Originally posted by: HamSupLo
how about setting up a shoutcast stream for us ATOT members? heh
Originally posted by: MetalMat
What type of stuff are you playing on that, and are you charging people (who paied for all of this?).Is it better than shoutcast or Sirus/XM radio? I guess its cool if you did it in you spare time for free, I would like to have you as a dorm mate :beer:
Originally posted by: HamSupLo
how about setting up a shoutcast stream for us ATOT members? heh
Originally posted by: lnguyen
meh, come back when those are drives in raid 5... and you've managed to keep it cool and quiet otherwise... nice. heh
I wonder how long before the IT department decides to investigate the network congestion...
Originally posted by: Kenazo
good job.
Question though, why did you mount the hdd's using standoffs?
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
Originally posted by: HamSupLo
how about setting up a shoutcast stream for us ATOT members? heh
hehe...well i could put in the rest of the drives and let people use it as an ftp server, but you wont get access to the music directories it could basically be some free storage for anyone that wants it
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
Originally posted by: lnguyen
meh, come back when those are drives in raid 5... and you've managed to keep it cool and quiet otherwise... nice. heh
why would i want raid? i need the most space possible, and raid cant increase the size of the drives it is very cool. the drives arent even warm to the touch really, and its not noisy at all. the fans are 19db and the hard drives are 5400rpm. it cant get much quieter without being off.
I wonder how long before the IT department decides to investigate the network congestion...
probably a long time considering ive already talked to him about it and he said its fine. edit: by "him" i mean the head IT guy. we have gigabit in the dorm and several runs of fiber to the main distribution center. im sure the 10mb/s this thing is doing isnt really impacting the school network, especially since most of the traffic is local to my dorm and doesnt even get out to the rest of the school. there are 7 switches in the closet in my building connected to a router, and i got myself put on the first switch that feeds the rest, so it isnt switch hopping.
Originally posted by: yoda291
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
Originally posted by: lnguyen
meh, come back when those are drives in raid 5... and you've managed to keep it cool and quiet otherwise... nice. heh
why would i want raid? i need the most space possible, and raid cant increase the size of the drives it is very cool. the drives arent even warm to the touch really, and its not noisy at all. the fans are 19db and the hard drives are 5400rpm. it cant get much quieter without being off.
I wonder how long before the IT department decides to investigate the network congestion...
probably a long time considering ive already talked to him about it and he said its fine. edit: by "him" i mean the head IT guy. we have gigabit in the dorm and several runs of fiber to the main distribution center. im sure the 10mb/s this thing is doing isnt really impacting the school network, especially since most of the traffic is local to my dorm and doesnt even get out to the rest of the school. there are 7 switches in the closet in my building connected to a router, and i got myself put on the first switch that feeds the rest, so it isnt switch hopping.
you mean 100mb? Like fast ethernet?
and raid for redundancy. Tho your drives are mismatched so it's probably not worth doing raid 5 on that box.
neat.
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
i dont agree with your second statement. maybe you arent familiar with iTunes, but this does the same thing their own servers do. you can listen to songs on iTunes without paying for them. you just cant have your own copy to listen to whenever you want. this is no different...they cant download the song, only listen to it. it lets you share like this on local networks specifically for that reason...you cant steal it, but you still get to listen to it.
it is not even close to the same as a P2P server.
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
i dont agree with your second statement. maybe you arent familiar with iTunes, but this does the same thing their own servers do. you can listen to songs on iTunes without paying for them. you just cant have your own copy to listen to whenever you want. this is no different...they cant download the song, only listen to it. it lets you share like this on local networks specifically for that reason...you cant steal it, but you still get to listen to it.
it is not even close to the same as a P2P server.
Public distribution of music, which is what you're doing is probably not covered by the licence that the individual CD owners have. iTunes isn't really comparable b/c they probably have been licenced by the copyright owners to distribute the music as they are doing. So, even if someone else is doing it, it doesn't make it legal in your situation, even though it seems exactly the same.
