No, they can do what they wish and they don't have the obligation to be honest to anyone, I was just making my point that I feel a lot of MJ users really are "druggies" whereas most Tylenol-takers are not, since a few people tried to make it seem like they were synonymous.Originally posted by: BroeBo
Originally posted by: archcommus
That is true, there is no chemical addiction. Again, I did not say they were lying, I said I do in fact wonder how many are telling the truth.Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: archcommus
18 and some small town you've never heard of. I'd agree with the 65% number someone mentioned, but that doesn't mean I think it's normal.Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: archcommus
I'm amazed so many people are thrilled by this, is this thread filled with a bunch of druggies?
Where do you live and how old are you?
*edit* I mean what city.
You're not a druggie by taking Tylenol. You would be if you took it everyday even if you had no pain. You're not a druggie by enjoying a drink once in awhile. You are if you drink many drinks daily. You're not a druggie if you enjoy the occasional joint. You are if you smoke daily. I wonder how many of those that "only enjoy the occasional joint" are telling the truth.
I prefer to keep my judgemental attitude wide out in the open, thank you.
Why would you wonder if people that smoke occasionally are lying? Marijuana is less addictive than alcohol or cigarettes by a wide margin. In fact, addiction to marijuana is a behavioral addiction, not a chemical addiction, like alcohol or nicotine. If you've ever seen an alcoholic in detox going through delirium tremens, you'd understand what I'm talking about. I've even heard it suggested (by MDs and PhDs in my field) that detoxing from alcoholism is more difficult and more dangerous than heroin detox.
<--Neuroscience grad student
Honestly, does it really matter?
Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.
Originally posted by: meltdown75
an ounce is quite a large amount for personal use in my opinion. for comparison's sake, i believe the amount you are allowed to walk around with in Amsterdam is 30 grams - an oz. is 28.
interestingly enough, small time dealers usually deal in ounces - they get their ounce and sling 3 quarters or 6 eighths which essentially enables them to smoke for free. so this decision would in theory enable these small dealers to operate without fear of getting busted for possession as long as they were within 1 oz on their person at all times.
i support the decision but i think they should have max'd the personal amount to 10 grams instead of 28 - this would limit the dealing possibilities a little more.
although, i'm wondering where all this weed is going to some from. if they still plan on keeping trafficking illegal, they're going to have their hands full.
Originally posted by: Anubis
by dissagreeing with the statement you quoted obviously
saying someone who smokes occasionally is a druggie is like saying tha someone that as a beer is an alcholoic
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: Anubis
by dissagreeing with the statement you quoted obviously
saying someone who smokes occasionally is a druggie is like saying tha someone that as a beer is an alcholoic
I missed where i said that.
By saying I was ignorant, that was disagreeing, and I was saying the occasional whatever is NOT being a druggie.Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: Anubis
by dissagreeing with the statement you quoted obviously
saying someone who smokes occasionally is a druggie is like saying tha someone that as a beer is an alcholoic
I missed where i said that.
Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.
But most, if not all states have lowered the BAC limit to the point that most people are legally impaired after one beer. What makes you think alcohol laws won't work on marijuana?
I didn't, read the damn post!Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: Anubis
by dissagreeing with the statement you quoted obviously
saying someone who smokes occasionally is a druggie is like saying tha someone that as a beer is an alcholoic
I missed where i said that.
You didn't, archcommus did.
Originally posted by: Anubis
by dissagreeing with the statement you quoted obviously
saying someone who smokes occasionally is a druggie is like saying tha someone that as a beer is an alcholoic
Originally posted by: archcommus
I didn't, read the damn post!Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: Anubis
by dissagreeing with the statement you quoted obviously
saying someone who smokes occasionally is a druggie is like saying tha someone that as a beer is an alcholoic
I missed where i said that.
You didn't, archcommus did.
Sorry, but I can tell already my opinion will be misread and skewed all day long.Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: archcommus
I didn't, read the damn post!Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: Anubis
by dissagreeing with the statement you quoted obviously
saying someone who smokes occasionally is a druggie is like saying tha someone that as a beer is an alcholoic
I missed where i said that.
You didn't, archcommus did.
Ouch, relax!
Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: archcommus
I didn't, read the damn post!Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: Anubis
by dissagreeing with the statement you quoted obviously
saying someone who smokes occasionally is a druggie is like saying tha someone that as a beer is an alcholoic
I missed where i said that.
You didn't, archcommus did.
Ouch, relax!
