Crysis first impressions

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NoSoup4You

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Maybe some people bought too much into the hype or played the demo to death and had nothing left to interest them in the full retail version? I didn't read much about the game nor did I play the demo until exhaustion so the retail version seemed truly oustanding in nearly every regard that matters. It also helps that the game I was currently playing before Crysis was Halo 3 and the single player campaign in that game is so awfully linear and boxed-in that anything else would have seemed an improvement.
 

torpid

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Sep 14, 2003
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I got the game to perform a "little" better, 25-30 fps, but it still would dip down into stop motion stuttering once in a great while. The graphics of this game are not good enough compared to the horsepower required. I ran in 1024x768 with no AA, mostly medium (highly tweaked via .cfg to be more like high) settings. For comparison, Bioshock and Half Life 2 both run at 1280x1024 with 6xAA and 2xAF on maximum detail settings at 45fps or so.

I finished the game, and even discarding the fps for a moment, I found it to be a good, not great game. It was better than Far Cry, and WAYYYY better than F.E.A.R. and Prey. But it was not even close to as good as Half Life 2.



*** POSSIBLE SPOILERS ***

It seems like roughly 3/4 or more of the game is just you taking out koreans who have random outposts. It's really strange how you see a couple aliens early on then you have to go fight koreans for 5 more hours before you even see mention of them, and no one except the archaeologist seems to think anything unusual is happening. Worse, like many B horror films, the game suffers from anti-climactic aliens. By the time you get around to fighting them, they seem ludicrously underpowered compared to the alien that swooped up half your team. The best battle was with the spider bot on the aircraft carrier. That is the one truly "epic-like" moment in the game.

Unfortunately, as soon as you finish your epic battle, it seems like the developers must have run out of ideas or wanted to wrap up the game, because you immediately fight the mother ship, which is pathetically easy. You can just stand in one spot and click a few times to beat that one.

The storyline and execution were just off for me. A really flawed game. You get the alien gun for a short while only, then it's gone. You get the tactical nuke weapon but only get to use it one battle. The gauss gun comes at a totally random point in the game, and then you don't get any ammo for it again until you are on the carrier. The koreans suddenly have nanosuits and there is a brief mention that they aren't supposed to have them, then the fact that they do is ignored the rest of the game.

As much as I am harping on it, it still is among the better FPS I suppose. As tedious as the koreans were, they don't come close to the totally inane drek in F.E.A.R.

Still, count me as disappointed. After finishing crysis earlier than expected, I re-installed bioshock and half life 2 orange box. The latter completely obliterates crysis in terms of execution and fun. Crysis might as well be tic tac toe compared to that. I just started playing episode 2 for the first time and have had special feelings in special places playing it. Bioshock is a bit frustrating but still far more rewarding than crysis, and I am probably only a third of the way through (if that).

In short, Crysis is the 3rd best first person PC game from 2007, with technology that underperforms given its hardware requirements.
 

xboxist

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Jun 25, 2002
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What kind of performance can I expect with the rig in my signature? Nothing is OC'd. Windows XP.
 

james1701

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Originally posted by: torpid
I got the game to perform a "little" better, 25-30 fps, but it still would dip down into stop motion stuttering once in a great while. The graphics of this game are not good enough compared to the horsepower required. I ran in 1024x768 with no AA, mostly medium (highly tweaked via .cfg to be more like high) settings. For comparison, Bioshock and Half Life 2 both run at 1280x1024 with 6xAA and 2xAF on maximum detail settings at 45fps or so.

What are you using to run it, a P4 and a 7900GS? HL2 is almost 4 years old, and Bioshock, as nice as it is, is not even in the same league. I think you will need to see all of the sequel's to see how they tie all the stories together.
 

tydas

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Mar 10, 2000
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Got at xmas as well and just finished..the aliens are really disappointing. In all agree with Torbid, kinda disappointing in the end with very weak story and a little buggy to boot...i mean the first patch is due in January??