That being said, I couldn't care less.
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
i dont agree with your second statement. maybe you arent familiar with iTunes, but this does the same thing their own servers do. you can listen to songs on iTunes without paying for them. you just cant have your own copy to listen to whenever you want. this is no different...they cant download the song, only listen to it. it lets you share like this on local networks specifically for that reason...you cant steal it, but you still get to listen to it.
it is not even close to the same as a P2P server.
Public distribution of music, which is what you're doing is probably not covered by the licence that the individual CD owners have. iTunes isn't really comparable b/c they probably have been licenced by the copyright owners to distribute the music as they are doing. So, even if someone else is doing it, it doesn't make it legal in your situation, even though it seems exactly the same.
That being said, I couldn't care less.
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
i dont agree with your second statement. maybe you arent familiar with iTunes, but this does the same thing their own servers do. you can listen to songs on iTunes without paying for them. you just cant have your own copy to listen to whenever you want. this is no different...they cant download the song, only listen to it. it lets you share like this on local networks specifically for that reason...you cant steal it, but you still get to listen to it.
it is not even close to the same as a P2P server.
Public distribution of music, which is what you're doing is probably not covered by the licence that the individual CD owners have. iTunes isn't really comparable b/c they probably have been licenced by the copyright owners to distribute the music as they are doing. So, even if someone else is doing it, it doesn't make it legal in your situation, even though it seems exactly the same.
That being said, I couldn't care less.
its not distribution though. i dont get why people think that. they arent receiving their own copy of this. its basically like having control of the song you want to play on a radio station in your car. i realize copying the CD to my server is probably illegal, but thats not really the issue here. you make a good point, but its not public distribution...its basically a client-controlled radio station.
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Arr Matey, that be a bountiful frigate for yonder booty of MP3s ye have there.
- M4H
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
i dont agree with your second statement. maybe you arent familiar with iTunes, but this does the same thing their own servers do. you can listen to songs on iTunes without paying for them. you just cant have your own copy to listen to whenever you want. this is no different...they cant download the song, only listen to it. it lets you share like this on local networks specifically for that reason...you cant steal it, but you still get to listen to it.
it is not even close to the same as a P2P server.
Public distribution of music, which is what you're doing is probably not covered by the licence that the individual CD owners have. iTunes isn't really comparable b/c they probably have been licenced by the copyright owners to distribute the music as they are doing. So, even if someone else is doing it, it doesn't make it legal in your situation, even though it seems exactly the same.
That being said, I couldn't care less.
its not distribution though. i dont get why people think that. they arent receiving their own copy of this. its basically like having control of the song you want to play on a radio station in your car. i realize copying the CD to my server is probably illegal, but thats not really the issue here. you make a good point, but its not public distribution...its basically a client-controlled radio station.
And those radio stations have a licence to do that, from the copyright owner. They also pay let's say $0.05 every time they play any song. (Keep in mind I have no ethical issue w/ what you're doing, even if it might be breaking copyright law)
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
Originally posted by: Kenazo
Originally posted by: Bigsm00th
i dont agree with your second statement. maybe you arent familiar with iTunes, but this does the same thing their own servers do. you can listen to songs on iTunes without paying for them. you just cant have your own copy to listen to whenever you want. this is no different...they cant download the song, only listen to it. it lets you share like this on local networks specifically for that reason...you cant steal it, but you still get to listen to it.
it is not even close to the same as a P2P server.
Public distribution of music, which is what you're doing is probably not covered by the licence that the individual CD owners have. iTunes isn't really comparable b/c they probably have been licenced by the copyright owners to distribute the music as they are doing. So, even if someone else is doing it, it doesn't make it legal in your situation, even though it seems exactly the same.
That being said, I couldn't care less.
its not distribution though. i dont get why people think that. they arent receiving their own copy of this. its basically like having control of the song you want to play on a radio station in your car. i realize copying the CD to my server is probably illegal, but thats not really the issue here. you make a good point, but its not public distribution...its basically a client-controlled radio station.
