Denver legalizes marijuana!

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DENVER (AP) -- Residents of the Mile High City have voted to legalize the possession of small amounts of marijuana for adults. Authorities, though, said state possession laws will be applied instead.

With 100 percent of precincts reporting early Wednesday, 54 percent, or 56,001 voters, cast ballots for the ordinance, while 46 percent, or 48,632 voters, voted against it.

Under the measure, residents over 21 years old could possess up to an ounce of marijuana.

"We educated voters about the facts that marijuana is less harmful to the user and society than alcohol," said Mason Tvert, campaign organizer for SAFER, or Safer Alternatives For Enjoyable Recreation. "To prohibit adults from making the rational, safer choice to use marijuana is bad public policy."

Bruce Mirken of the Washington-based Marijuana Policy Project said he hoped the approval will launch a national trend toward legalizing a drug whose enforcement he said causes more problems than it cures.

Seattle, Oakland, California, and a few college towns already have laws making possession the lowest law enforcement priority.

The Denver proposal seemed to draw at least as much attention for supporters' campaign tactics as it did for the question of legalizing the drug.

Tvert argued that legalizing marijuana would reduce consumption of alcohol, which he said leads to higher rates of car accidents, domestic and street violence and crime.

The group criticized Mayor John Hickenlooper for opposing the proposal, noting his ownership of a popular brewpub. It also said recent violent crimes -- including the shootings of four people last weekend -- as a reason to legalize marijuana to steer people away from alcohol use.

Those tactics angered local officials and some voters. Opponents also said it made no sense to prevent prosecution by Denver authorities while marijuana charges are most often filed under state and federal law.

The measure would not affect the medical marijuana law voters approved in 2000. In June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that medical marijuana laws in Colorado and nine other states would not protect licensed users from federal prosecution
 

DingDingDao

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wait, so it's legal to possess marijuana in small amounts by city ordinance, but it would still be illegal by state law? I don't understand...
 

ThePresence

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They can't reverse federal law witha local election, so it's almost meaningless, I think. Am I wrong?
 

Ilmater

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FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.
 

DingDingDao

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
They can't reverse federal law witha local election, so it's almost meaningless, I think. Am I wrong?

You're thinking along the same lines as me...how exactly will this work? If I see a city cop, I don't have to worry, but if I see a state trooper or something, I need to run?
 

DingDingDao

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.

myth. I know plenty of people that are VERY impaired after two beers (and a few super-lightweights that are impaired after one, even)
 

Brutuskend

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.

I disagree.
 

Hammerhead

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect.

I think there are a lot of dependencies on that statement. Tolerance, body weight, etc...
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.

But most, if not all states have lowered the BAC limit to the point that most people are legally impaired after one beer. What makes you think alcohol laws won't work on marijuana?
 

DougK62

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah

 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
They can't reverse federal law witha local election, so it's almost meaningless, I think. Am I wrong?

I would chalk it up as symbolic. As more and more cities pass things like this, it shows support for a decriminalizing movement. This in turn will be noticed by Senators and Representatives, who will promptly ignore it because there's no legitimate marijuana business to line their pockets.
 

DingDingDao

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: ThePresence
They can't reverse federal law witha local election, so it's almost meaningless, I think. Am I wrong?

I would chalk it up as symbolic. As more and more cities pass things like this, it shows support for a decriminalizing movement. This in turn will be noticed by Senators and Representatives, who will promptly ignore it because there's no legitimate marijuana business to line their pockets.

:laugh: funny 'cause it's true...
 

BabaBooey

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.


Please stop posting...:roll:


Thanks anyways professor ...:laugh:
 

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.

i take it you have never been high before
 

Hammerhead

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Well, there goes the Denver Broncos' winning record. I guess Ricky Williams will try to get on the roster.
 

Soccerman06

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.

You dont really know what your talking about do you? Most people I know that smoke have to take a few Js (joints) just to get a buz, and they dont even smoke that often. From what Ive seen around smokers, Marijuana actually makes them more aware of their surroundings. Ive been in cars multiple times where the driver had smoked a little (better someone stoned than drunk, couldnt find DD) and was actually a better driver than he was sober because he was more aware of the surrounding eviornment. But thats all my opinion.
 

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Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.

No, I dont drink much at all, but I can drink one newcastle and get a buzz, I weigh 120lbs.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: Brutuskend
Originally posted by: Ilmater
FACT: You are impared after one joint, but one or two beers have nearly zero affect. This fact will always keep Mary Jane illegal.

I disagree.


Ditto!

I don't drink hardly at all and I feel a good buzz after 2 beers!.


Ausm
 
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