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Hooobi

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.22 Beretta with an 8-shot clip. I live in an apartment and wouldn't want to chance wiping out half my neighbors while shooting at some villian in the dark.

I've seen how many walls a .38 can shoot through and I figure a .22 is more than enough to suggest to a burglar that he might want to go elsewhere.... besides, the mob likes 'em so they gotta be good

 

Amused

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<< 29, Canadian (near Toronto), never seen a gun that wasn't in the holster of a police officer, and like it that way.

Most statistics from both the pro and anti-gun lobbies don't tend to sway me, especially comparisons of crime rates from different cities or even countries. Those stats are junk - there's no accounting for other factors.

Now, there are those who would suggest that revoking the right to bear arms will inevitably lead to a government that abuses its power. Then there are others who would suggest that this has already happened.

But really, what a pathetic argument. If you want to defend freedom, make informed votes on election day. The solution your right to bear arms would allow is too little, too late.

When I consider the scenarios where a gun would be desirable, they fall into two categories: plausible and implausible. Of the plausible kind, only my possesions are at stake. Last I knew, nobody wanted to kill me. And if it's a decision between losing a posession or introducing a gun (or a second gun) into the situation, I'll let the guy take the wallet, thank you.

Regards,
Craig
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The freedom we defend is not only that of our country (curiously, the only European country not to be invaded since Napolean is also the only European country with gun laws as liberal as the US, and a per capita gun ownership rate far higher than the US. Implausable? hardly), but of our individual selves. I refuse to abdicate my freedom by placing it in the hands of the next armed crack addict who decides to rob me by threatening my life with a leathal weapon. It is not me who will "introduce" a gun into the situation, but it WILL be (and has been) me who will counter a gun that has already been introduced.

If you choose to place your life in the hands of a man who has already proven he has no regard for your life by threatening to kill you over your possessions, that is your choice. However, how dare you make that choice for others. You can choose to be his bitch, I choose not to. When law abiding citizens choose to lay down and take it up the ass, criminals have a field day. In fact, it has long been known that criminals fear armed citizens fighting back far more than any threat of jail.
 

TapTap

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As I read this thread I almost vomit at statements like:
"Every hunter is a potential mass-murderer" You sir, are an idiot. A dangerous, uninformed idiot. And having a quote from Yeats in your sig is laughable.
"We need more gun laws" You sir, live in the state with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation. Yet your crime rate continues to grow. Why? Is the answer even more laws?
GUN CONTROL--Why is it that in a state such as Vermont, where concealed carry laws are in effect that allow nay, almost REQUEST citizens to carry a firearm for personal protection have the lowest per capita crime in the country? On par with Canada as someone pointed out, where guns are not allowed?
Where someone living in New York, Chicago, etc with ultra restrictions on guns have to deal with rampant crime, because only criminals are armed.
Sorry,
I grew up in Hialeah, a suburb of Miami, and many, many people have come out of scrapes with the criminal element because they had the permit to carry. They saved their own lives. And that is an important thing to consider. YOU are responsible for your own ASS, and those of your family. I believe in utilizing all the tools available to me under law to accomplish that. If they change things, well, snow be damned, we are moving to Vermont.
 

Lucky

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Our family owns a cattle ranch in NM where our extended relatives (aunts, uncles, grandparents) all live. I'd estimate that between the 15 family members living on the ranch, they probably have close to 80-90 guns. My cousin (20) recently got a glock 9mm to go in his personal truck's glove box. (loaded, no less.).

My other cousin, 24, recently bought a 50 caliber sniper rifle. I asked him what he used it for, and re said "anything within three miles that needs to be killed." :Q
 

Amused

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<< A little British linkage >>



Yep. And the UK's violent crime rate excluding murder has exceeded that of the US for a couple of years now. They have all but outlawed self defense, and the law abiding public is finding out what that has cost them.
 

Bigdude

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<< No! Guns are for penile-disadvantaged "children" who have yet to grow up and take on the world without their boy-toys! >>



People that don't own guns, are immature, and won't accept responsibility!
 

Bigdude

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Switzerland, has the highest gun ownership per capita, in the World, yet they have the lowest crime rate.
 

Bigdude

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<< The city I live in doesnt allow guns....isnt this unconstitional? :frown: >>



No it is not unconstitutional.
The second amendment says "A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

This means that the State has the right to form a militia, IE national gaurd. Check your states constitution here
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Read what is says, the right of the PEOPLE, not the right of the State!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Bigdude

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<< 29, Canadian (near Toronto), never seen a gun that wasn't in the holster of a police officer, and like it that way.

