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[s44]

Did y'all see this piece?
Swiftkey to iOS7?

IMO this is the worse choice for Apple, since their native keyboard is already quite good at tapping, and Swype beats the pants off Swiftkey for, um, swyping. Also Apple already has a deal with Nuance for Siri. But some choice is better than none...

 

[Red Storm]

Did y'all see this piece?
Swiftkey to iOS7?

IMO this is the worse choice for Apple, since their native keyboard is already quite good at tapping, and Swype beats the pants off Swiftkey for, um, swyping. Also Apple already has a deal with Nuance for Siri. But some choice is better than none...

Well that's one step in the right direction.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Did y'all see this piece?
Swiftkey to iOS7?

IMO this is the worse choice for Apple, since their native keyboard is already quite good at tapping, and Swype beats the pants off Swiftkey for, um, swyping. Also Apple already has a deal with Nuance for Siri. But some choice is better than none...

Yeah I don't see swyping as an advantage much on an iPhone. I hated it on my SGS2 but love it on my S4. I think you need screen size to really swype well.

 

[ControlD]

Did y'all see this piece?
Swiftkey to iOS7?

IMO this is the worse choice for Apple, since their native keyboard is already quite good at tapping, and Swype beats the pants off Swiftkey for, um, swyping. Also Apple already has a deal with Nuance for Siri. But some choice is better than none...

Honestly part of the reason I switched to Android was to finally be free of the craptastic keyboard on my 4S. If Swiftkey had been available it would have made my decision a little harder.

 

[MrX8503]

There's flat design and then there's steam rolled flat (Windows 8). They're not the same!

Shapes can also give the design character and windows is completely squared off.

A new iOS design is exciting but I'm more concerned with functions at this point. The current look of iOS doesn't bother me except for a few apps like Find Friends or whatever its called. Not sure why an app like that needs stitching.

 

[gorcorps]

Did y'all see this piece?
Swiftkey to iOS7?

IMO this is the worse choice for Apple, since their native keyboard is already quite good at tapping, and Swype beats the pants off Swiftkey for, um, swyping. Also Apple already has a deal with Nuance for Siri. But some choice is better than none...

Disagree

Even swiftkey flow beta was better than Swype for me. Swype used to be good but was getting worse with every update, and I don't know why. It would very often get words wrong and I couldn't train it to work for me. Swiftkey is much better at that, and is a better tap keyboard than Swype as well so IMO it's a great keyboard.

 

[QueBert]

Android needs polish in areas. iOS has more polish but it's lacking in actual features that Android does have, polished or no.

And iOS has features that Android doesn't, it goes both ways. I know Android with the $700 Head Unit I just had installed in my car is a no go.

 

[RaulF]

Honestly part of the reason I switched to Android was to finally be free of the craptastic keyboard on my 4S. If Swiftkey had been available it would have made my decision a little harder.

I guess we are at opposite ends.

I could never get used, or learned to like any of the android keyboards. Even the stock was nothing compare to ios keyboard.

Swift was as close as i could get to ios.

 

[podspi]

Did y'all see this piece?
Swiftkey to iOS7?

IMO this is the worse choice for Apple, since their native keyboard is already quite good at tapping, and Swype beats the pants off Swiftkey for, um, swyping. Also Apple already has a deal with Nuance for Siri. But some choice is better than none...

Well, it looks to me like they would just open up 3rd party keyboards entirely. So it would be up to the keyboard dev to port.

I think this is excellent, and I hope Microsoft opens up WP to 3rd party keyboard devs as well.

I straight-up would not switch to a platform without 3rd party keyboard support. Well, the exception would be if Swiftkey built their 1st party keyboard.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Interesting news on the keyboard front. I wonder if they will open anything else up to choice. It's time for a new phone but this has me intrigued enough that I'll have to wait to see what 7 brings to the table before deciding if I want a GS4/HTC One or a new iPhone.

 

[s44]

And iOS has features that Android doesn't, it goes both ways. I know Android with the $700 Head Unit I just had installed in my car is a no go.

Third parties building stuff that only works with your device isn't a "feature".

 

[Commodus]

Third parties building stuff that only works with your device isn't a "feature".

Yes and no.

Exclusive or proprietary tech isn't good in itself. However, part of why many head end units, exercise trackers, speakers and other peripherals only support iOS is because Apple makes it easier for that to happen: special car modes, AirPlay and a much better Bluetooth stack.

