Danica Patrick, on Letterman *vid*

[amol]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: Amol
I'm still working on getting the clip of her on Good Morning America into a compressed form

It's 500MB, I'm trying to get it to at least sub-100MB

Few successful attempts with the video, but the audio wasn't there

damn, how long is her segment ? 10 mins of divx 5 (640x480) @ 700kbps + mp3 audio @ 24kbps/24000Hz is 50MB.

i recorded it uncompressed off the digital channel

it's 5min:12sec

anyways, i finally got it down to a reasonable size

uploading right now

edit: d'oh, upload is painstakingly slow right now

don't expect it up for a while ... it's not too big a file

 

[rh71]

I was maxing my upload (45KBps) when I upped the Letterman one... maybe people are all over the server still... what are you getting ?

 

[CaptainNixon]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't understand what the big deal is, she finished in 4th place. She's pulling a Kournikova, I guess.

Leading the race on one of the final laps?

She really was not that close. She did not have enough gas to finish the race if it had stayed under green for the remainder of the race. The only reason she was up front is because they decided not to pit for a gas and go like the rest of the leaders.

It would have taken a major caution with 5-6 laps to go for her to finish under yellow to win. It was a huge risk. If she had pitted for fuel she would have remained in 8 to 12 place which still would have been great for a rookie.

She did make some huge rookie mistakes. The stall in the pits and the spinout under yellow were pretty bad mistakes even for a rookie.

So I will wait to pass judgement. If she can pull off at least 3-5 top tens then she is for real. Otherwise for now it is a little too much hype.

 

[amol]

Originally posted by: rh71
I was maxing my upload (45KBps) when I upped the Letterman one... maybe people are all over the server still... what are you getting ?

2KBps

edit: crap, i just got kicked off

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CaptainNixon

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't understand what the big deal is, she finished in 4th place. She's pulling a Kournikova, I guess.

Leading the race on one of the final laps?

She really was not that close. She did not have enough gas to finish the race if it had stayed under green for the remainder of the race. The only reason she was up front is because they decided not to pit for a gas and go like the rest of the leaders.

It would have taken a major caution with 5-6 laps to go for her to finish under yellow to win. It was a huge risk. If she had pitted for fuel she would have remained in 8 to 12 place which still would have been great for a rookie.

She did make some huge rookie mistakes. The stall in the pits and the spinout under yellow were pretty bad mistakes even for a rookie.

So I will wait to pass judgement. If she can pull off at least 3-5 top tens then she is for real. Otherwise for now it is a little too much hype.

I've seen stalls in the pits by very experienced drivers. And, for spins, remember Danny Sullivan's 360?

 

[z0mb13]

she is HOOTTT

 

[amol]

Originally posted by: z0mb13
she is HOOTTT

:thumbsup:

 

[FrustratedUser]

I like her and she did a great race.
Looking forward to the next one.

 

[CaptainNixon]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CaptainNixon

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't understand what the big deal is, she finished in 4th place. She's pulling a Kournikova, I guess.

Leading the race on one of the final laps?

She really was not that close. She did not have enough gas to finish the race if it had stayed under green for the remainder of the race. The only reason she was up front is because they decided not to pit for a gas and go like the rest of the leaders.

It would have taken a major caution with 5-6 laps to go for her to finish under yellow to win. It was a huge risk. If she had pitted for fuel she would have remained in 8 to 12 place which still would have been great for a rookie.

She did make some huge rookie mistakes. The stall in the pits and the spinout under yellow were pretty bad mistakes even for a rookie.

So I will wait to pass judgement. If she can pull off at least 3-5 top tens then she is for real. Otherwise for now it is a little too much hype.

I've seen stalls in the pits by very experienced drivers. And, for spins, remember Danny Sullivan's 360?

Danny spun racing, She spun under the yellow!
But yes stalling is not that uncommon, I will let her off on that one.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't understand what the big deal is, she finished in 4th place. She's pulling a Kournikova, I guess.

Wth, how could you compare her to Kournikova. Now if Kournikova took 4th place in the MEN'S French Open in her ROOKIE season then maybe the comparison would be valid.

This is exactly my other point, driving skills aren't gender-specific. It's not like they build different cars for men and women.

Tennis is completely different because men have an obvious height and muscular advantage over the women. If you've ever watched tennis (and I assume you have, since you drew the comparison) you know that there is a huge split between the men's and women's game. This is more like a woman finishing in 4th place in a men's ping-pong tournament. Sure, athletics do have some impact, but it is not the main determing factor.

As was said before, hardly anyone knows who finished in second or third. On the other hand everyone knows that Patrick finished in 4th place and is lauding her like she just beat everyone by 10 minutes. As I said earlier, I'm not saying that 4th place is bad, I'm saying that the amount of attention is disproportionate to the accomplishment and is pure media sensationalism.

