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zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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Android tablets are just completely fucked. There is absolutely no reason to buy one. Unless you want to buy a cheaper inferior product.

Of course there are. Some people just don't like iOS. That's why there's Blackberry, Windows, and Android phones too.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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right, you'd rather be stuck in an ecosystem with no apps

The very fact that Apple users are locked into something called an "ecosystem" is exactly why I will never own an iGadget. I don't like being dictated to by anybody, much less a gadget company.
 
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Holy heck that thing is awesome! I'm not an apple fanboy or anything. I don't even really get into tablets/phones as you see I never post in these forums. But looking over the specs it's crazy. Hi res screen, quad core CPU and GPU, for $499. Wow.
 

MaxFusion16

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Dec 21, 2001
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Is this a joke?

is it funny? stand back and evaluate the tablets objectively, what's not to like about the iPad aside from being an apple product?

it's got the most apps
retina display
thin and light
best battery life
probably the fastest cpu/gpu
best build quality
best resale value

how's that xoom doing? transformer?
 

zerocool84

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
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what's not to like? sounds like irrational hatred to me.

Some people prefer other ways of doing things, that's why there's multiple mobile operating systems out. All mobile OS's have their negatives. It just comes down to preference.
 

Puddle Jumper

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is it funny? stand back and evaluate the tablets objectively, what's not to like about the iPad aside from being an apple product?

it's got the most apps
retina display
thin and light
best battery life
probably the fastest cpu/gpu
best build quality
best resale value

how's that xoom doing? transformer?

You really ought to check your facts before posting something like that.

-retina display is debatable until we see detailed specs for it
-The Transformer Prime, Transformer Infinity, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Galaxy Note 10.1, and Toshiba Excite are all thinner and lighter than the iPad 3, several of them are substantially thinner.
-The Galaxy Tab 7.7 has better battery life
-The cpu is guaranteed not to be the fastest, the gpu might be the fastest depending on what the next gen Exynos parts use.
-built quality is subjective
-the resale value won't be very good once the iPad 4 hits.
 
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kami

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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WHether or not you like Apple and iOS, it is hard to deny they set new standards for mobile hardware like this.

Every other company just plays catch up. Once they catch up, Apple comes out with something else they need to catch up on. Until someone comes along and one-ups Apple on something substantial, I don't see this changing. Even if they do get eclipsed in hardware by a large margin, they have to compete with how embedded itunes and app store are now with people.
 

ponyo

Lifer
Feb 14, 2002
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LOL Apple just killed the high end tablet market...

Yup. But they left the door wide open for low end cheap tablets. Personally after using tablets for two years, I'm now more in the camp tablets should be cheap since it's limited in things it can do.

But no one is touching iPad3 on the high end. Apple left all Android tablets in the dust hardware/software. My only wish which is nitpicking is that I would rather had better front camera for HD FaceTime rather than better back camera. But other than that, iPad3 is almost perfect in my eyes.

LTE thing was probably the most important news today. It confirms iPhone5 will have LTE with good battery life.
 

MaxFusion16

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Dec 21, 2001
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You really ought to check your facts before posting something like that.

-retina display is debatable until we see detailed specs for it
-The Transformer Prime, Transformer Infinity, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Galaxy Note 10.1, and Toshiba Excite are all thinner and lighter than the iPad 3, some of them are substantially thinner.
-The Galaxy Tab 7.7 has better battery life
-The cpu is guaranteed not to be the fastest, the gpu might be the fastest depending on what the next gen Exynos parts use.
-built quality is subjective
-the resale value won't be very good once the iPad 4 hits.

-retina specs are already available,
2048-by-1536-pixel resolution at 264 pixels per inch (ppi)
-ok, so there are smaller tablets than the iPad, what about as a whole? is there a single android competitor to the iPad? you can't cherry pick specs from a dozen devices to to compare with the a single device.
-I said probably, we'll wait for the benchmarks, apple claims superior performance to tegra 3, we'll see.
-how is build quality subjective? aesthetics is subjective, build quality is objective. iPad is a solid piece of aluminium versus plastic shells on android tablets.
-this is idiotic, people were still selling their ipad 2s for $400+ a year after its debut just last week. How much is that transformer worth now? android resale is just terrible, period.
 