Google won't have a truly native Bluetooth stack of its own until Android 4.3 (or whatever it's called) sometime this year -- everything else has been third-party drivers, and it's currently an inconsistent mess. Car integration and wireless sharing features on Android tend to be either relatively simple (think speakerphones and DLNA) or specific to just one model: many of the Galaxy S 4's sharing features won't even work with a GS3, for example. While Android's situation is getting better, it's still true that you want iOS if you like a genuinely healthy accessory market.

 

[LikeLinus]

And iOS has features that Android doesn't, it goes both ways. I know Android with the $700 Head Unit I just had installed in my car is a no go.

So what exact default features does iOS have that Android doesn't? I use both devices daily and I can attest that Android to me seems to be far more feature driven than iOS. I love both devices, but still give the edge to the overall functionality to Android.

 

[bearxor]

So what exact default features does iOS have that Android doesn't? I use both devices daily and I can attest that Android to me seems to be far more feature driven than iOS. I love both devices, but still give the edge to the overall functionality to Android.

The big one for me, and maybe this is stretching "feature", is the ability to get notifications and not use the notification center. Every time I'm on an Android device I feel like I'm managing it as opposed to using it. I can turn notifications for apps off on Android, but then you don't get them at all. On iOS I can choose for them not to collect in the notification center, so I never have to drag it down to clear it, but I can still see the notification when I'm using the device and if I set it down and walk away, I can have them collect on the lock screen so I can quickly see what's happened while I've been away, and the moment I unlock the device I don't ever have to worry about them again.

Honestly, the Android notification system is probably the main reason I dont use Android as a daily driver.

 

[bearxor]

This is probably the most excited I've been for a keynote since 2008. We really know almost nothing about what's going to happen tomorrow which is really unusual. I was hoping in the week leading up that there would be a huge break and we'd get some kind of verified list of things happening tomorrow but so far, nothing.

The only things I think we know are that Jonny Ive hates skeuomorphism and that Apple may or may not launch a streaming radio service.

 

[khha4113]

SlashGear_WWDC 2013 iOS 7 expectations: 8 features we’ll be waiting for

 

[poofyhairguy]

Wow 6 of the 8 is the author basically saying "Just do this how Android does it."

From market leader to the conservative catch-up.

 

[bearxor]

SlashGear_WWDC 2013 iOS 7 expectations: 8 features we’ll be waiting for

My take:
Quick toggles - If Apple includes this, it will only be because of the public pressure. Quick toggles are counter to Apple's overall UX goals.

Quick close in task switcher - I feel the same way about this as I do to quick toggles. Be thankful you can close them at all.

Clear all notifications - Likely, though they didn't add it to iOS 6. Will probably happen at some point I'd guess.

Infinite folders - Likely. Would love it to be able to shove everything in a folder, but that's not really a solution to the problem of app icons.

Hide or put newsstand in a folder - I'm guessing newsstand gets a complete redesign. The main reason it can't go on a folder is because it is just a folder. I'm guessing it gets redesigned to be a launchable app instead of a folder that holds individual paper apps. That should solve the problem of tucking it away.

Adding more features to the lock screen - ehhh, I'm not too sure how valuable this is to the general public. Especially since you can open apps that sent you notifications directly. A love weather widget would be nice, if you could plug in your weather app of choice and not just the default Apple one. Being able to choose what the swipe up is would be nice, but basically anything other than a camera breaks the UX when a device pass code is enforced, IMO. You're not going to let people swipe up and make a phone call or check email or send a text without punching in the pass code and, IMO, having the camera be accessible makes the most sense.

Change default apps - Good god I hope so. I do think that if this is allowed to happen that it won't be open to any application someone throws on the store. I think those apps will be heavily vetted by Apple.

Upper/lowercase on the keyboard - You know, I had never thought about this until we started rolling out iPhones and Android devices at work and got questions from the new iPhone users as to how to tell if they're typing a capital. It had just never occurred to me. In all honesty, I like the all caps keyboard, mainly because I think capital letters look better than lower case letters overall, but that's just me. The bottom line here, however, is that Apple has had plenty of time to consider and implement that change. They haven't done it thus far, which isn't to say that they won't ever do it, but I imagine its been considered since at least iOS 3. Flip a coin on this one.

 

[blairharrington]

My take:
Quick toggles - If Apple includes this, it will only be because of the public pressure. Quick toggles are counter to Apple's overall UX goals.

I will laugh if Apple doesn't bring quick toggles to iOS 7. It's desperately needed.