Just think, if some rookie guy finished in 4th place nobody would bat an eyelash. So to sum things up: she didn't win anything, she's pretty and taking advantage of it. Nothing wrong with that as far as I'm concerned, but that's the definition of pulling a Kournikova.

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't understand what the big deal is, she finished in 4th place. She's pulling a Kournikova, I guess.

I'm not going to bother explaining that she's a rookie phenom or that she practically qualified as #1 in a field of the world's 33 best drivers... so think of it this way - just another chick thread, ok ?

worlds best drivers? indy car right?

no way.....worlds best drivers belong on the rough stuff.....thats right WRC

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
blah blah blah

you didn't answer in the other patrick thread so here it is again - do you know why you know Jackie Robinson's name ? His color doesn't mean he's any better at baseball either, just like gender in driving, but he's known to practically every sports fan there is. Do you know why ?

Is it that impossible to comprehend that she's changing the way people think of women on the race track ? Even if that's not her goal. Even if she hasn't been #1 just yet. In racing, what are we associating her with ? Holy sh#t she actually has a chance unlike others before her. She has the ability to reach the top where she didn't belong. Much like what Robinson accomplished when he reached the majors. Like your point, his skin color didn't affect his baseball skills either, did it ? But he mattered to millions just the same, and it's not even because he won championships (how many knew he did?)...

 

[edro]

Originally posted by: chuckywang
she's hot, man.

:thumbsup:

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: CaptainNixon

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't understand what the big deal is, she finished in 4th place. She's pulling a Kournikova, I guess.

Leading the race on one of the final laps?

She really was not that close. She did not have enough gas to finish the race if it had stayed under green for the remainder of the race. The only reason she was up front is because they decided not to pit for a gas and go like the rest of the leaders.

It would have taken a major caution with 5-6 laps to go for her to finish under yellow to win. It was a huge risk. If she had pitted for fuel she would have remained in 8 to 12 place which still would have been great for a rookie.

She did make some huge rookie mistakes. The stall in the pits and the spinout under yellow were pretty bad mistakes even for a rookie.

So I will wait to pass judgement. If she can pull off at least 3-5 top tens then she is for real. Otherwise for now it is a little too much hype.

Don't forget the wreck she caused under yellow that made her have to get the nose of her car replaced, then had to be pitted a 2nd time as a penalty because the pit lanes weren't open at the time. Had she not made so many mistakes, she could have won the whole thing by a huge margin.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
blah blah blah

you didn't answer in the other patrick thread so here it is again - do you know why you know Jackie Robinson's name ? His color doesn't mean he's any better at baseball either, just like gender in driving, but he's known to practically every sports fan there is. Do you know why ?

Is it that impossible to comprehend that she's changing the way people think of women on the race track ? Even if that's not her goal. Even if she hasn't been #1 just yet. In racing, what are we associating her with ? Holy sh#t she actually has a chance unlike others before her. She has the ability to reach the top where she didn't belong. Much like what Robinson accomplished when he reached the majors. Like your point, his skin color didn't affect his baseball skills either, did it ? But he mattered to millions just the same, and it's not even because he won championships (how many knew he did?)...

Ummm... I'm sorry, but Jackie Robinson was completely different. As far as I know, nobody ever blocked women from joining teams in the IRL, at least not in recent memory.

To quote from your own article:

Robinson was the target of racial epithets and flying cleats, of hate letters and death threats, of pitchers throwing at his head and legs, and catchers spitting on his shoes.

Poor Danicka Patrick, she has to put up with all these TV interviews where people laud her for finishing in 4th place, that's so horrible compared to what Robinson went through.

The 6-foot, 195-pound Robinson was the Rookie of the Year and two years later he was MVP. His lifetime average was .311 and he was voted into the Hall of Fame in his first year of eligibility. [...] It was the way he was a disruptive force [...] instilling the Dodgers with the spirit that would help them win six pennants in his 10 seasons

Robinson proved he was one of the greats, how can you even compare Jackie Robinson's accomplishments with Patrick's 4th place finish in a single race?

Let me know when Patrick wins a race, then a championship; then she will be deserving of all this media hoopla. Until then she's pulling a Kournikova.

 

[boyRacer]

Montoya whipped the Indy 500 field as a "rookie"... lol.

EDIT: Before somebody jumps on my throat, Danica is impressive but I wish she went to CART instead. Anyway, Indy 500 ratings is up 40%... :Q

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: bR
Montoya whipped the Indy 500 field as a "rookie"... lol.

