Defending the PS3

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fs5

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Jun 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Amol
Originally posted by: fs5
selling 70k versus 17k is dominating. Selling roughly 4 times the amount of your competitor is dominating

Hardware sales for Japan December 11th - 17th

You're looking at 7 days of sale. We're looking at total sales.
I couldn't find total console sales. but I'm pretty sure PS3 has a larger install base than 360 in japan right now. By far too.
 

michaels

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Nov 30, 2005
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of course, but the 360 and wii are kicking ass every where else. japan isn't the market it once was.
 

Queasy

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Aug 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: fs5
Originally posted by: Amol
Originally posted by: fs5
selling 70k versus 17k is dominating. Selling roughly 4 times the amount of your competitor is dominating

Hardware sales for Japan December 11th - 17th

You're looking at 7 days of sale. We're looking at total sales.
I couldn't find total console sales. but I'm pretty sure PS3 has a larger install base than 360 in japan right now. By far too.

In Japan yes. Worldwide, no. Nobody expected the 360 to ever lead in Japan...in fact, it wasn't until just recently that 360 sales really got at this level (Blue Dragon released).

All consoles are getting their rears handed to them by the DS though.
 

RGUN

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Dec 11, 2005
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Originally posted by: michaels
Gt was my sole reason to own a PS2, then along came Forza, I then sold my PS2. It's sad when a part 1 of a series brings more to the table than a part 4.


Lol, quite possibly the stupidest thing Ive ever read on here. So you're saying Forza shouldnt have learned from its competitors and should have made a game equivalent to the first GT and worked up from there?
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: fs5
When did $ony bashing become cool?

rootkits..... nuf said

Beginning of the end for me, with proprietary formats a close second. I just never realized how everything SONY did this in the past, or how much it irritates me.

Proprietary FTL.
 

fs5

Lifer
Jun 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Queasy
In Japan yes. Worldwide, no. Nobody expected the 360 to ever lead in Japan...in fact, it wasn't until just recently that 360 sales really got at this level (Blue Dragon released).

All consoles are getting their rears handed to them by the DS though.
We can't tell worldwide since 360 almost has a year head start on PS3. But my original argument was as long as it dominates the Japanese market Japanese publishers will support it. That's all I was simply saying.
 

Queasy

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Aug 24, 2001
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Originally posted by: fs5
Originally posted by: Queasy
In Japan yes. Worldwide, no. Nobody expected the 360 to ever lead in Japan...in fact, it wasn't until just recently that 360 sales really got at this level (Blue Dragon released).

All consoles are getting their rears handed to them by the DS though.
We can't tell worldwide since 360 almost has a year head start on PS3. But my original argument was as long as it dominates the Japanese market Japanese publishers will support it. That's all I was simply saying.

I won't disagree with that. The 360 is gaining in Japanese publisher support which is their main goal for the Japanese market.
 

michaels

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Nov 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: RGUN
Originally posted by: michaels
Gt was my sole reason to own a PS2, then along came Forza, I then sold my PS2. It's sad when a part 1 of a series brings more to the table than a part 4.


Lol, quite possibly the stupidest thing Ive ever read on here. So you're saying Forza shouldnt have learned from its competitors and should have made a game equivalent to the first GT and worked up from there?

I think you are misunderstanding me. Forza is superior to all of the GT's.
 

ElFenix

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i'd like to point out that ign names an expensive sony LCD hdtv as best panel hdtv, rather than a plasma model, when a similarly expensive plasma will blow any lcd hdtv out of the water.
 

Dacalo

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Actually, OP, MGS won't be a PS3 exclusive, it's coming to Xbox 360 as well. I also read an article that Square-Enix does not want PS3 to gain too much momentum with its products, so the company will be spreading the love to other platforms as well.

I do enjoy Japanese-developer-made games more than the U.S. ones as well, and that is a formidable weapon for PS3.
 

fs5

Lifer
Jun 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: ElFenix
i'd like to point out that ign names an expensive sony LCD hdtv as best panel hdtv, rather than a plasma model, when a similarly expensive plasma will blow any lcd hdtv out of the water.
screen life? Heat issues? I don't know... I think DLP > plasma/lcd anyway
 

Sphexi

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Nobody takes IGN that seriously anymore, corporate payoffs are a b1tch.
 

fs5

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Jun 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Dacalo
Actually, OP, MGS won't be PS3 exclusive, it's coming to Xbox 360 as well.
where did you read this? I keep hearing it but I don't know where people are getting this info from.
 

thesurge

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Originally posted by: Sphexi
Nobody takes IGN that seriously anymore, corporate payoffs are a b1tch.

