 0.4.4 client.

In the cmd box do you get a Java.IO.EOFException (or something like that)?

It could be your blockchain is borked. You'll want to backup your current client somewhere, then download the latest client 0.4.7e and let that redownload the blockchain and transaction info. After I did that, I was good to go.

Hope that helps.

Thanks! Yes, I was getting that error. Will redo the download.
 

SunnyD

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Catcoin looking to be a dead CAT soon if the network hash rate keeps dropping. People used to the high reward blocks of DOGE are crying about the 120 confirms and slow mining and leaving.

I'll leave a rig or two on it for kicks, but I question whether it will survive in its present state.

I mined 10 cats, I'm back to middlecoin. I'd rather pay the bills until something real comes along. I still have more faith in worldcoin and sexcoin than pretty much any other coin on the market right now.
 

IEC

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I mined 10 cats, I'm back to middlecoin. I'd rather pay the bills until something real comes along. I still have more faith in worldcoin and sexcoin than pretty much any other coin on the market right now.

What do they bring to the table that makes you think that? Genuinely curious what other people think.
 

DownTheSky

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Did the Nxt "mining" already started? Or it's just transactions atm.

With this occasion I'd like to say Thanks to the people who donated Nxt.
 

Binky

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NXT transactions (fees) = "forging"

Unless you have a LOT of NXT, you aren't really going to create anything.
 

iiiankiii

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You can always do "the mod", i.e. add AIO water cooler to your card. It will cost you money, but those things work awesome. I'm cooling R9 290@1040MHz with H100i with two ~1000RPM fans and the highest it ever gets is 64C degrees. The only downsides are it's extra money out of your pocket, you need a case that will fit it, and there is noise coming from the water pump which may or may not be annoying to you/your wife.

How are you cooling the vrm? What's the temperature? I have an aio that I want to try but have nothing to cool vrm.
 

IEC

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How are you cooling the vrm? What's the temperature? I have an aio that I want to try but have nothing to cool vrm.

Any 80mm+ fan blowing directly on the VRM area would be sufficient. You can use heatshrink or cheap ballpoint pen bodies cut to size as standoffs and attach the fan directly over the VRMs. 92mm fan works best in that case.
 

IEC

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Looks like Earthcoin is taking off after being listed on eCrypto and CoinedUp exchanges. 0.000004 per EAC and rising.
 

gorobei

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assuming fad/meme coins fade away as they should, is there any current coin that actually functions as currency and solves the bitcoin weaknesses(slow transaction time, asics reducing size of miners/security,and all the coins lost to negligence and police confiscation)?
 

holden j caufield

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assuming fad/meme coins fade away as they should, is there any current coin that actually functions as currency and solves the bitcoin weaknesses(slow transaction time, asics reducing size of miners/security,and all the coins lost to negligence and police confiscation)?

isn't peercoin a better bitcoin but late to the game?
 
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assuming fad/meme coins fade away as they should, is there any current coin that actually functions as currency and solves the bitcoin weaknesses(slow transaction time, asics reducing size of miners/security,and all the coins lost to negligence and police confiscation)?

Litecoin.

But there's a few others with faster transaction times but they arrived much too late in the game to have a major impact. Essentially we need security AND speed in a coin but first come first serve means its very hard to dig an entrenched coin and replace it.

For that to occur, the new coin needs to be a major game changer. I just don't see any with that kind of potential currently, even Ripple with its major backing, or Nextcoin with its unique mining protocol (this is a huge bubble IMO, pump and dump).
 

IEC

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Litecoin.

But there's a few others with faster transaction times but they arrived much too late in the game to have a major impact. Essentially we need security AND speed in a coin but first come first serve means its very hard to dig an entrenched coin and replace it.

For that to occur, the new coin needs to be a major game changer. I just don't see any with that kind of potential currently, even Ripple with its major backing, or Nextcoin with its unique mining protocol (this is a huge bubble IMO, pump and dump).

Wait, DOGE isn't a pump and dump but NXT is? Lol.
 
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Environmentalists and people who don't want to risk lots of money buying GPUs and more money on electric bills to run those GPUs, yet still want a secure transaction system.

Nope, because people who are into cryptocoins who aren't mining in the first place would be investors.

Only investors would be interested because to "mine" with decent results NXT you need a massive starting pile of coins in the first place. Who has a massive starting pile? People who risk $$ to buy coins.

The barrier of entry is quite high to make a decent return, whereas the average gamer with a Radeon can mine other scryptcoins and get decent returns immediately without risking $ investment.

I am trying very hard to see the appeal of NXT but maybe I am short-sighted and it may take off and sustain its high value! Who knows right..
 

blastingcap

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Mining cryptocoins is definitely not riskless though you can minimize risks if you have free electricity and sunk cost video cards. We've discussed this repeatedly. If you want, I can reiterate why yet again.

Buying NXT is risky too of course, but I'm just throwing out possible reasons, such as environmental reasons that you ignored or people who want to mine and would rather buy a chunk of NXT and "forge" with it on a low-powered tablet/laptop than buy lots of expensive GPUs and pay electricity bills to match, every month.

NXT also has plans to have a built-in distributed mixing and marketplace and DNS which makes it more anonymous than bitcoin/etc. They even claim to plan encrypted chat services. They also claim to resist up to 90%+ attacks compared to 51% attacks in Bitcoin/etc. NXT also doesn't have the multi-gigabyte sized blockchain issue that Bitcoin has (though I am aware of plans to reduce that for bitcoin... btw, it's crazy to compare online wallets to wallets YOU actually own for security reasons due to all the hacks and thefts and companies that go under overnight, you absolutely cannot assure that you own ANY btc if you don't control the wallet yourself, that is a loser argument but not unexpected from certain people).

The anonymous mixing and marketplace ALONE is a huge sell for a lot of people. The blockchain issue is also a big one for those not on broadband. Billions of people around the world have a lot crappier PCs and connections than the kinds of people on this tech forum.
 
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Bitcoins have alternative wallets without the massive download, been that way awhile now.

Forging NXT requires a massive purchase of coins. It is therefore just as risky as investing by buying a lot of other coins and thus will only appeal to those who are likely to invest, as per my point.

Lets break it down in simpler terms:

Assume 50:50 miner/investor interest in a particular coin. NXT has the 50 from the investors, very little of the miners due to aforementioned reasons. Thus its market appeal is already less by default. BTC is priced today where it is partly due to investors, but partly due to the massive $$ invested in mining equipment, ASICs, server farms, even large-scale buildings dedicated to mining it. The miners have as much vested interest as investors to keep BTC alive and healthy due to their massive investments.
 

IEC

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I'm a miner AND an investor. So naturally I took some mined scrypt profits in BTC and then bought NXT while it was relatively low. I traded enough NXT within the past few days to effectively make a tidy profit in BTC AND quintuple my original NXT holdings.

At this point I'm just going to hold onto the NXT I have left as it is "free" to me. Time will tell if it's here to stay. If it achieves lunar orbit I'll benefit. If it goes to zero I won't sweat it.
 
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