Custom R9 290X

[Fastx]

This looks to be setting up and looking real good for the 290 for me imo, if what I am thinking turns out to be the case for the 290 after looking at theses BM's so far (& per poss. more in the tank) on 290x at $570.00!

Bring on the 290 I want to see!

 

[BallaTheFeared]

HC tested the GTX 780 Ti Ghz and it just can't OC. Same happens with the EVGA SC. 2% and 4% gains respectively.

If you take in mind the OC potential of the 290X DCU the difference in performance is ~10% by HC numbers.

Weird...

TPU gained 10% off the SC.

 

[Imouto]

Bring on the 290 I want to see!

This will be the real game breaking card. If we see the same performance increase with custom designs as the 290X DCU it will be within a 15% from the GTX 780 Ti and the latter being 60% more expensive with 25% less VRAM.

If you compare it to the GTX 780 it gets nasty. A max OC GTX 780 Classy (again HC numbers) is 20% faster than the stock reference GTX 780 so a max OCed custom GTX 780 will be head to head with a stock custom R9 290. That being 25% more expensive, having 25% less VRAM and the R9 290 waiting to be OCed.

 

[Imouto]

TPU gained 10% off the SC.

I said HC numbers.

Twice.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I'm aware of what you said, I said TPU got 10% with their SC, 11% with their Jet Stream, 19% with their reference.

I'm talking about fps gains too, not clock gains.

 

[Imouto]

I'm aware of what you said, I said TPU got 10% with their SC, 11% with their Jet Stream, 19% with their reference.

I'm talking about fps gains too, not clock gains.

So we agree that the ceiling is 20% better performance from the stock reference to the max OCed custom card? Until the Classy and the likes show up, ofc.

So it's the same.

Both reference = 10% difference
Both custom = 10% difference

Anyway SKYMTL said at OCN forums that he's confident about pushing the R9 290X DCU to 1.3 Ghz at 1.3v, that the OC in the review was rushed.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Classy and the others will be limited similarly, but will benefit just like these current cards from software overvolting that ties into MSI AB.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that these cards are limited to 38mv over stock voltage, which is something that can be circumvented by using a 3rd party software tool in conjunction with MSI AB.


SKYMTL said he could take it to 1.3GHz on air at 1.3v but instead settled for 1195MHz at 1337mv? Are you sure you read that right?

 

[Imouto]

Classy and the others will be limited similarly, but will benefit just like these current cards from software overvolting that ties into MSI AB.

You seem to be ignoring the fact that these cards are limited to 38mv over stock voltage, which is something that can be circumvented by using a 3rd party software tool in conjunction with MSI AB.

I'm aware of that. Neither the GTX 780 Ti or the R9 290X have proper PCBs and cooling to push them to the limit. Even then I expect the difference to remain a 10% favoring Nv.

SKYMTL said he could take it to 1.3GHz on air at 1.3v but instead settled for 1195MHz at 1337mv? Are you sure you read that right?

"It'll go higher....with less voltage. I just went for stability but didn't really test anything higher. I'll update with more OC results tonight but 1.3GHz at 1.30V seems doable." +linku

 

[BallaTheFeared]

+linku

Thanks for the link, seemed silly when you said it, I hope you understand!

 

[Skurge]

Does anyone know if the Gigabyte card uses a custom PCB?

 

[B1U]

I've been eyeing this thread for a while, thought you guys might appreciate a review of an ASUS R9-290X DirectCU II OC.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_290x_directcuii_oc_review,1.html

 

[bigi]

I've been eyeing this thread for a while, thought you guys might appreciate a review of an ASUS R9-290X DirectCU II OC.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_290x_directcuii_oc_review,1.html

Hawt. Just give my r290 now and take my money.

 

[Black Octagon]

I've been eyeing this thread for a while, thought you guys might appreciate a review of an ASUS R9-290X DirectCU II OC.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_r9_290x_directcuii_oc_review,1.html

Little late sport. Both this and the Hardware Canucks review were posted earlier today

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I don't really think I'd overclock the asus 290x as it looks to be at my comfort limit temps wise with the dc2 cooler on it. So basically for me its a stock 290x without all the downsides. Seems decent for an upper end card but the value is always going to be poor in that price range which is why I stay out of it. And don't get me started on how poor a value the ti is.

 

[Lonyo]

My are you both comparing custom 290X OC model to reference 780TI?

Last time I checked, the price premium for the superclocked 780TI was only 20$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814487001

Thats roughly 12½% more performance for 20$. No wonder you dont want to use that to compare with.

And if we look further on Newegg, the 290X reference cost 629$.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161438

Easy to pick the 780TI SC for 90$ more.

Unless a miracle/disaster happens. That Asus card will not be 570$ anytime soon.

And if you wish to OC the card, as people like to sue as argument. The 780TI is even more value.

