Dean's New Campaign Angle

[MonstaThrilla]

Well, I just received this email from the good Doctor:

Two years ago, I got into this race to change the Democratic Party, and
to change the country.

I drove down Interstate 89 from Vermont to New Hampshire to meet with
voters face to face, with a handful of brochures in my pocket and a
conviction that our country can do better.

Something had gone wrong in our country, and Democrats were caving in to
the President and failing to offer the American people a real choice.
We had lost our way as a party.

Someone needed to stand up to President Bush on issues that matter - to
stand up against the war, against his reckless tax cuts, and against a
culture of catering to special interests at the expense of our
environment and our children.

Standing up for what I believe is what I've always done and always will
do - even when the polls say it isn't popular. I did it on civil unions
in Vermont and in opposing the war in Iraq. And I've done it in this
race for President.

Now it's time to talk more about the change that we need in our country,
and who's best positioned to make that change happen.

This race is about the future. It's about fulfilling the Promise of
America for our families and kids. And it's about which candidate has a
proven record of delivering results.

For eleven years, as Governor of Vermont, I balanced budgets; provided
health care for nearly every child in our state; expanded prescription
coverage for seniors; created 20% more jobs; and raised the minimum
wage.

We invested in Vermont's children. We lowered child abuse rates and
raised graduation rates. Teen pregnancy went way down; childhood
immunization went way up.

We did all this for Vermont's children, and now, by acting together, we
can show how to do it for all of America's families and children.

I am a doctor who's delivered health care. And as governor, I delivered
results, not just speeches.

Now the other candidates have adopted our message - they have adopted
our position on Iraq, our criticism of No Child Left Behind, and our
opposition to Bush's tax cuts.

I'm glad they've joined me. It's good for our party and good for our
country. Our message has changed the nature of this race, and our
campaign has changed American politics. And finally our party -
formerly in retreat - is standing up and offering a real alternative to
George W. Bush.

But the true test of leadership is having the courage to stand up for
what you believe when it counts - even when it's not popular. That's
the test by which I've measured my public life. And it's the test by
which I will measure my Presidency.

I hope you will stand by me as we enter this critical period in the 2004
campaign.

Governor Howard Dean, M.D.

Looks like he's doing what he should have done weeks ago and run strictly on his record as Governor of Vermont. The progress he made with the children of his state is a huge highlight, as is the fact that he's the only Governor in the race.

Enough to save him? Maybe not. But I'd rather see him go out like this than screaming about his campaign strategery...

 

[Moonbeam]

What good is a Democrat who isn't angry. Every real American should be furious and enraged with the joke who got selected President.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
What good is a Democrat who isn't angry. Every real American should be furious and enraged with the joke who got elected President.

Fixed your spelling problem

Edit - Yeah, I suppose dean can try to narrow his campaign to his record(it really isn't a "new" angle since he's tried to put it out there before) but I'm not sure he can shake the image he's created for himself.

CkG

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Well, I just received this email from the good Doctor:

Two years ago, I got into this race to change the Democratic Party, and
to change the country.

I drove down Interstate 89 from Vermont to New Hampshire to meet with
voters face to face, with a handful of brochures in my pocket and a
conviction that our country can do better.

Something had gone wrong in our country, and Democrats were caving in to
the President and failing to offer the American people a real choice.
We had lost our way as a party.

Someone needed to stand up to President Bush on issues that matter - to
stand up against the war, against his reckless tax cuts, and against a
culture of catering to special interests at the expense of our
environment and our children.

Standing up for what I believe is what I've always done and always will
do - even when the polls say it isn't popular. I did it on civil unions
in Vermont and in opposing the war in Iraq. And I've done it in this
race for President.

Now it's time to talk more about the change that we need in our country,
and who's best positioned to make that change happen.

This race is about the future. It's about fulfilling the Promise of
America for our families and kids. And it's about which candidate has a
proven record of delivering results.