Fighting the koreans was the best part as you got to stalk their base and create a plan of attack..

thank go i only paid $25...

 

TheVrolok

Lifer
Dec 11, 2000
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I just finished the game and I can say that I'm satisfied. I agree with almost all of what Torpid has said - some of the random plot pieces and devices seem a bit misplaced/misshapen. Still though, the game definitely has a sorta "epic war" feel to it, which I loved. I'm not a huge straight FPS fan, but I can say with confidence that I really enjoyed Crysis. Not as epic/well written/directed as HL-HL2E2, but still very good. I enjoyed the writing even tho it may have been a bit cliche at times. Solid game. Oh, and yeah, damn it's pretty. I played with a combination of high/very high graphical settings at 1680x1050 with 2xAA and it was perfectly playable without any sluggishness save for 2 parts when I had to drop settings to get a better framerate which I won't mention due to spoilers.
 

jonks

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Feb 7, 2005
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Originally posted by: toyota
Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Originally posted by: toyota
the full game runs exactly the same as the demo.

Which is bad lol.

It's also false...
no its not false. the game runs exactly like the demo. drivers may have improved performance but the game itself is unchanged from the demo.

Same here. But it makes sense. Say between the demo and final version they improve performance 25%, and I doubt it's that much at best. I was running the demo at about 25fps, so a 25% perf boost will only bring it to 30fps, not exactly a great leap.
 

torpid

Lifer
Sep 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: james1701
Originally posted by: torpid
I got the game to perform a "little" better, 25-30 fps, but it still would dip down into stop motion stuttering once in a great while. The graphics of this game are not good enough compared to the horsepower required. I ran in 1024x768 with no AA, mostly medium (highly tweaked via .cfg to be more like high) settings. For comparison, Bioshock and Half Life 2 both run at 1280x1024 with 6xAA and 2xAF on maximum detail settings at 45fps or so.

What are you using to run it, a P4 and a 7900GS? HL2 is almost 4 years old, and Bioshock, as nice as it is, is not even in the same league. I think you will need to see all of the sequel's to see how they tie all the stories together.

Vista, 2gb of RAM, Athlon X2 and an 8800GT 512mb. I tried it briefly on XP with the same setup and it didn't seem noticeably faster. Is it somehow possible that my processor is the bottleneck? It's an older X2 on a 939 platform.

I'm not saying it should run the same as bioshock, but I don't feel like the graphical quality even comes close to what it should be for the amount of horsepower required. I think it only looks marginally better than bioshock. It may be technically superior, but they don't take good advantage of it. It's not like Doom 3 where you really can see the difference between it and its predecessors most of the time.

The best scenes were on the carrier and in the caves. Both of those looked really, really good. That's like 2% of the game. 98% is spent in jungles and outdoors, which still don't look as good as indoor scenes, yet require seemingly 3-4x as much horsepower. Though it's nice to see shadows of leaves, and the trees looked better than other trees, they still didn't look "great" to me. They still look obviously like video game trees. Same of most of the building exteriors and interiors, with the exception of the carrier.

I'm sure the engine is great, but they did not do a good job showing off what you can do with it to me.

I don't care about the sequels. They can tie whatever they want together but it won't change the fact that the storyline for crysis was inferior to that of "great" games like HL2.
 

Ryland

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I got it for christmas as well and have been having a lot more fun with it than I expected. I have been playing it on High and it has been smooth until the first room turned to ice then it became a slideshow. I love playing with invisibility. I will go into superfast mode for awhile until I see the alert meter go red then switch to invisibility and stalking someone then either lining up multiple guys for a single shotgun blast or grabbing a soldier and playing a tossing game with him.

I have seen some AI glitches where enemy soldiers just stand there and do nothing while I am shooting their buddies.
 

RZaakir

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Originally posted by: Rottie
do you guys use gamepad or keyboard with mouse?

Is this some kind of joke?

