DFI Infinity P965

[thedom]

Originally posted by: The Reaper

Anybody find an etailer that has this this MoBo in stock?? Newegg STILL shows out of stock and ewiz dropped it from their site.

Since Neweegg never got their stock in, I order one from here.

is this a good place to buy stuff from? Do you trust them etc...

 

[Bozo Galora]

well, as it turns out my 620 Corsair does not work well with the DFI
I dont want to hash this out here, I am now bored with the subject
The DFI approved PSU list is useless.
I really wanted to know the posters model of PSU for my own personal "working PSU" poll, not to get into the normal arguing with people here at the beginning of the learning curve.

I will just leave it at this:
If you want a successful DFI 965 experience, buy OCZ GameXstream or PowerXstream pro. Nothing else.
Do not allow the mobo to bend when mounting CPU sink - which means you will need to make sure center part of 4 arm bracket does not touch mobo - which means you cant use square gummy spacer, and must put non metallic washers between bracket ends and mobo surface. This includes being extra careful around traces right at the edge of the 4 mounting holes on the backside. The DS3 has 1/16" clearance around holes - the DFI has 0.

Do not forget to use floppy power connector above 1X PCI-E slot if using an 88XX type card.
And think about 1.4V vcore as a starting point, 1.5 -1.6 for big overclocks.

Now those who want to pick all this apart - go ahead, knock yourself out.
The P-35 will be out in 2 weeks, so who cares about the dead as a doornail P965.
You guys are getting all excited and bothered about something that is a dinosaur.

 

[iluvdeal]

Wow, not exactly a ringing endorsement for this board.

Bozo Galora, do you know which P35 board is due out in 2 weeks?

 

[Bozo Galora]

Originally posted by: iluvdeal
Wow, not exactly a ringing endorsement for this board.

Bozo Galora, do you know which P35 board is due out in 2 weeks?

Gigabyte ASUS and MSI
DDR3 boards,, DDR2 boards, DDR2 AND DDR3 combo boards boards (six ram slots)

Check out that crazy donut heatsink system on the MSI

MSI
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=142459

Gigabyte (DS4 DDR3 only)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=142340

The ASUS specific ICH9R drivers are already up on station-drivers

Now dont you folks feel silly salivating over that very troubled DFI????

And I would still like to know what PSU destrekor used.
*sigh*, guess I'll have to PM him.
he "loves" the board, so thats why inquiring minds want to know.

Edit:
Hmmm. xtremesys seems to be down at this present time, so heres an alternate for just the MSI
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=6&id=2249

 

[Bobsled]

Hey BG,

Not to discredit any of the points you've raised, but there have also been lots of sucess stories with the board. I'm too involved with this project now to turn back (or delay it). I initially was going to go the GA-965P DS3 Rev 3.3 route but a lack of 1394 and use of a ICH8 South Bridge turned me off to the DS3. I plan to use the OCZ GameXstream 700W you recommend and some OCZ PC6400 Rev 2s with a E4300. So, taking into consideration the points you mention and other tips here and there I hope to forge on.

Link1

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[Bozo Galora]

@Bobsled

Well, those links you gave are all well and good, but you seemed to have missed the big one......
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=139668&page=16
3 DOA boards, PSU probs etc.
Perhaps you may wish to start from the beginning on that thread and read all 19 pages.

I think the DOA's were due to curling up the (only 4 layer) board with HS install, or backplate pads shorting the traces. Remember the motherboard bending into a banana when installing the stock Intel cooler with the DS3? Intel specifies a certain contact pressure on the heat spreader to make good thermal transfer. Well you cant do that with this board - apparently.

And just last night we had a little blurb from "Raja". the resident guru at dficlub as follows (regarding the 4 Pin - 8 Pin +12V CPU power connectors).........

"use 4 pin connectors if you have them, this will solve any reboot issues you are experiencing..

regards
raja "

It is nice tho that the 424 bios has fixed the "no opticals showing when in Intel RAID" problem.

And Praz is investigating why DFI voltages dont show correctly in Smart Guardian
http://www.worldoverclockingleague.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2186#post2186

Um, but like I say, I just wanted to know what PSU the guy here used.
Thats all.
All I said was "PSU please, kind sir"

 

[Bozo Galora]

Oh, and one other thing - "mid May" P-35 release in the computer world could mean September - as we all know - heh. So, if its not out May 15, dont blame me..