And those radio stations have a licence to do that, from the copyright owner. They also pay let's say $0.05 every time they play any song. (Keep in mind I have no ethical issue w/ what you're doing, even if it might be breaking copyright law)
Case #6: Downloadable music and Webcasting
Allison wants to distribute music online. She started her own Web site and makes over 100 new music downloads available to visitors each month. Allison only distributes music by independent musicians and doesn?t charge anything for downloads.
U.S. Copyright Law allows for distribution of copyrighted music?but only with the song owner?s permission. The Digital Millennium Copyright Act, states that without permission from the copyright owner, it is illegal to make music available online for unlimited distribution.
To distribute most popular music, Allison would have to contact each copyright holder individually for licensing rights. Instead, she?s chosen to offer only free downloads of fringe artists, like the Bunion Peelers, who encourage open distribution and don?t require payment.
Some sites, like EMusic.com, have the exclusive rights to sell the recordings offered on its Web site, so Allison could not offer any of these recordings without contacting EMusic. However, EMusic would welcome Allison?s linking to the EMusic.com Web site and will pay Allison a percentage of sales that result from customers using her link to the site.
What if Allison the webcaster wants to stream her favorite songs instead of offering them as downloads?
Webcasting (streaming audio) is used by Internet radio sites to transmit music and other types of audio over the Internet. Hundreds of Internet radio sites offer listeners a taste of every type of music available.
According to the Digital Performance Rights in Sound Recording Act of 1995, music copyright owners may authorize and be compensated for the digital transmission and distribution of their copyrighted work. Some artists and labels may be more flexible than others when it comes to allowing downloads and streaming of their music.
Like professional disc jockeys, Internet radio broadcasters must have permission to duplicate or transmit sound recordings. This requirement is mandated by the 1976 Copyright Act. Luckily, for webcasters and music fans alike, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act allows webcasters to obtain a statutory license for Internet broadcasts.
A statutory license is one provided by law instead of by individual copyright owners. With a statutory license, webcasters can stream all the music they want without acquiring separate licenses for each song. However, even with a statutory license, webcasters must still pay royalties on the songs they broadcast.
If Allison wants to become a licensed broadcaster and feels she can meet the criteria for a statutory license, she should contact the U.S. Copyright Office at the following address to request a statutory license:
Library of Congress, Copyright Office
Licensing Division
101 Independence Avenue, S.E.
Washington, D.C. 20557-6400
If Allison does not meet the criteria required for a statutory license, she must obtain licenses from each copyright owner for any sound recordings she wants to broadcast. Currently, there?s no organization that grants blanket licenses to webcasters who do not qualify for a statutory license. Therefore, Allison will have to contact each copyright owner individually or risk infringement liability.
Below is a list of the criteria webcasters must meet to qualify for a statutory license.
Webcasting Criteria
According to the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), webcasters must meet the following criteria. These limitations are in place to discourage listeners from downloading or copying music files for free and thereby limiting the market potential of the songs.
Sound recording performance complement: A webcaster may not play in any three-hour period more than three songs from a particular album, including no more than two consecutively, or four songs by a particular artist or from a boxed set, including no more than three consecutively.
Prior announcements not permitted: Advance song or artist playlists generally may not be published. However, webcasters may announce the names of a few artists to promote the type of music played on the site or channel. If an artist?s name is announced, the webcaster may not specify the time that artist?s song will be played.
Archived, looped and repeated programming: Programs that are performed continuously, automatically starting over when finished, may not be less than three hours in duration. Merely changing one or two songs does not meet this condition. Additional parameters for these types of programming are set by the license.
Obligation to identify song, artist and album: Beginning in October 1999, when performing a sound recording, a webcaster must identify the sound recording, the album and the featured artist.
Other conditions: In addition to the above, webcasters must meet other conditions such as accommodating technical measures, taking steps not to induce copying and not transmitting bootlegs.