 

[bearxor]

I will laugh if Apple doesn't bring quick toggles to iOS 7. It's desperately needed.

I'm not holding my breath. If anything, I would guess they'd simply make the toggles more accessible on the main settings screen.

If it happens, it wouldn't surprise me, but if it doesn't I'm not going to shed a tear for it.

 

[poofyhairguy]

What Apple needs to do is open things up more. Most requested features are things wanted from Android. If Apple delivers then the mainstream media will crucify them. Plus that might hurt a court case or two.

So instead open it up a little. Then their approved vendors extend iOS and do the actual dirty work of copying Androids best features while Apple laps up the praise from developers.

 

[blairharrington]

I'm not holding my breath. If anything, I would guess they'd simply make the toggles more accessible on the main settings screen.

If it happens, it wouldn't surprise me, but if it doesn't I'm not going to shed a tear for it.

Some form of toggles is desperately needed. Regardless of whether it will happen or not. Having to tap several times to toggle wi-fi and bluetooth is just nonsense.

 

[bearxor]

Some form of toggles is desperately needed. Regardless of whether it will happen or not. Having to tap several times to toggle wi-fi and bluetooth is just nonsense.

I don't disagree with you, per se, just that what you're describing is counter intuitive to Apples user experience philosophy.

You, as a user, shouldn't HAVE to worry about turning your WiFi or Bluetooth on and off. It should just kind of work and maybe, possibly, under certain circumstances, you may need to turn it off.

That's why I think a good middle ground will be to redesign the settings screen so you can switch them off and on instead if having to go into settings and then go into wifi/bluetooth and then turn it off or on.

I understand, as I'm sure Apple does, that a percentage of the user base would love to have some form of quick toggle. But if you look at it from Apple's perspective, its up to then to curate the experience for the user. In their view, the phone should be used, not managed. Its also not a feature that's going to drive growth. Android users aren't going to suddenly go 'Well I guess I can turn my WiFi off with two taps instead of four now... Guess its time to switch to an iPhone!'

I'm still up in the air as to whether or not its going to happen. All I'm suggesting is that it's not a make or break feature that many people suggest it is and no one should be TOO surprised if it doesn't happen.

 

[dagamer34]

I don't disagree with you, per se, just that what you're describing is counter intuitive to Apples user experience philosophy.

You, as a user, shouldn't HAVE to worry about turning your WiFi or Bluetooth on and off. It should just kind of work and maybe, possibly, under certain circumstances, you may need to turn it off.

That's why I think a good middle ground will be to redesign the settings screen so you can switch them off and on instead if having to go into settings and then go into wifi/bluetooth and then turn it off or on.

I understand, as I'm sure Apple does, that a percentage if the user base would love to have some form of quick toggle. But if you look at it from Apple's perspective, its up to then to curate the experience for the user. In their view, the phone should be used, not managed. Its also not a feature that's going to drive growth. Android users aren't going to suddenly go 'Well I guess I can turn my WiFi off with two taps instead of four now... Guess its time to switch to an iPhone!'

I'm still up in the air as to whether or not its going to happen. All I'm suggesting is that it's not a make or break feature that many people suggest it is and no one should be TOO surprised if it doesn't happen.

Thing is, there's been a jailbreak tweak for quick settings since iPhone OS 2.0. Good lord, when will they get with the program!

 

[QueBert]

Third parties building stuff that only works with your device isn't a "feature".

It is a feature though, because an iPhone will integrate with my head unit where an Android phone won't. Apple could, and should bring shit like this up in their marketing. If you're looking for a phone that works with your radio, and a certain phone does then that's absolutely a feature, regardless of if it's the phone manufacturer or whoever makes the head unit that's responsible for it.

So what exact default features does iOS have that Android doesn't? I use both devices daily and I can attest that Android to me seems to be far more feature driven than iOS. I love both devices, but still give the edge to the overall functionality to Android.

it all depends on what you use your phone for, Android's obviously better if you need widgets & custom roms. My iPhone's fully supported by my head unit in my car, and ties in with some of the Akai studio equipment I use to make music. Android has little support for the 1st, and absolutely zero support for the 2nd. The majority of my time's spent in my car, or my studio, and I hate Widgets and could care less about shit like s-on/s-off. People on here say carry on about both things I mentioned not being features, but they're things I can do with my iOS devices I cannot do with an Android device, regardless how much hacking is performed. But I understand to each his own, and most don't have needs like I do.