 

[Bobsled]

Ok, I'm still on the fence, but I have a couple of feelers out. BTW, BG did you mention what PSU you used?

Also, FWIW, reading sigs on xtreamsystems.org and DFI forum and cross check against the "approved list" I came up w/ the following list (this is NOT my recommendation, just a general list of PSUs that seem to work w/ the P965-S):

Corsair 620HX
PC P&C 610
OCZ GameXStream 700W & 600W
Antec TPT 650W
Antec 550W
Aopen 700W

BTW, I'm leaning towards a OCZ 700W.

 

[destrekor]

sorry I haven't tended to this topic. It kind of died for awhile.

I am using a Coolermaster Real 450w, have had it ever since I built the original system in this case ('05). Has seen me through all times.
currently in the system:
DFI P965-S Dark
Intel e6420 (2.13ghz) @ 3.44ghz (1.4v on vcore, 1.35v on NB)
2gb g.skill DDR2-800 @ DDR2-861
eVGA 8800GTS @ 620/2000mhz
LG DVD Burner
(heh, a floppy too)
1x160gb Seagate HDD
Creative X-Fi w/front panel module
Linksys wireless card (not used at the moment)
multiple 120mm fans

this is stable as hell. on average provides 11.92v on the 12v rails, almost exactly 3.3v and 5v on those rails.
floppy power connector is used on the mobo. I also only have a 4pin connector instead of the 8pin connector the mobo would prefer to use. If I ever add any more equipment I may look to upgrading the CPU, till then I should be fine.

 

[Bobsled]

Thanks for posting destrekor.

 

[iluvdeal]

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
Oh, and one other thing - "mid May" P-35 release in the computer world could mean September - as we all know - heh. So, if its not out May 15, dont blame me..

It's looking like June unfortunately. From http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=715&Itemid=37:

"The good news is that the P35 boards will ship with both Vista and XP drivers. You should be able to see some announcements by the end of the May but the 4th of June, or the first day of Computex, is the real launch with massive availability just after."

 

[Bozo Galora]

@Bobsled

The Corsair, PC&C Silencer and the Seasonic are all built by Seasonic.
Single +12V rail
Modular.
Yes I used 2 Corsair 620's and a 520 to check things out, with issues

The fact is, there is no rhyme or reason on why some PSU give no prob and others do. Some people have replaced hotshot highly rated high power PSU with el crappo 420W units and everthing is fine. (Per Destroker)
The new info to not use 8 pin connector may be a hint, since the crap PSU DONT EVEN HAVE an 8 pin CPU 12V connector - per Destrokers post.
DOH!!!
Modular SEEMS to be a problem - the added resistance??
Modular SEEMS to need higher voltages
And you can use a 4 pin connector with an 8 pin molex - using the top half.
Interesting that Destroker DID use the FLOPPY power..

The fact is the OCZ proXstream 1000W is the slam dunk absolute best PSU to use with a DFI P965. The 600W powerstream is second best.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/p...management/ocz_proxstream_power_supply
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/p...anagement/ocz_powerstream_power_supply
Unfortunatley, the 1000Watter is $255 cheapest vendor.
FWIW I sometimes misname the proXstream as powerXstream, which is easy to do with all those PSU so closely named.
OCZ also has new 700 and 900W modulars, but arent avail just as yet.

I might mention that some of the guys reporting 500FSB out of the box are very advanced overclockers. Guys who live for this stuff 24/7 and know every trick in the book. If you are a casual overclocker - plan on a 2 week learning curve. Also there are some EXCEPTIONALLY important memory settings that can make or break your experience.

 

[Bozo Galora]

It might be nice for Destroker to list every last mem setting used on his successful "rock solid" overclock, for the others here.
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http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/ocz600w/index.htm

The OCZ Powerstream offers 6 independent DV output rails combining with OCZ powershield technology for more stable voltage and cleaner power output.

The OCZ powershield EMI control technology with copper shielded power leads provides extreme current stabilisation and is an ideal solution for high resolution application such as PC games, video editing and 3d graphic design.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
And now I have to look up the Coolermaster Real 450w and see if it has an 8 pin CPU power connector - as part of my poll, you know.

it does not. nor it is an 'el crappo' PSU as you stated. its a rock-solid unit. crap ones do not provide stable power when there is high demand.

it does have a 24pin ATX power connector, but does not have the recent 8pin power connector. The unit was bought in late 2006 when 8pin power connectors had not been introduced yet.