Ns1

No Lifer
Jun 17, 2001
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srsly there is absolutely no reason to not pick up this preorder right now.

At best sell at launch for profit, use excess to buy whatever. At worse, sell for cost to friend or return to Apple.
 

ElFenix

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Mar 20, 2000
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i'm probably not going to buy one but i really hope this pushes us beyond the terrible 720p resolution for notebooks and meh 1080p for desktops.
 

Puddle Jumper

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-retina specs are already available,
2048-by-1536-pixel resolution at 264 pixels per inch (ppi)
-ok, so there are smaller tablets than the iPad, what about as a whole? is there a single android competitor to the iPad? you can't cherry pick specs from a dozen devices to to compare with the a single device.
-I said probably, we'll wait for the benchmarks, apple claims superior performance to tegra 3, we'll see.
-how is build quality subjective? aesthetics is subjective, build quality is objective. iPad is a solid piece of aluminium versus plastic shells on android tablets.
-this is idiotic, people were still selling their ipad 2s for $400+ a year after its debut just last week. How much is that transformer worth now? android resale is just terrible, period.

Those specs aren't enough to say that the Retina display is superior. I realize Apple fans only care about resolution but things like contrast, black levels, and brightness matter to the rest of us.

All of the tablets I mentioned are 10.1" models so they are a perfectly valid comparison to the iPad. If you want to pick one of them pick the Transformer Infinity, it's 7.6mm thick and weighs 586g. It's also expected to have ~10 hours of battery life so it may equal the iPad 3 on that front as well.

We know A5X is a dual core Cortex A9 with a new gpu so it's obvious Tegra 3 and Krait will have superior cpus. As I said the gpu may be the best but it's hard to be 100% sure without knowing exactly what it is.

The Transformer Infinity, Transformer Prime, and Galaxy Tab 7.7 are all aluminum as well.

Some of us expect our tablets to last longer than a year so the release value after a few months isn't relevant.
 

MaxFusion16

Golden Member
Dec 21, 2001
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Those specs aren't enough to say that the Retina display is superior. I realize Apple fans only care about resolution but things like contrast, black levels, and brightness matter to the rest of us.

All of the tablets I mentioned are 10.1" models so they are a perfectly valid comparison to the iPad. If you want to pick one of them pick the Transformer Infinity, it's 7.6mm thick and weighs 586g. It's also expected to have ~10 hours of battery life so it may equal the iPad 3 on that front as well.

We know A5X is a dual core Cortex A9 with a new gpu so it's obvious Tegra 3 and Krait will have superior cpus. As I said the gpu may be the best but it's hard to be 100% sure without knowing exactly what it is.

The Transformer Infinity, Transformer Prime, and Galaxy Tab 7.7 are all aluminum as well.

Some of us expect our tablets to last longer than a year so the release value after a few months isn't relevant.

do all the tablets you mentioned come with retina display and LTE? 10 hour battery life?

my point is, there is no single android tablet that's able to go head to head with the new iPad.

tegra 2 was also dual core and yet it doesn't even come close to the A5, so we'll see how tegra 3 pans out.

doesn't matter if it's relevant or not, fact is apple products have higher resale value. And apple products actually last a whole lot longer than android, apple continues to release software updates for at least 2 years, maybe 3. How long did it take for the honeycomb tablets to get ICS? Are they getting jellybean? My guess is no.
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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this is more of a curiosity not trying to flame, people keep going on about the resoloution and i admit its impressive given the size but what does it really offer over 1080p?

TBH ive looked at ipads and ipad2s and messed with them, however not for extended periods of time, and i find nothing wrong with the screen. same with my EE pad which is 1280x800 (i think) it looks fine. im pretty sure im just missing something. i can understand higher rez on a computer where you can stager windows, but other then playing back video at a native rez or looking at photos, whats the massive benefit?
 
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