EDIT: Seriously, I played with my X360 controller and it pretty much sucks.
 

VeZ

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I just beat it last night. I enjoyed it a bunch..but damn I had to turn down everything at the final boss even though the rest of the game ran fine at high
 

pcslookout

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Mar 18, 2007
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Originally posted by: VeZ
I just beat it last night. I enjoyed it a bunch..but damn I had to turn down everything at the final boss even though the rest of the game ran fine at high

What kind of fps were getting at everything at high during this part ? How low did you have to turn everything down to and how many fps were getting then after you did that? What video card do you have?
 

torpid

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I didn't have to turn the fps down, but I did experience a lot of stutters during some of the "cut scenes" on the carrier. By stutters I mean, game would pause for 10 seconds and load something (swap file problems?)
 

pcslookout

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Mar 18, 2007
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Originally posted by: torpid
I didn't have to turn the fps down, but I did experience a lot of stutters during some of the "cut scenes" on the carrier. By stutters I mean, game would pause for 10 seconds and load something (swap file problems?)

How much ram do you have?
 

Maximilian

Lifer
Feb 8, 2004
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Well i havent read many of the replies from this until now because i was still playing crysis and didnt wanna see any spoilers Overall i think crysis was a fantastic game, i cannot understand how anyone cant like it or describes it as liner, doom 3 to me was liner, FEAR was liner and pretty poor imo. The second half of the game is liner when compared to the first but considering the plot it probably had to be and considering crysis is a lot of fun i didnt mind too much, yeah i liked killing vietcong in their camps with my badass suit more than fighting aliens but aliens made for a change of scenery. Maybe if the first half of the game was longer it would have been a welcome change bringing in some more linearity.

One thing i wasent happy about was the aliens... its not that having aliens is bad, no aliens are good but these specific aliens... I bet the vietcong and US marines when they saw them said something like "Solider 1:Hmm they look like theyre from that movie, ya know with keanu reeves? Oh the matrix yeah! Commander! Get keanu reeves here now, we need his psychic powers to defeat these things" They stole the damn aliens from the matrix, ok theyre machines in the matrix but who cares they look pretty similar. I really really think they should have had aliens that are more scary/goopy/biological, even in the ship they didnt look like anything, yeah my graphics were on low, when the geforce 10 comes out ill buy it then replay crysis on high but on low they looked like advanced frogspawn or something. I was expecting scarier aliens. I think they took the matrix movie/preys weird environments (not the goopy alien crap but the gravity stuff and the super fast tunnel ride etc) and got the alien ship from a combination of those two things.

Two other things that bugged me about crysis was the lack of a sensitivity adjuster for vehicle controls, i can adjust the controls themselves why not the sensitivity? It was tedious aiming that tracked AA thing. Also when protecting prophet when hes dying of cold, sometimes the aliens don't die, i have to melee kill them because they just float there and the game dosent continue and prophet dies, in addition to that some fires on cars that heat him up do not show up graphically, they are there as he heats up and the sounds of fire buring are there too but sometimes theres no fire graphic. Could be my drivers/card etc, but whatever.

EDIT: Yeah i forgot to mention i got those damn pauses as well, the cut scenes paused for like 20 seconds onetime, but somehow the audio didn't get out of synch. This happened a little before the carrier and a lot on the carrier, rather odd.

So on the whole crysis is a great game, theres a lot of garbage FPS's out there (most arent even mentioned on these forums) but crysis is a step above the rest, its up there with HL2 with regards to gameplay for sure, story was weaker than HL2's but it was sufficient and sufficient for an FPS these days is a good thing. I definitely will play through it again when i get a better card, just like i did with farcry, definitely worth my money.
 

skace

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Jan 23, 2001
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Crysis is only enjoyable if your computer can handle it, and I'm wagering most can't. Thus the differing opinions. The gameplay and graphics are top notch, and while the story is not great, it does not get in the way at all either.
 

bamacre

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Jul 1, 2004
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SPOILERS POSSIBLE !!!