For eleven years, as Governor of Vermont, I balanced budgets; provided
health care for nearly every child in our state; expanded prescription
coverage for seniors; created 20% more jobs; and raised the minimum
wage.

We invested in Vermont's children. We lowered child abuse rates and
raised graduation rates. Teen pregnancy went way down; childhood
immunization went way up.

We did all this for Vermont's children, and now, by acting together, we
can show how to do it for all of America's families and children.

I am a doctor who's delivered health care. And as governor, I delivered
results, not just speeches.

Now the other candidates have adopted our message - they have adopted
our position on Iraq, our criticism of No Child Left Behind, and our
opposition to Bush's tax cuts.

I'm glad they've joined me. It's good for our party and good for our
country. Our message has changed the nature of this race, and our
campaign has changed American politics. And finally our party -
formerly in retreat - is standing up and offering a real alternative to
George W. Bush.

But the true test of leadership is having the courage to stand up for
what you believe when it counts - even when it's not popular. That's
the test by which I've measured my public life. And it's the test by
which I will measure my Presidency.

I hope you will stand by me as we enter this critical period in the 2004
campaign.

Governor Howard Dean, M.D.

Looks like he's doing what he should have done weeks ago and run strictly on his record as Governor of Vermont. The progress he made with the children of his state is a huge highlight, as is the fact that he's the only Governor in the race.

Enough to save him? Maybe not. But I'd rather see him go out like this than screaming about his campaign strategery...

If he wants to run on his record, he needs to unseal everything. Which he wont do, because if he did, it would end any chance he had.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

If he wants to run on his record, he needs to unseal everything. Which he wont do, because if he did, it would end any chance he had.

Just admit you know nothing about the TRUE story behind the whole thing. What do you think they contain? That he killed someone and the location of the body? Maybe that he likes to eat babies. I'll just repeat some facts about his tenure:

For eleven years, as Governor of Vermont, I balanced budgets; provided
health care for nearly every child in our state; expanded prescription
coverage for seniors; created 20% more jobs; and raised the minimum
wage.

We invested in Vermont's children. We lowered child abuse rates and
raised graduation rates. Teen pregnancy went way down; childhood
immunization went way up.

We did all this for Vermont's children, and now, by acting together, we
can show how to do it for all of America's families and children.

That's what he's running on, and he ain't unsealing his surely diabolical records. It's already become a nonissue.

 

[Moonbeam]

If he wants to run on his record, he needs to unseal everything. Which he wont do, because if he did, it would end any chance he had.

------------
Yup, he's way short on the number of retards he killed by lethal injectio

And Bush was selected because the vote was never counted. The real President was prevented from taking office by a right winded coup in the court. The votes got counted later.

 

[Medellon]

Quote:
____________________________________________________________
Standing up for what I believe is what I've always done and always will
do - even when the polls say it isn't popular. I did it on civil unions
in Vermont and in opposing the war in Iraq. And I've done it in this
race for President.
____________________________________________________________

Great just what we need for a President, someone who doesn't listen to his constituents or the American people. But if he feels it's right to hell with what the people he represents think! A majority of people support the war in Iraq and do not believe in civil unions but Howard Dean does and he must have all the answers and know what's best for you and I.

 

[Mail5398]

Votes got counted later? Bullsh*t Give me an example of a independent group that counted them citing Gore won Florida and I will bow to your intellectual superiority. The only people counting had agendas. If you count stray marks Gore wins. If you only count what was actually punched Bush wins.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Mail5398
Votes got counted later? Bullsh*t Give me an example of a independent group that counted them citing Gore won Florida and I will bow to your intellectual superiority. The only people counting had agendas. If you count stray marks Gore wins. If you only count what was actually punched Bush wins.

Nevermind moonie - he likes to crap in any thread he can with this 2000 election tripe. He won't start a new thread on it so we can settle this once and for all. Heck - I tried to create a thread so people had a place to yap about it - moonie didn't see it necessary to participate. He just goes along leaving these droppings in any thread he can - it's pretty sad really.