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
It might be nice for Destroker to list every last mem setting used on his successful "rock solid" overclock, for the others here.

sneaky edit. keeping the above for your use, however.

every last setting, well I will say everything is default setting on the motherboard, at least the settings I do not know.
memory is running 4-4-4-12 @ 2.1v... 1:1 timings too... so 430 FSB, memory at 860mhz

 

[Bozo Galora]

@Destroker.....

You are too fast for me, I edited my post to reflect you do indeed not have an 8 pin.
I am now wondering if a 600W powerstrem has an 8 pin.
Please do not be offended by my offhand description of your PSU
A PSU is an inanimate object.
If I said you were ugly and had a small penis - well, that would be different.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
@Destroker.....

You are too fast for me, I edited my post to reflect you do indeed not have an 8 pin.
I am now wondering if a 600W powerstrem has an 8 pin.
Please do not be offended by my offhand description of your PSU
A PSU is an inanimate object.
If I said you were ugly and had a small penis - well, that would be different.

im not offended, I was just merely stating, it's not crappo unit that is bought for $40 at some PC parts store. It just happens to only be 450w because, well back in 2005 the higher wattage units were quite expensive and unnecessary.

regardless, the memory settings I posted.. were they what you were looking for?

 

[MotF Bane]

My friend is currently in the process of reviewing this motherboard. It should be finished by the end of this week, I will post a link here if he does not.

 

[Bozo Galora]

Now see, AT is like quicksand - you just keep getting sucked in deeper and deeper.

So, I found out the model of PSU that I was curious about..
Added it to my personal little poll.
Done and done.

 

[Bobsled]

Originally posted by: MotF Bane
My friend is currently in the process of reviewing this motherboard. It should be finished by the end of this week, I will post a link here if he does not.

That would be great. FWIW, I ordered the MoBo from the link Reaper provided (bit more expensive than the rest, but hey it's OOS everywhere). Oh well. Plan to use OCZ GXS 700W ZZF has it on sale w/ MIR LINK BTW. I'll post once I get everything in.

 

[soybeast]

I don't mean to crap on my own thread, but I still don't quite understand the reasoning for needing 600W or greater PSU in non-SLI/non-Crossfire setups. Even when overclocking a 1.28 v E6300 C2D to something like 1.45 v, older pentiums and athlons like the Athlon palomino core used about 1.75 volts. If you factor in that much of the parts in a computer haven't changed much in terms of power draw except for video cards, I don't see where one would need such massive power supplies beyond even 500 watts.

Now you have a point in the importance of quality, but I've seen no evidence thus far to indicate a relationship between larger power supplies and increasing quality as the wattage goes up. Bozo, would you like to point to any specific evidence as to why OCZ power supplies are the overwhelming choice? Or is this simply a strange pecularity with this board?

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: soybeast
I don't mean to crap on my own thread, but I still don't quite understand the reasoning for needing 600W or greater PSU in non-SLI/non-Crossfire setups. Even when overclocking a 1.28 v E6300 C2D to something like 1.45 v, older pentiums and athlons like the Athlon palomino core used about 1.75 volts. If you factor in that much of the parts in a computer haven't changed much in terms of power draw except for video cards, I don't see where one would need such massive power supplies beyond even 500 watts.

Now you have a point in the importance of quality, but I've seen no evidence thus far to indicate a relationship between larger power supplies and increasing quality as the wattage goes up. Bozo, would you like to point to any specific evidence as to why OCZ power supplies are the overwhelming choice? Or is this simply a strange pecularity with this board?

it may not be the amount of power those PSU's are capable of, it may simply be those PSU's are really stable. These days, a lot of people do not test lower power units, like the one I have, because they invest in the more powerful ones because the items in their computer's draw more power than they used it, and they want to be future proofed, to an extent.
you should be fine getting a 500w or even a 450w, although I wouldn't recommend it in today's world, due to the moment you likely want to add something, the PC may want to draw more power than the PSU can produce.

 

[yuppiejr]

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-I-P965S

In stock as of 11:20 CST at E-Wiz, 148.98 w/ free shipping.

 

[Bobsled]

Of course it'll be instock the day after I buy it for a few bucks more. Oh well. Mine is on its way.

 

[magic507]

They have taken the board down from ewiz already....... wtf is going on??

 

[Bobsled]

"Sold Out." Again, happy mine is incomming.