Dick's is a bunch of *****.

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Geosurface

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Those who keep implying HumblePie is a danger to others should be deeply ashamed of where they're willing to take an argument online.
 

Wreckem

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This thread is pretty comical. Especially the thought of recovery for punitive damages or mental anguish.
 
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Fritzo

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What do you need a brain for? Obviously you aren't using yours correctly.

Who cares what the item was that I purchased. It could have been a kayak order they decided not fulfill out of sympathy of a random canoeing shooting that occurred. Who cares about the details of the item. The problem is they took my money in promise to fulfill an order. Once money has exchanged hands, a legal contract is accepted by both parties. Barring something massively out of their control for being unable to fulfill the order they are legally bound by law to do so.

He needs it for reasons.
 

Geosurface

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Nobody NEEDS a Hummer or a 70" HDTV either. And?

We are America and we like going over the top. Frankly the world liked us better when we did so without apologies and just embraced what we are. Many took inspiration from it, most of the world flocked to our movies where it was on full, even exaggerated display.

I say, fuck the third world. Cut off all aid, we only create more starving, breeding people who will eventually try to move here and suck even more directly from the teat, while dragging us down and filling our streets with crime.

The only aid we should offer the third world is acting as an example of what they might be if they got their shit together.

Feeding them has only increased suffering, their warlords steal the money and now there are more of them starving and getting diseases. The planet suffers, already too many people and more importantly too many of the wrong people.

Rain forests suffer, animals suffer... I'd rather see every human in Africa die of starvation than chimps and gorillas go extinct as bush meat.
 

BudAshes

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Nobody NEEDS a Hummer or a 70" HDTV either. And?

We are America and we like going over the top. Frankly the world liked us better when we did so without apologies and just embraced what we are. Many took inspiration from it, most of the world flocked to our movies where it was on full, even exaggerated display.

I say, fuck the third world. Cut off all aid, we only create more starving, breeding people who will eventually try to move here and suck even more directly from the teat, while dragging us down and filling our streets with crime.

The only aid we should offer the third world is acting as an example of what they might be if they got their shit together.

Feeding them has only increased suffering, their warlords steal the money and now there are more of them starving and getting diseases. The planet suffers, already too many people and more importantly too many of the wrong people.

Rain forests suffer, animals suffer... I'd rather see every human in Africa die of starvation than chimps and gorillas go extinct as bush meat.

This is the same problem as with guns. It's too late to turn back now even if we wanted to.
 

Dari

Lifer
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Why is OP ignoring me? I want to know more about his strategy for mental anguish...
 

Dari

Lifer
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Everyone ignores you, until you start a thread.

He stopped replying when I dug deeper into his mental anguish story. I have a feeling he will drop it. Maybe his lawyer advised him as well. I think whatever goodwill Troy throws his way he will take and move on. The mental anguish thing was the only BS I saw in his complaint.
 

HumblePie

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He stopped replying when I dug deeper into his mental anguish story. I have a feeling he will drop it. Maybe his lawyer advised him as well. I think whatever goodwill Troy throws his way he will take and move on. The mental anguish thing was the only BS I saw in his complaint.

Didn't ignore it. I've stated it was a possibility I could add to the lawsuit. It still is. Doesn't mean it will be won, but something that could be added. And if argued correctly it could be won. But ONLY because of the reasons I outlined previously. Why should I even bother responding when you are just looking to troll like you have been. The whole point of this thread was to inform others of the illegal actions DSG has taken thus far. That I was going to pursue all legal recourses in their proper order until it was resolved. If that means DSG turns around and says, "Sorry, here's your item sir" and hands me what I originally paid for, I'm perfectly fine and happy with that. If they don't, but the manufacturer does it out of good will then I'll be happy with Troy for sure. Perhaps a more annoyed with DSG, but the matter will be resolved. If neither of those two scenario's happens within the next 30 days, since that is the time frame after I had my lawyer yesterday send a letter to DSG, then I'll pursue litigation. By then it may be a class action. At which point I may have to decide if I join the class action or not. If not, I go at it on my own and pursue for the maximum amount I can get. That has been the plan since the beginning.

Everyone else, including yourself, seems to want to be whiny trolls and bash me over trying to stick with the law. Most of the posters here are grossly misinformed, especially many of those pretending to be lawyers. If DSG does not fulfill their end of the contract and their reasonings for not doing so is because they don't want to anymore, then I have a very solid case against them for litigation. Actually, it is 100% case. I've stated this several times in the thread.
 

HumblePie

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Great question. HumblePie?

Can't you read threads? I've already stated all damages that could be recovered. If the rifle costs more elsewhere the difference in cost would be a damage. So would any lawyer fees, court fees, and any time spent seeking redress. Those are all damages I could and more than likely would be awarded.
 