Ok, the first half of this game rocked.

Inside the alien-infested mountain sucked. I got out of it, and whew, back outside. Looks great, FPS dropping but thats ok. Now I am in the VTOL and I gotta fly this fuckin' thing. Ok, I finally got the controls working ok, but I cannot get past this part, I can't kill all these alien things flying around with me flying this VTOL. They always take me down before I can get 1 or 2 of them down. Haha, I even tried landing so I could get out and fight them from the ground. Any tips? I'm trying really hard not to get frustrated with this game.
 

skace

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: bamacre
SPOILERS POSSIBLE !!!

Ok, the first half of this game rocked.

Inside the alien-infested mountain sucked. I got out of it, and whew, back outside. Looks great, FPS dropping but thats ok. Now I am in the VTOL and I gotta fly this fuckin' thing. Ok, I finally got the controls working ok, but I cannot get past this part, I can't kill all these alien things flying around with me flying this VTOL. They always take me down before I can get 1 or 2 of them down. Haha, I even tried landing so I could get out and fight them from the ground. Any tips? I'm trying really hard not to get frustrated with this game.

The VTOL level was where I actually lowered my settings to medium. The view from the air is beautiful but it gives the computer a good ass beating. On top of this, flying the VTOL requires smooth frame rates and fighting the aliens doubly so.

Lower your settings and the aliens will become easy, you should reach a framerate where you can circle strafe in midair with the VTOL and spin around quickly and fire at different objects. The VTOL actually moves quite fluidly once the game is running properly.

Once my game was running good, I could kill several of those alien things without a problem by just taking aim and firing. But one of my strategies that I used if they did gain ground was a backwards circle strafe. Do lots of strafing in midair and you shouldn't have a problem.
 

Pocatello

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I just finished the game, I enjoyed it a lot. The scenery was great, lots of action. There were moments of frustrations, such as Core (made me feel nauseated), controlling the AAA, and flying the VTOL.
 

VeZ

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Originally posted by: pcslookout
Originally posted by: VeZ
I just beat it last night. I enjoyed it a bunch..but damn I had to turn down everything at the final boss even though the rest of the game ran fine at high

What kind of fps were getting at everything at high during this part ? How low did you have to turn everything down to and how many fps were getting then after you did that? What video card do you have?

Well after turning every single thing on low Im pretty sure I was runnning 60 fps cause it was damn smooth haha. But before then I was having way too much trouble trying to kill the aliens flying around at my face, so after the 3rd time of trying to beat it I just switched everything to low. Im runnin an e6750, bfg 8800gt oc, and 2gb RAM on XP
 

Maximilian

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Feb 8, 2004
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Originally posted by: bamacre
I'll give that a try, skace. Thanks.

Also your VTOL health regenerates. I just ignored a good chunk of those flying things and flew to the carrier.
 

torpid

Lifer
Sep 14, 2003
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Originally posted by: bamacre
SPOILERS POSSIBLE !!!

Ok, the first half of this game rocked.

Inside the alien-infested mountain sucked. I got out of it, and whew, back outside. Looks great, FPS dropping but thats ok. Now I am in the VTOL and I gotta fly this fuckin' thing. Ok, I finally got the controls working ok, but I cannot get past this part, I can't kill all these alien things flying around with me flying this VTOL. They always take me down before I can get 1 or 2 of them down. Haha, I even tried landing so I could get out and fight them from the ground. Any tips? I'm trying really hard not to get frustrated with this game.

I did a lot of "backpedalling" in the VTOL. I'd shoot, then they'd fly by, so I'd turn towards them and then move "backwards" in the VTOL. Took them out pretty quickly that way. Also, make liberal use of your missiles. Lastly, pay special heed to when they talk about cyclones. There are parts of the area where if you get too close your VTOL will hit the ground inexplicably.
 
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