Details on ios7

[Ns1]

LOL! Quite possibly the most round-about, dumb ass way anyone could possibly transfer a shit-ton of photos. Yes, every time she snaps a photo- and especially all the lousy ones- I want them eating through mobile data. To say nothing about how efficient that is, vs. a simple file transfer.

Go to wifi area, hit dropbox, wait a few minutes. Go to computer, go to dropbox folder, done.

no wires needed, no data burned.

settings bro, how do they work:





we can agree to disagree; after years of trying to find a workable solution to getting photos automatically from my phone to the computer in a brainless fashion, I found dropbox to be the most efficient. It's zero work, zero thought.

I agree with your complaints on the file system, but the question you posed was regarding photos, not other files.

 

[CA19100]

I more got the impression that he was saying that it's a very round about way of getting your photos from your phone to your PC. Which it is.

Not really. I'm out and about and snap some pictures. I get home, and my iPhone connects to my wireless network and immediately uploads its photos. I fire up my PC (with the iCloud software installed), and the pictures are waiting in the "PhotoStream" folder without me doing anything except walking in my front door.

How is that "very round about"?

 

[WelshBloke]

Not really. I'm out and about and snap some pictures. I get home, and my iPhone connects to my wireless network and immediately uploads its photos. I fire up my PC (with the iCloud software installed), and the pictures are waiting in the "PhotoStream" folder without me doing anything except walking in my front door.

How is that "very round about"?

Well uploading your photos to a third parties server just to get them on your PC seems a bit round about to me, especially when you, your phone, and your PC are all in the same building.

 

[Zaap]

Go to wifi area, hit dropbox, wait a few minutes. Go to computer, go to dropbox folder, done.

I know how dropbox works. I think you've missed the larger point. It's still a roundabout solution for merely transferring a photo to a computer you're sitting right next to, let alone a large number of them. Besides, this isn't some Apple-only 'just works' solution, I could do that with anything. But I'd rather not. I love dropbox- use it all the time, but not as a bandaid to a convoluted local file transfer system that supposedly 'just works' so well I have to go third-party.

 

[Brian Stirling]

What would you do?

We'll have to see what else Apple bakes into iOS7 when it's officially released. Perhaps it will be more than a face lift, perhaps much more, but so far I'm not seeing much beyond a trip to the beauty parlor...


Brian

 

[Ns1]

I know how dropbox works. I think you've missed the larger point. It's still a roundabout solution for merely transferring a photo to a computer you're sitting right next to, let alone a large number of them. Besides, this isn't some Apple-only 'just works' solution, I could do that with anything. But I'd rather not. I love dropbox- use it all the time, but not as a bandaid to a convoluted local file transfer system that supposedly 'just works' so well I have to go third-party.

iCloud Out of the box or dropbox is a better far superior solution for me. It's clear this is not for you.

I most certainly dont consider wires for anything but charging. Fuck wires.

 

[MrX8503]

Well uploading your photos to a third parties server just to get them on your PC seems a bit round about to me, especially when you, your phone, and your PC are all in the same building.

Do you not use cloud services? Seems like wires is old fashion to me.

 

[WelshBloke]

Do you not use cloud services? Seems like wires is old fashion to me.

I already said that I use cloud based services, they are very useful. As a solution for purely transferring photos from phone to PC I don't think that they are ideal.

Wires are hardly old fashioned quite yet. Now while in theory you could get away with never using a wired connection for anything today, I don't think that that makes wires old fashioned.
It'll be cool when they make a totally sealed phone with no ports though.
Wireless charging, wifi file transfer over the LAN, bluetooth headphones, all those things are available and in phones already. It doesn't necessarily mean that all phones without them are old fashioned though.

 

[Zaap]

iCloud Out of the box or dropbox is a better far superior solution for me. It's clear this is not for you.

I most certainly dont consider wires for anything but charging. Fuck wires.

There's a couple of things you guys are missing in your walled-garden mindset.

Dropbox is not an iOS 'it just works' Apple exclusive. Dropbox actually works better on Android. (More file/sharing/move and copy options because there isn't the stupid pretense that the device doesn't have a file system). Anyone could use DB for file transfer- but those of us with better/faster/more efficient options don't have to.

I routinely transfer gigabytes of data off my phone in the form of videos and hundreds of photos I've taken during an outing. Your dropboxing gigabytes up to the cloud, then gigabytes down again just to do a simple transfer to a computer you're right next to, that takes me under a minute via direct transfer is in my view one of the worst ways possible to achieve that task.

I use cloud services more for what I feel they're best for- a backup and synch option for certain important files and documents, not as a bandaid to the fact that my device is file transfer-crippled.

As usual when it comes to iOS- just because the locked down approach forces you into a limited way of doing things (that are also available on other platforms in addition to a greater choice) doesn't make that limited way better.

 

[WelshBloke]

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This isn't really an iOS vs Android issue though. You can use both cloud and local wired connections on both of them perfectly well.
Yes Android probably has more options and it suits you better (I know that it suits me better) but it doesn't mean that those options are totally unavailable on iOS.
I'd imagine people are aware of the limitations of iOS devices when they buy them and that those limitations are not an issue for them or are something they are willing to work around.

 

[Zaap]

This isn't really an iOS vs Android issue though. You can use both cloud and local wired connections on both of them perfectly well.

I know.

Thing is, I was responding to this notion that there's some magical 'just works' method on iOS that makes it special. (The context where this came up was a mild Android slam as well.)