Originally posted by: BroeBo
Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: archcommus
I didn't, read the damn post!Originally posted by: DingDingDao
Originally posted by: buck
Originally posted by: Anubis
by dissagreeing with the statement you quoted obviously
saying someone who smokes occasionally is a druggie is like saying tha someone that as a beer is an alcholoic
I missed where i said that.
You didn't, archcommus did.
Ouch, relax!
Someone might benefit from a little toke now and then
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.
I disagree. Watching a program the other day which was one of those where a camera crew follows some police officers around, this copper stopped next to a guy sitting in his car down a country lane. They gave the guy a bit of questioning/grief and he duly admitted that he had had a joint in the car. The copper searched the car but found no drugs. They let the guy go. The cop said (paraphrased):
"Well, the guy's had a joint, but that doesn't neccessarily mean he's incapacitated [the guy was acting in a normal, alert manner], so we've decided to let him go".
I was suprised, but the police are trained to use their brains/discretion (at least over here in the UK, I daresay that if the same happened in the US and the chap had been black, he'd probably have been arrested/shot).
Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Ok so you're allowed to have an ounce or less but where do you get it from? Grow it yourself? How can you grow an ounce or less of MJ? Get it from your regular dealer? Well, chances are he's got a lot more than an ounce to distribute. . .It makes no sense, this law.
Originally posted by: buck
My point was that by his statements, he has no idea what druggies or drug problems are. Pot is nothing, its less of a problem than alcohol. Come back when you get out in the real world and experience real drug problems.
Originally posted by: Bulldog13
Originally posted by: buck
My point was that by his statements, he has no idea what druggies or drug problems are. Pot is nothing, its less of a problem than alcohol. Come back when you get out in the real world and experience real drug problems.
QFT. I do IT support for a few rehab places.
To a real "druggie" pot is as much of a drug as anti-perspirant.
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Originally posted by: aswedc
Open your eyes. I'd put marijuana use among 18-22 year olds (college age) around 65%. 22-30 maybe 45% only because of drug screenings at work. I meet all sorts of people every week who smoke....but they won't talk about it unless they think you do too!Originally posted by: archcommus
I'm amazed so many people are thrilled by this, is this thread filled with a bunch of druggies?
Seriously.
I hope ecstasy is next because that is also a very fun drug
Cocaine...um...maybe legalize it, not sure if I want to try that but if it were legal I might just once
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.
I disagree. Watching a program the other day which was one of those where a camera crew follows some police officers around, this copper stopped next to a guy sitting in his car down a country lane. They gave the guy a bit of questioning/grief and he duly admitted that he had had a joint in the car. The copper searched the car but found no drugs. They let the guy go. The cop said (paraphrased):
"Well, the guy's had a joint, but that doesn't neccessarily mean he's incapacitated [the guy was acting in a normal, alert manner], so we've decided to let him go".
I was suprised, but the police are trained to use their brains/discretion (at least over here in the UK, I daresay that if the same happened in the US and the chap had been black, he'd probably have been arrested/shot).
Oh yes, I forgot that Europe is an enlightened society where racial injustice NEVER occurs. What makes you so sure he'd be arrested?
Again, I grew up around it, but whatever. Whether it's "only pot" or not, if you do it everyday like it's some kind of SNACK, you're a druggie!Originally posted by: buck
My point was that by his statements, he has no idea what druggies or drug problems are. Pot is nothing, its less of a problem than alcohol. Come back when you get out in the real world and experience real drug problems.
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: Ryan
Originally posted by: loic2003
Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.
I disagree. Watching a program the other day which was one of those where a camera crew follows some police officers around, this copper stopped next to a guy sitting in his car down a country lane. They gave the guy a bit of questioning/grief and he duly admitted that he had had a joint in the car. The copper searched the car but found no drugs. They let the guy go. The cop said (paraphrased):
"Well, the guy's had a joint, but that doesn't neccessarily mean he's incapacitated [the guy was acting in a normal, alert manner], so we've decided to let him go".
I was suprised, but the police are trained to use their brains/discretion (at least over here in the UK, I daresay that if the same happened in the US and the chap had been black, he'd probably have been arrested/shot).
Oh yes, I forgot that Europe is an enlightened society where racial injustice NEVER occurs. What makes you so sure he'd be arrested?
Ok, apologies, maybe I went a bit far. The cops in the US do seem to be more gung-ho than our euro counterparts. An interesting documentary was played a couple of days ago about the katrina 'relief effort'. Apparantly there were cops going about in their boats with their guns (one even had a bayonette???!?!?) on display, basically looking for people to shoot.
A doctor fromt he area said he did not treat a single person who had been attacked, raped or injured by another person. People just wanted help.
I think this is what moore is going to cash in on.