HumblePie

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Facebook Page LINK:

Troy Industries
Troy Defense (Troy), a division a Troy Industries, Inc., was deeply dismayed and shocked to hear through national media outlets that Dick’s Sporting Goods (DSG) made the decision to stop selling the Troy Carbine along with other modern sporting rifles. DSG did not contact or inform Troy of this decision prior to notifying the public. Nor was Troy informed by DSG that cancellation letters were being sent to customers, set to arrive on Christmas Eve (a day Troy was closed).

Troy has invested millions of dollars in its facility and operations to bring its first ever modern sporting rifle to the market under an exclusive contract with DSG. In selecting DSG as the sole distributor of the Troy Carbine, Troy relied on DSG’s high sales forecasts and sales potential prior to undertaking the significant financial and corporate commitment necessary to design, develop, manufacture and bring a new modern sporting rifle to the marketplace. Based on DSG’s press release, DSG’s anti-gun stance is clear – DSG will not continue modern sporting rifle sales and Troy will sadly not see its Carbine readily available — despite the outlay of millions of dollars by Troy and its commitment to support DSG in its distribution efforts.

Troy is currently researching other channels to ensure continuous and consistent distribution for its rifles. But please note, Troy’s pricing to DSG was based upon volume sales. It is unlikely that pricing to any other outlet in the future will support the pricing granted to DSG. Troy understands the anger of certain DSG customers whose purchases have been cancelled – you got a great price from DSG. However, Troy, itself, cannot come anywhere close to offering the Carbine at the price DSG was offering it. DSG devalued and diluted Troy’s brand when it offered for sale the Carbine at a steeply discounted price during Thanksgiving week. As a result of the sale price set by DSG, DSG oversold and overpromised its inventory. Nonetheless, the current ill-will could have been avoided had DSG not terminated modern sporting rifle sales, promptly canceled overpromised orders, and forthrightly communicated with Troy.

Troy is hopeful that it will soon identify a new distribution channel for its Carbine. We ask for your patience and support during this difficult and transitory time.

Best regards,

Stephen Troy
CEO & Founder
The Troy Group
www.troydefense.com
www.troyind.com
www.troyprepared.com
 

HumblePie

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Doesn't sound like the plan to honor the price.

Unfortunately no. But if they go through another retailer and have a stable price set, it would be easier to collect damages in the difference of prices from DSG.

But as I have said a few times, customers weren't the only ones screwed over by DSG with this fiasco. Troy can also pursue legal recourse against DSG. They may also be facing fines from the FTC and the state of Pennsylvania as well. As a company, you just don't do what they did in this situation.
 

Regs

Lifer
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I love situations like these. Legalize, public policy, and business practices come head-to-head with the ever so hastily changing public opinion and moral objectivity.

I don't think there is anything in my 2000 page condensed business law book that states merchant can breach contract for a moral objectiveness, but what would the remedy be if it did? They clearly gave you a refund with a 100 dollar gift card is consideration, and now a court will have to decide if that is more than enough consideration.

There are some instances a organization can have moral clauses in contract where they can prevent themselves from performing certain actions in contract that can be considered defamatory to their image. Though in this instance, and point of time, the events in Conn. wouldn't be relevant in DSG's case, but that would only be my opinion. Since there is a lot of grey area here, a court will still have to decide if the refund and gift card was sufficient enough.
 
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Dari

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Didn't ignore it. I've stated it was a possibility I could add to the lawsuit. It still is. Doesn't mean it will be won, but something that could be added. And if argued correctly it could be won. But ONLY because of the reasons I outlined previously. Why should I even bother responding when you are just looking to troll like you have been. The whole point of this thread was to inform others of the illegal actions DSG has taken thus far. That I was going to pursue all legal recourses in their proper order until it was resolved. If that means DSG turns around and says, "Sorry, here's your item sir" and hands me what I originally paid for, I'm perfectly fine and happy with that. If they don't, but the manufacturer does it out of good will then I'll be happy with Troy for sure. Perhaps a more annoyed with DSG, but the matter will be resolved. If neither of those two scenario's happens within the next 30 days, since that is the time frame after I had my lawyer yesterday send a letter to DSG, then I'll pursue litigation. By then it may be a class action. At which point I may have to decide if I join the class action or not. If not, I go at it on my own and pursue for the maximum amount I can get. That has been the plan since the beginning.

Everyone else, including yourself, seems to want to be whiny trolls and bash me over trying to stick with the law. Most of the posters here are grossly misinformed, especially many of those pretending to be lawyers. If DSG does not fulfill their end of the contract and their reasonings for not doing so is because they don't want to anymore, then I have a very solid case against them for litigation. Actually, it is 100% case. I've stated this several times in the thread.

Not all posts against you are trolling. Some people want to understand why you decided to pursue the mental anguish angle. I was one of them. You are becoming overly sensitive and putting people into two camps... supporters and trolls. That is false.
 

HumblePie

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Not all posts against you are trolling. Some people want to understand why you decided to pursue the mental anguish angle. I was one of them. You are becoming overly sensitive and putting people into two camps... supporters and trolls. That is false.