EDIT: Before somebody jumps on my throat, Danica is impressive but I wish she went to CART instead. Anyway, Indy 500 ratings is up 40%... :Q

IRL actually offers some good racing even if it is on an oval but I still prefer CART. It's just sad that CART is almost dead.

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
blah blah blah

you didn't answer in the other patrick thread so here it is again - do you know why you know Jackie Robinson's name ? His color doesn't mean he's any better at baseball either, just like gender in driving, but he's known to practically every sports fan there is. Do you know why ?

Is it that impossible to comprehend that she's changing the way people think of women on the race track ? Even if that's not her goal. Even if she hasn't been #1 just yet. In racing, what are we associating her with ? Holy sh#t she actually has a chance unlike others before her. She has the ability to reach the top where she didn't belong. Much like what Robinson accomplished when he reached the majors. Like your point, his skin color didn't affect his baseball skills either, did it ? But he mattered to millions just the same, and it's not even because he won championships (how many knew he did?)...

Ummm... I'm sorry, but Jackie Robinson was completely different. As far as I know, nobody ever blocked women from joining teams in the IRL, at least not in recent memory.

Poor Danicka Patrick, she has to put up with all these TV interviews where people laud her for finishing in 4th place, that's so horrible compared to what Robinson went through.

Robinson proved he was one of the greats, how can you even compare Jackie Robinson's accomplishments with Patrick's 4th place finish in a single race?

Let me know when Patrick wins a race, then a championship; then she will be deserving of all this media hoopla. Until then she's pulling a Kournikova.

COMPLETELY missed the point. Did you even read what I wrote ? That's how I'm comparing the two. No need to reference Robinson's statistical accomplishments when that's not even what I'm arguing. Nobody knew him for his championships, only that he was the first to make it in a place he didn't belong. No, Danica isn't breaking any gender borders, but she is the first to be successful (or obviously will be - if this is what you're hung up on, you are evidently sour at something). Not a big deal ?

I wonder if this... becoming the first woman to blah blah blah has anything to do with it. You compare her to Kournikova when Kournikova is all looks and nowhere near the top among her peers. Danica Patrick is already at the top among her peers. I wouldn't have said this before what she showed at Indy (qualifications included). Oh and the woman thing being uncommon in the sport... or being just 23 years old. That's not a big deal either ? You think it's exclusively because of gender - why no coverage with the prior women in the sport ? There were 3 that have passed through. Why are they jumping on Danica's back ? Because, as a woman, she is going to be the first one to actually have a chance. She's already in the books in some categories. And there will be more. Don't give me this looks-only crap. She's not pulling anything. If she sucked, I wouldn't be so adamant about this.

Why is Jackie Robinson a big deal ? Because he made it through when he didn't belong.

What is wrong with making her a big deal - it is. She is claiming a level of success nobody like her ever has. The media shouldn't be all over this ? What world do you live in ?

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

I think that the divergence of opinion stems from the fact that you consider that "will be successful" and "has a chance" means something whereas I don't. Do you have any idea how many "never was" athletes have come and gone? That's why I think that all this attention is premature. I'm not sour at anything, I just think it's all far too premature at this point to crown her God's gift to motorsport.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: CaptainNixon

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CaptainNixon

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't understand what the big deal is, she finished in 4th place. She's pulling a Kournikova, I guess.

Leading the race on one of the final laps?

She really was not that close. She did not have enough gas to finish the race if it had stayed under green for the remainder of the race. The only reason she was up front is because they decided not to pit for a gas and go like the rest of the leaders.

It would have taken a major caution with 5-6 laps to go for her to finish under yellow to win. It was a huge risk. If she had pitted for fuel she would have remained in 8 to 12 place which still would have been great for a rookie.

She did make some huge rookie mistakes. The stall in the pits and the spinout under yellow were pretty bad mistakes even for a rookie.

So I will wait to pass judgement. If she can pull off at least 3-5 top tens then she is for real. Otherwise for now it is a little too much hype.

I've seen stalls in the pits by very experienced drivers. And, for spins, remember Danny Sullivan's 360?

Danny spun racing, She spun under the yellow!
But yes stalling is not that uncommon, I will let her off on that one.

Bah, I've seen seasoned drivers crash into each other on the formation lap. She is the real deal and I hope she does well.

 

[Triumph]

marking for when i get home. thanks!

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: Argo

Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I don't understand what the big deal is, she finished in 4th place. She's pulling a Kournikova, I guess.

Wth, how could you compare her to Kournikova. Now if Kournikova took 4th place in the MEN'S French Open in her ROOKIE season then maybe the comparison would be valid.

Uh... she's driving a car. It's not like her physical strength is a factor here.

She's an interesting figure, for sure, but I have to agree that the 100 fewer pounds does give her an advantage.

 

[Triumph]

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