CkG

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Mail5398
Votes got counted later? Bullsh*t Give me an example of a independent group that counted them citing Gore won Florida and I will bow to your intellectual superiority. The only people counting had agendas. If you count stray marks Gore wins. If you only count what was actually punched Bush wins.

Nevermind moonie - he likes to crap in any thread he can with this 2000 election tripe. He won't start a new thread on it so we can settle this once and for all. Heck - I tried to create a thread so people had a place to yap about it - moonie didn't see it necessary to participate. He just goes along leaving these droppings in any thread he can - it's pretty sad really.

CkG

Yup, like a dog I crap where I please and PooperScooperCaddy cleans up after me. Isn't he wonderful. Caddy has a little button on his forehead you can push to play:

"Nevermind moonie - he likes to crap in any thread he can with this 2000 election tripe. He won't start a new thread on it so we can settle this once and for all. Heck - I tried to create a thread so people had a place to yap about it - moonie didn't see it necessary to participate. He just goes along leaving these droppings in any thread he can - it's pretty sad really."

in an endless varity of ways. All of his bellyaches were answered but he could never get up to speed. Bush counts on people like that.

Gore Won. It's ok Caddy. I know you feel ashamed, but you needn't be. It only gets in your way. Sh!t happens when money buys the vote. Sad though that in your ignorance you support the wrong side. But you can't change the past. You can only wake up now. Good luck. Practice saying: Gore Won.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Mail5398
Votes got counted later? Bullsh*t Give me an example of a independent group that counted them citing Gore won Florida and I will bow to your intellectual superiority. The only people counting had agendas. If you count stray marks Gore wins. If you only count what was actually punched Bush wins.

Nevermind moonie - he likes to crap in any thread he can with this 2000 election tripe. He won't start a new thread on it so we can settle this once and for all. Heck - I tried to create a thread so people had a place to yap about it - moonie didn't see it necessary to participate. He just goes along leaving these droppings in any thread he can - it's pretty sad really.

CkG

Yup, like a dog I crap where I please and PooperScooperCaddy cleans up after me. Isn't he wonderful. Caddy has a little button on his forehead you can push to play:

"Nevermind moonie - he likes to crap in any thread he can with this 2000 election tripe. He won't start a new thread on it so we can settle this once and for all. Heck - I tried to create a thread so people had a place to yap about it - moonie didn't see it necessary to participate. He just goes along leaving these droppings in any thread he can - it's pretty sad really."

in an endless varity of ways. All of his bellyaches were answered but he could never get up to speed. Bush counts on people like that.

Gore Won. It's ok Caddy. I know you feel ashamed, but you needn't be. It only gets in your way. Sh!t happens when money buys the vote. Sad though that in your ignorance you support the wrong side. But you can't change the past. You can only wake up now. Good luck. Practice saying: Gore Won.

Yep - keep pooping out more election 2000 turds.

Someday you'll see the light, someday you'll understand reality. We all have hope, don't we?

CkG

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Mail5398
Votes got counted later? Bullsh*t Give me an example of a independent group that counted them citing Gore won Florida and I will bow to your intellectual superiority. The only people counting had agendas. If you count stray marks Gore wins. If you only count what was actually punched Bush wins.

Nevermind moonie - he likes to crap in any thread he can with this 2000 election tripe. He won't start a new thread on it so we can settle this once and for all. Heck - I tried to create a thread so people had a place to yap about it - moonie didn't see it necessary to participate. He just goes along leaving these droppings in any thread he can - it's pretty sad really.

CkG

Yup, like a dog I crap where I please and PooperScooperCaddy cleans up after me. Isn't he wonderful. Caddy has a little button on his forehead you can push to play:

"Nevermind moonie - he likes to crap in any thread he can with this 2000 election tripe. He won't start a new thread on it so we can settle this once and for all. Heck - I tried to create a thread so people had a place to yap about it - moonie didn't see it necessary to participate. He just goes along leaving these droppings in any thread he can - it's pretty sad really."

in an endless varity of ways. All of his bellyaches were answered but he could never get up to speed. Bush counts on people like that.