My are you comparing the highest price you can find to a non-inflated price, knowing full well you can get an R9 290X for much less?

You will call out other people for making what you deem to be apparently silly comparisons, but then go on to do the same thing yourself in the same thread? Double standards?

 

[blackened23]

My are you comparing the highest price you can find to a non-inflated price, knowing full well you can get an R9 290X for much less?

You will call out other people for making what you deem to be apparently silly comparisons, but then go on to do the same thing yourself in the same thread? Double standards?

How is it a silly comparison? You can't buy the 280X, 290 and 290X at MSRP right now in the states without extreme luck. Most 290X reference cards are 630$ right now. 290? 520$. All prices are inflated well past the MSRP to the point that NV cards are the better value right now. For the most part, if you're buying hardware in the states, you're using Newegg or Amazon. B+M retailers except for 2-3 don't sell super high end GPUs. MC does. Best buy does not. Most people in the states buying hardware, will buy from an etailer and etailers all have inflated prices unless you get REALLY lucky. Therefore it's a fair comparison. The prices are wack thanks to miners.

I don't see why it bothers you so much, but that's the situation right now in the US. All thanks to miners who (mostly) aren't playing PC games, they've skewed the actual gaming market. Maybe the situation will auto correct by the time these aftermarket cards arrive in January, but that is how things are right now.

 

[Skurge]

How is it a silly comparison? You can't buy the 280X, 290 and 290X at MSRP right now in the states without extreme luck. Most 290X reference cards are 630$ right now. 290? 520$. All prices are inflated well past the MSRP to the point that NV cards are the better value right now. For the most part, if you're buying hardware in the states, you're using Newegg or Amazon. B+M retailers except for 2-3 don't sell super high end GPUs. MC does. Best buy does not. Most people in the states buying hardware, will buy from an etailer and etailers all have inflated prices unless you get REALLY lucky. Therefore it's a fair comparison. The prices are wack thanks to miners.

I don't see why it bothers you so much, but that's the situation right now in the US. All thanks to miners who (mostly) aren't playing PC games, they've skewed the actual gaming market. Maybe the situation will auto correct by the time these aftermarket cards arrive in January, but that is how things are right now.

Well sucks to be you guys in the states.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Remember the heatsink on the HIS HD 7970 times 2? It kept two 7970s at 70c at 70dba, I imagine we might see it on the custom 290x.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

B+M retailers except for 2-3 don't sell super high end GPUs. MC does. Best buy does not.

My best buy does. So does frys electronics. Saw a Titan on a shelf for 850...

 

[blackened23]

Well sucks to be you guys in the states.

No, not really, I don't think anyone cares except miners. Nvidia is just the better value right now for comparable (780) or better (780ti) performance / much better software features. Like I said though, hopefully the price situation auto corrects at some point in the future. Because the DC II 290x *is* a great card. No denying that. Fixes up all of the reference issues and performs very well - it is everything the reference 290X should have been.

I don't think the situation is the same in the UK, i'm not sure what the situation in other parts of EU is. In the US supply / demand is in full effect. Not sure what it's like in other parts of EU.

 

[blackened23]

My best buy does. So does frys electronics. Saw a Titan on a shelf for 850...

Which best buy do you shop at? Around here, you can find Titans online via Best Buy but other than that...you'd be lucky to find a 660ti on a retail shelf. You would also be nuts to buy it via B+M retail because the price is even higher and you're paying taxes. Most newegg shoppers (I know there are exceptions) do not pay tax and get free shipping to boot. Thus newegg is the premier place for electronics, for the most part. Amazon is great too but their selection sucks compared to newegg.

Of course, the situation on the west coast is different. If you live in CA and you'll just get screwed no matter where you shop in terms of price/taxes.

Of course there are no Fry's or MC around here. Fry's are mostly a West coast thing, yeah?

 

[SolMiester]

Well sucks to be you guys in the states.

That makes a change, usually they have the best prices and everyone else suffers...

 

[24601]

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/ASUS-Radeon-R9-290X-DirectCU-II-Graphics-Card-Review

OCN always has the super nice first post. We should have a mod dedicated to just plainly putting links in the OPs of these threads maybe.

 

[Silverforce11]

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/ASUS-Radeon-R9-290X-DirectCU-II-Graphics-Card-Review

OCN always has the super nice first post. We should have a mod dedicated to just plainly putting links in the OPs of these threads maybe.

Why so much variation in the same games being benched?

"The ASUS card performed better than the GTX 780 Ti in Bioshock Infinite and Crysis 3 while the GTX 780 Ti's only definitive victory came in Battlefield 3. In the three other games tested, the cards were so close that I'll call it a performance tie."

Clearly Crysis 3 is not right because that game runs faster on NV cards.

 

[Fastx]

Yes the overclocking and conclusion summary was pretty glowing and it received their Gold Award

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphi...Graphics-Card-Review/Overclocking-and-Conclus