Because I stated from the beginning how and why with links and explanations. Mental anguish, and if my lawyer agrees is feasible, would stem from the fact the product was a gift for the holiday season and may be the only time left ever in my lifetime to do so. By DSGs intentional actions, they have failed to let me have that moment in time that has forever passed me by. Much as the wedding dress scenario I posted in a previous link. There is a reasonable basis, but it may not be enough on it's own to be arguable in court. Although awards for similar actions put forth have won before as well as lost before. There is case law showing both outcomes for this. It's really not that hard a concept to grasp like the first 4 times I explained it.

And as I stated previously, if I have to seek litigation as my last recourse, I WILL go for the most allowable under law.

And yes, you have trolled in this thread. Others have trolled far more than you, but you are guilty of it too here. Some people were genuinely interested in the actual details, such as waggy, despite their initial reaction where they stated I should not seek legal redress. Then when they learn the details, they change their minds. Waggy was not an initial supporter or my story, but he wasn't a troll and was willing to hear out all the details.

Others, like Corporate Thug and Outhouse, were trying to be more sophisticated trolls. I had to literally explain, with several other people helping me, 6 times why my sale in this case is considered a binding contract to Outhouse.
 
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Geosurface

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It's actually really sad to see a national chain that must have been run halfway well at some point in its existence to get so large, now act in such a childish, stupid way.

"There's a story on CNN that has nothing to do with us? Quick, immediately screw our customers over and totally bone a supplier we had an agreement with! Faster!!!"

No waiting for the dust to settle, no gauging the long term national mood, no working with Troy and customers to withdraw from the AR-15 market gracefully... and certainly no having the backbone to just weather the storm and make no changes.

Just disgusting cowardice, and horrible treatment of people.
 

SandEagle

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always had bad service at D***'s. staff never seemed interested in helping. then again, its probably because i'm brown. anyway, still don't see why you need an AR15
 

Regs

Lifer
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Nobody NEEDS a Hummer or a 70" HDTV either. And?

We are America and we like going over the top. Frankly the world liked us better when we did so without apologies and just embraced what we are. Many took inspiration from it, most of the world flocked to our movies where it was on full, even exaggerated display.

I say, fuck the third world. Cut off all aid, we only create more starving, breeding people who will eventually try to move here and suck even more directly from the teat, while dragging us down and filling our streets with crime.

The only aid we should offer the third world is acting as an example of what they might be if they got their shit together.

Feeding them has only increased suffering, their warlords steal the money and now there are more of them starving and getting diseases. The planet suffers, already too many people and more importantly too many of the wrong people.

Rain forests suffer, animals suffer... I'd rather see every human in Africa die of starvation than chimps and gorillas go extinct as bush meat.

Your reasoning is based on the assumption that things never change and everything is an impasse. Don't you think morality, virtues, technology and values change over time?
 

Geosurface

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still don't see why you need an AR15

Nobody NEEDS the mountain bikes, tents, canoes, or crossbows they sell either.

In this country there are outdoor sportsmen who enjoy various expressions and avenues of that. Some go spelunking, some do archery and some fire AR-15s at targets for their enjoyment. Others use said rifle for hunting.

What's not to get?
 

HumblePie

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always had bad service at D***'s. staff never seemed interested in helping. then again, its probably because i'm brown. anyway, still don't see why you need an AR15

Because it's the best home defense weapon there is? There has always been a questionable debate about whether a shotgun or AR15 is a better defensive weapon. The answer always breaks down into what a person shoots better. I have more experience shooting a rifle since that is what I've shot before in both civilian and military areas. I have used a shotgun once. The same goes for my family in what their experience with home defensive weapons are.

So the choice for me is clear for a home defensive item. The fact that you are trying to question my choice of home protection and making it off as something dismissive is quite irrational.
 

purbeast0

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Because I stated from the beginning how and why with links and explanations. Mental anguish, and if my lawyer agrees is feasible, would stem from the fact the product was a gift for the holiday season and may be the only time left ever in my lifetime to do so. By DSGs intentional actions, they have failed to let me have that moment in time that has forever passed me by. Much as the wedding dress scenario I posted in a previous link. There is a reasonable basis, but it may not be enough on it's own to be arguable in court. Although awards for similar actions put forth have won before as well as lost before. There is case law showing both outcomes for this. It's really not that hard a concept to grasp like the first 4 times I explained it.

And as I stated previously, if I have to seek litigation as my last recourse, I WILL go for the most allowable under law.

And yes, you have trolled in this thread. Others have trolled far more than you, but you are guilty of it too here. Some people were genuinely interested in the actual details, such as waggy, despite their initial reaction where they stated I should not seek legal redress. Then when they learn the details, they change their minds. Waggy was not an initial supporter or my story, but he wasn't a troll and was willing to hear out all the details.

Others, like Corporate Thug and Outhouse, were trying to be more sophisticated trolls. I had to literally explain, with several other people helping me, 6 times why my sale in this case is considered a binding contract to Outhouse.

so anyone who disagrees with you is a troll - got it.
 
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