Gore Won. It's ok Caddy. I know you feel ashamed, but you needn't be. It only gets in your way. Sh!t happens when money buys the vote. Sad though that in your ignorance you support the wrong side. But you can't change the past. You can only wake up now. Good luck. Practice saying: Gore Won.

Yep - keep pooping out more election 2000 turds.

Someday you'll see the light, someday you'll understand reality. We all have hope, don't we?

CkG

Since you ask, life didn't really begin for me till I lost all hope. When you loose all hope encluding any hope for hope you get something much better.

 

[Morbius]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
If he wants to run on his record, he needs to unseal everything. Which he wont do, because if he did, it would end any chance he had.

------------
Yup, he's way short on the number of retards he killed by lethal injectio

And Bush was selected because the vote was never counted. The real President was prevented from taking office by a right winded coup in the court. The votes got counted later.

Of course, when they counted those votes 8 times, Bush won each and every time. So the REAL President is sitting in the White House today.

 

[sMiLeYz]

Bush won... right.... ANYONE REMOTELY IN TOUCH WITH FACTS... would know about....

Every convinently forgot Katherine Harris removed "1 million" black people, I mean "felons" from the ballot. 90% of blacks in florida were democrats. The NCAAP sued and won against this discrimination suit.

Or that a electronic "error" with electronic voting machines cost Gore 22,000 thousand votes.

Bush only won by a count of less than 600 votes that were still not 40% done counting, that was before the Supreme Court stepped in and declared Bush winner by one vote.

Furthermore, why would Bush be the FIRST US PRESIDENT IN HISTORY to not allow UN fair-elections inspectors to do their job, or heck even in the country?

You can all google this information, it happen to have come from NYT, This video
and this book

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Bush won... right.... ANYONE REMOTELY IN TOUCH WITH FACTS... would know about....

Every convinently forgot Katherine Harris removed "1 million" black people, I mean "felons" from the ballot. 90% of blacks in florida were democrats. The NCAAP sued and won against this discrimination suit.

Or that a electronic "error" with electronic voting machines cost Gore 22,000 thousand votes.

Bush only won by a count of less than 600 votes that were still not 40% done counting, that was before the Supreme Court stepped in and declared Bush winner by one vote.

Furthermore, why would Bush be the FIRST US PRESIDENT IN HISTORY to not allow UN fair-elections inspectors to do their job, or heck even in the country?

You can all google this information, it happen to have come from NYT, This video
and this book

That's nice and all, but you and moonie can troll in some other thread. No need to drop any more election 2000 turds in this thread - especially since moonie doesn't ever want to really debate this subject.

Anyway - back to dean and his "new" angle. That is - if you can find your way into the year 2004 instead of reliving the end of 2000 over and over and over.

CkG

 

[daniel1113]

And Bush was selected because the vote was never counted. The real President was prevented from taking office by a right winded coup in the court. The votes got counted later.[/quote]

Bush is the real president. In fact, he is YOUR president.

 

[MonstaThrilla]

Uggh, my thread has been ruined. Thanks to Cad for trying to clean it up. Way to stay on topic Daniel, AFTER it seemed like Cad set everyone straight.

 

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: Medellon
Quote:
____________________________________________________________
Standing up for what I believe is what I've always done and always will
do - even when the polls say it isn't popular. I did it on civil unions
in Vermont and in opposing the war in Iraq. And I've done it in this
race for President.
____________________________________________________________

Great just what we need for a President, someone who doesn't listen to his constituents or the American people. But if he feels it's right to hell with what the people he represents think! A majority of people support the war in Iraq and do not believe in civil unions but Howard Dean does and he must have all the answers and know what's best for you and I.

A majority of the people didn't elect Bush ( nor did a majority chose Gore in the popular vote but he had a plurality).
A majority of the people dislike being lied to by the President.

Shall I continue or would you rather just accept the fact you're a f****** idiot.