Same with GameSpot, right? Since they gave LOZ:TP an 8.8?
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: fs5
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Actually, OP, MGS won't be PS3 exclusive, it's coming to Xbox 360 as well.
where did you read this? I keep hearing it but I don't know where people are getting this info from.

It's a pure rumor at this point that the MGS developers came out and denied. I'm thinking it'll probably be a timed exclusive like previous MGS games though.
 

thesurge

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Originally posted by: michaels
Originally posted by: RGUN
Originally posted by: michaels
Gt was my sole reason to own a PS2, then along came Forza, I then sold my PS2. It's sad when a part 1 of a series brings more to the table than a part 4.


Lol, quite possibly the stupidest thing Ive ever read on here. So you're saying Forza shouldnt have learned from its competitors and should have made a game equivalent to the first GT and worked up from there?

I think you are misunderstanding me. Forza is superior to all of the GT's.

Your comment still doesn't make any sense. Why is it "sad", if that's what you weren't implying?
 

Kelvrick

Lifer
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Originally posted by: RGUN
Originally posted by: michaels
Gt was my sole reason to own a PS2, then along came Forza, I then sold my PS2. It's sad when a part 1 of a series brings more to the table than a part 4.


Lol, quite possibly the stupidest thing Ive ever read on here. So you're saying Forza shouldnt have learned from its competitors and should have made a game equivalent to the first GT and worked up from there?

Quite possibly the stupidest job reading a post on here?

His post is saying Forza 1 > GT4. Notice how he says he got the PS2 for GT, but then sold it when forza came out? He SOLD the ps2.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: fs5
When did $ony bashing become cool?

rootkits..... nuf said

yea rootkits, excessive hype, love of drm, pushing proprietary formats etc... sony = riaa+mpaa! say what you will about microsoft, but they aren't involved in sueing customers for $150,000 a song.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: fs5
Originally posted by: ElFenix
i'd like to point out that ign names an expensive sony LCD hdtv as best panel hdtv, rather than a plasma model, when a similarly expensive plasma will blow any lcd hdtv out of the water.
screen life? Heat issues? I don't know... I think DLP > plasma/lcd anyway

black levels, color accuracy, viewing angles, performance with SD content?

the screen life thing is overrated. current plasmas aren't any worse than CRTs. and my plasma doesn't seem that warm. not any more warm in any one spot than my dell LCD.
 

thesurge

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Dec 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: RGUN
Originally posted by: michaels
Gt was my sole reason to own a PS2, then along came Forza, I then sold my PS2. It's sad when a part 1 of a series brings more to the table than a part 4.


Lol, quite possibly the stupidest thing Ive ever read on here. So you're saying Forza shouldnt have learned from its competitors and should have made a game equivalent to the first GT and worked up from there?

Quite possibly the stupidest job reading a post on here?

His post is saying Forza 1 > GT4. Notice how he says he got the PS2 for GT, but then sold it when forza came out? He SOLD the ps2.

self-ownage quoted.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: ryan256
Originally posted by: fs5
When did $ony bashing become cool?

rootkits..... nuf said

yea rootkits, excessive hype, love of drm, pushing proprietary formats etc... sony = riaa+mpaa! say what you will about microsoft, but they aren't involved in sueing customers for $150,000 a song.


yeah. its sad when its a choice of the lesser of the 2 evils. sigh but i have more respect for MS then Sony.

but sony has more RPG's so will most likely get one someday
 

MmmSkyscraper

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Jul 6, 2004
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Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: RGUN
Originally posted by: michaels
Gt was my sole reason to own a PS2, then along came Forza, I then sold my PS2. It's sad when a part 1 of a series brings more to the table than a part 4.


Lol, quite possibly the stupidest thing Ive ever read on here. So you're saying Forza shouldnt have learned from its competitors and should have made a game equivalent to the first GT and worked up from there?

Quite possibly the stupidest job reading a post on here?

His post is saying Forza 1 > GT4. Notice how he says he got the PS2 for GT, but then sold it when forza came out? He SOLD the ps2.

It burnnnnssss!!!!!!
 

MazerRackham

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Apr 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: JS80
My friend had a Neo Geo when I was in 6th grade.
He must have been the baddest, and richest kid in town because that thing was $600 and $200 PER GAME. I know, I drooled over it every time I walked by it.

And let me tell you, that was $600 BACK THEN.

I had a friend who had a Neo Geo as well. What rocked so hard about Neo Geo was that the games were EXACTLY the same as the aracde games. Not ports. That effing rocked. He had some crap games, but then he also had Samuri Showdown (the first one). OMFG that game was awesome. I still miss playing it now. Most fun I EVER had playing 1v1 fighting game. I should look and see what they are going for on eBay!
 
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