When pressed for details- all I get is third party solutions that have nothing to do with any Apple 'it just works' thing, just a method anyone could use on any platform presented as the be-all/end-all of how to do things. (And it's just an added irony to me that Dropbox has more features in Android than iOS).

Then we get the notion that people don't use wired connections at all. Okay- so are those insisting this really transferring gigs of videos and photos via dropbox rather than a wired connection? If so, why, and if not, why not? (An honest answer would be appreciated.)

 

[WelshBloke]

You're trying to use logic to argue against marketing though.

All you'll achieve is to give yourself a headache.

 

[MrX8503]

I already said that I use cloud based services, they are very useful. As a solution for purely transferring photos from phone to PC I don't think that they are ideal.

If you're already using cloud services, its convenient that you don't have to use a cord.

I've never connected my iPhone on a Windows machine without supporting software.

On my Mac it auto launches iPhoto.

 

[WelshBloke]

... I've never connected my iPhone on a Windows machine without supporting software.

On my Mac it auto launches iPhoto.

I don't use an iPhone but I was under the impression that windows would automatically get them from the phone when you plugged it in as well.

 

[TheStu]

I don't use an iPhone but I was under the impression that windows would automatically get them from the phone when you plugged it in as well.

It will ask you if you want it to, but yes. And since videos you take are stored with the pictures, you can import those as well.

Documents, notes, etc. ... yea walled garden rears its head.

 

[MrX8503]

I don't understand what the issue is then.

 

[WelshBloke]

I don't understand what the issue is then.

From my POV? I don't particularly have an issue. I just think that local data transfers should be local rather than going over the WAN.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Well uploading your photos to a third parties server just to get them on your PC seems a bit round about to me, especially when you, your phone, and your PC are all in the same building.

Look at the converse of that: I'm on vacation, and I'm taking photos. I can now share them over iCloud to my family without having a PC around. I can drop my phone in the toilet at the end of my vacation and not lose photos.

As someone who connects their iPhone only to a wall charger regularly and a macbook infrequently (to get the latest developer version) iCloud works for me.

 

[WelshBloke]

Look at the converse of that: I'm on vacation, and I'm taking photos. I can now share them over iCloud to my family without having a PC around. I can drop my phone in the toilet at the end of my vacation and not lose photos.

Yeah its very useful for that. I use Google+ in exactly the same way. I was talking purely about transferring stuff around your home by transferring it across the WAN.

As someone who connects their iPhone only to a wall charger regularly and a macbook infrequently (to get the latest developer version) iCloud works for

me.

I'm not suggesting that there's anything wrong with iCloud, it's just not the easiest solution to every situation.

 

[Ns1]

It's not like I can't plug my phone into my computer to pull gigs of videos off the phone. I did just that last time I was in India. We just weren't talkin about that use case.

srsly people, you want to do shit the old fashioned way, fine:

 

[khha4113]

It's not like I can't plug my phone into my computer to pull gigs of videos off the phone. I did just that last time I was in India. We just weren't talkin about that use case.

srsly people, you want to do shit the old fashioned way, fine:

Unbelievable! After all what he's talking about, you still don't get it!

From my POV? I don't particularly have an issue. I just think that local data transfers should be local rather than going over the WAN...

... I'm not suggesting that there's anything wrong with iCloud, it's just not the easiest solution to every situation.

BTW, it's not the 'old fashioned' way but the 'direct way'!

 

[Ns1]

I actually don't read welshbloke's posts because he's on my ignore list.

 

[saratoga172]

Amazed no one has made any mention yet but iOS 7 beta 2 was released Monday! Lots of buy fixes and minor enhancements.

For me:
-Much more smooth. Less lag and nicer transitions. No stutter on the interface. Could use some reduced animations but that's another topic.
-fixed voicemail. Phone app doesn't freeze/close when trying to listen to voicemail
-changed exchange mail icon. Also syncs better
-some random data/connectivity issues that caused the battery to drain
-much better battery
-much more stable as a whole on the phone
-speed on my 4s! Feels almost like my 5 now
-Darker icons and message bubbles. They seem to be getting more into the ui design and cleaning it up and making minor tweaks
Notification and control center design tweaks. Slightly less transparency, smoother interaction and more stable


What I've got for now primarily. Sure I missed some. Overall this is much closer to a GM release. Also has ota update capability.

 

[Megatomic]

Amazed no one has made any mention yet but iOS 7 beta 2 was released Monday! Lots of buy fixes and minor enhancements.

For me:
-Much more smooth. Less lag and nicer transitions. No stutter on the interface. Could use some reduced animations but that's another topic.
-fixed voicemail. Phone app doesn't freeze/close when trying to listen to voicemail
-changed exchange mail icon. Also syncs better
-some random data/connectivity issues that caused the battery to drain
-much better battery
-much more stable as a whole on the phone
-speed on my 4s! Feels almost like my 5 now
-Darker icons and message bubbles. They seem to be getting more into the ui design and cleaning it up and making minor tweaks
Notification and control center design tweaks. Slightly less transparency, smoother interaction and more stable


What I've got for now primarily. Sure I missed some. Overall this is much closer to a GM release. Also has ota update capability.

Speed on the 4S is GREAT to hear. I was fearing that iOS7 was gonna ruin my phone, glad to hear that this may not be the case.

 

[Mopetar]

Amazed no one has made any mention yet but iOS 7 beta 2 was released Monday! Lots of buy fixes and minor enhancements.

For me:

. . .

-much better battery

I wonder if this has anything to do with some of the changes they announced for OS X, because during the keynote they talked about using the processor more efficiently. I wonder if they've implemented some of the same functionality in iOS to get similar results.