And I'm so happy you care about what the majority of the people say when they agree on a issue you believe in. Funny, becase, most likely, in 2000 you probably weren't advocating for the 50,999,897 ( a plurality ) people who felt cheated.

 

[Dari]

It's a sad day when people keep looking into the past as opposed to a bright future.

There's no need to read Moonbeam's sh!t-stained rants. He's a paranoid fatalist who yearns for mass suicide, with him at the helm.

 

[Moonbeam]

Hehe, poor Dari; it doesn't take much to flush his hand.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Morbius

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
If he wants to run on his record, he needs to unseal everything. Which he wont do, because if he did, it would end any chance he had.

------------
Yup, he's way short on the number of retards he killed by lethal injectio

And Bush was selected because the vote was never counted. The real President was prevented from taking office by a right winded coup in the court. The votes got counted later.

Of course, when they counted those votes 8 times, Bush won each and every time. So the REAL President is sitting in the White House today.

Another ignorant brainwashed dreamer blinded bu the dorporate media. The votes were never recounted, the counts were resubmitted. A reacount was done after the election. The published report was that bush won in the senarios that Gore tried to challenge, but the story that was burried was that of the total state wide legal vote, Gore won. Gore was the winner of the Florida election according to the Ballots. Gore won. Caddy like to yammer on about me not doing a thread, I did them threads a million times back when all this happened. I like to shine Caddy on cause it shows that no proof can convince a fool so you don't bother to try. Thinking people who are willing to look and read know that Gore won. I know how painful it is to fancy yourself a member of the party of character and know you're in there by fraud abd that your man really lost. But isn't it obvious. Look how mad God is at us. George has made a mess.

 

[dmcowen674]

Looks like they put Dean on Valium.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: Mail5398
Votes got counted later? Bullsh*t Give me an example of a independent group that counted them citing Gore won Florida and I will bow to your intellectual superiority. The only people counting had agendas. If you count stray marks Gore wins. If you only count what was actually punched Bush wins.

Nevermind moonie - he likes to crap in any thread he can with this 2000 election tripe. He won't start a new thread on it so we can settle this once and for all. Heck - I tried to create a thread so people had a place to yap about it - moonie didn't see it necessary to participate. He just goes along leaving these droppings in any thread he can - it's pretty sad really.

CkG

Yup, like a dog I crap where I please and PooperScooperCaddy cleans up after me. Isn't he wonderful. Caddy has a little button on his forehead you can push to play:

"Nevermind moonie - he likes to crap in any thread he can with this 2000 election tripe. He won't start a new thread on it so we can settle this once and for all. Heck - I tried to create a thread so people had a place to yap about it - moonie didn't see it necessary to participate. He just goes along leaving these droppings in any thread he can - it's pretty sad really."

in an endless varity of ways. All of his bellyaches were answered but he could never get up to speed. Bush counts on people like that.

Gore Won. It's ok Caddy. I know you feel ashamed, but you needn't be. It only gets in your way. Sh!t happens when money buys the vote. Sad though that in your ignorance you support the wrong side. But you can't change the past. You can only wake up now. Good luck. Practice saying: Gore Won.

The loser of the fight always seem to always spout rigamarole in denial while riding in the WAAAAAAAAHmbulance from having his ego crushed. And how sad, an alcoholic who's had 5 beers in an hour driving home pulled over by the police. "Officer, the breathalizer is wrong, I can function just fine!" "Sorry sir, but you're over the LEGAL limit, we're taking you down to the station, you're busted." "But officer, no way it can be right! I can even say the alphabet backwards!"

And then we all got to read about it in the paper the next day!

 

[Red Dawn]

He sounded like your typical red Sox Fan

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
He sounded like your typical red Sox Fan

LoL... I was actually thinking that too, what a coincidence... "We should have won against the Yankees! OMG it's the ump's fault for calling strikes balls, we really won wahhhh!"

Being a Sox fan myself, I didn't want to use it as an example, but I know many who act like that (Lager - who changed his name to Coldcut - comes to mind).