Most statistics from both the pro and anti-gun lobbies don't tend to sway me, especially comparisons of crime rates from different cities or even countries. Those stats are junk - there's no accounting for other factors.

Now, there are those who would suggest that revoking the right to bear arms will inevitably lead to a government that abuses its power. Then there are others who would suggest that this has already happened.

But really, what a pathetic argument. If you want to defend freedom, make informed votes on election day. The solution your right to bear arms would allow is too little, too late.

When I consider the scenarios where a gun would be desirable, they fall into two categories: plausible and implausible. Of the plausible kind, only my possesions are at stake. Last I knew, nobody wanted to kill me. And if it's a decision between losing a posession or introducing a gun (or a second gun) into the situation, I'll let the guy take the wallet, thank you.




Regards,
Craig
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You are a Coward, anyone that doesn't own a gun is a Coward!
 

Aelus

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<< [switzerland,] the only European country not to be invaded since Napolean is also the only European country with gun laws as liberal as the US, and a per capita gun ownership rate far higher than the US. >>



it's also one of the major laundry countries in the world, there's alot of polititians who prefer to use switzerland to store their cash than to invade it. Invasion of such a country is nearly impossible, because the swiss only have to guard like 5 tunnels, and the entire country is guarded.

The main reason switzerland wasn't attacked by hitler in the war, was because they expelled all the jewish people who ran there with their money, they supplied arms to hitler in exchange for stolen property from jewish people.

up to this day, switzerland refuses to give jewish families the money which was deposited back then.

The main reason no politician ever works to make switzerland refund that money, is because nearly ever successful politician has dirty money, and what better place to deposit that money than switzerland?

Aelus
 

JonnyDuke

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Well it's nice to see everyone keeping things civil here. I would say more but it has already been said by many people.... and yes, I own many guns. I think we should reduce restrictions on what types of weapons civilians can own. After all, does it matter if my M-16 can fire 700 rpm
on it's own or do so because I can pull the trigger really fast? The only limits I would find acceptable is on eploding projectiles like grenades and bloop guns. Just because I could see someone tearing one apart to see how they work and wiping out half his house.

Funny how all the Brits forget to mention that even the Bobbies are asking for guns now. Maybe not all of them and maybe quietly but more each year.

Anyway here is a link for everyone to share.
 

ToBeMe

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<< No! Guns are for penile-disadvantaged "children" who have yet to grow up and take on the world without their boy-toys! >>


Sorry.......but that's BS! Why someone would even make such an infintile comment leads to many other questions about the person, but, I shall honor the wishes of the orginator of this thread and not go into that..............
 

lowlevel

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Nope, I had to choose... guns or the wife.










Hey...waitaminute!!! That's a win/win situation!!!!


 

Amused

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<<

<< [switzerland,] the only European country not to be invaded since Napolean is also the only European country with gun laws as liberal as the US, and a per capita gun ownership rate far higher than the US. >>



it's also one of the major laundry countries in the world, there's alot of polititians who prefer to use switzerland to store their cash than to invade it. Invasion of such a country is nearly impossible, because the swiss only have to guard like 5 tunnels, and the entire country is guarded.

The main reason switzerland wasn't attacked by hitler in the war, was because they expelled all the jewish people who ran there with their money, they supplied arms to hitler in exchange for stolen property from jewish people.

up to this day, switzerland refuses to give jewish families the money which was deposited back then.

The main reason no politician ever works to make switzerland refund that money, is because nearly ever successful politician has dirty money, and what better place to deposit that money than switzerland?

Aelus
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Nice try, but not entirely accurate.
 

Aceman

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I do not own A gun. I own 7:

Ruger 10/22 .22 cal
Mosberg 12 guage pump
Springfield .22
AR 15 carbine (built myself)
Over/under 20 guage/.22
S&W .38 police action
.380 Saturday Night Special
 

olds

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<< I've said it before and I'll say it again: every hunter is a potential mass murderer. >>



And because you (presumably) have a penis, you're a potential rapist.

Just because you are unfamiliar with and are scared by an inanimate object (i.e. a firearm), that is no reason to demonize those who do own them.
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LOL, G1
 

Ramses

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FAL(s)
m1911
SKS
M1
M14

one should be as self suffecient as possible, you owe that to your society and your species.

If you arent atleast profecient with a firearm of some sort, you could quite easily be baggage that needs to be cared for and protected.

 
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