do you own any guns?

[jemcam]

Numerous:

2 12 ga. shotguns, one single shot, one pump
1 .45 cal m1911a1 pistol
1 .38 cal Ladysmith
1 .357 Colt King Cobra
1 m1 carbine
1 .32 cal pos
1 9mm baretta

oh yeah, forgot my double barrel savage 16 ga. shotgun. I may come up with more.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: jemcam
Numerous:

2 12 ga. shotguns, one single shot, one pump
1 .45 cal m1911a1 pistol
1 .38 cal Ladysmith
1 .357 Colt King Cobra
1 m1 carbine
1 .32 cal pos
1 9mm baretta

Remind me not to piss you off.

 

[jemcam]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: jemcam
Numerous:

2 12 ga. shotguns, one single shot, one pump
1 .45 cal m1911a1 pistol
1 .38 cal Ladysmith
1 .357 Colt King Cobra
1 m1 carbine
1 .32 cal pos
1 9mm baretta

Remind me not to piss you off.

Oh, you've forgotten, you have. Remember the frame argument?

 

[niwi7]

guns are retarted


lets say someone breaks into your house you say OH CRAP lemme go unlock my box and whip out my gun...then u show the guy u have a gun he will try and shoot u just as fast as u can try and shoot him.....u have a good chance of dying....and i know you would say you have a good chance of dying w/o a gun too but i mean if i saw a guy tryin to break in id grab the cell fone and jump out the window or sompin call the cops not go running at him and have a shootout in my living room


so if thats your reason to have a gun ur retarted (unless u r really stealthy, have some super gun cabinet that no1 can get into except you and you can get into it fast, and have GR8 AIM)

the only reason there is to have a gun is to hunt

and if you have a gun but not for hunting or protection just to "look at" and "shoot targets" then ur the kinda guy who flips out at his life and goes into a mcdonals and opens fire killing eveyrone


thank you and have a nice day

 

[niwi7]

oh 1 more thing--- if you just wanna "shoot targets" buy an airsoft gun or a bb gun......just had my firend pick me up an airsoft deagle and hes comin home w/ it for me tomorw (it was cheap on his trip he went to lake george, ny)

so i will have fun shooting that and if i hit sum1 they wont die they will say ow

another reason not to have a gun

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: niwi7
guns are retarted


lets say someone breaks into your house you say OH CRAP lemme go unlock my box and whip out my gun...then u show the guy u have a gun he will try and shoot u just as fast as u can try and shoot him.....u have a good chance of dying....and i know you would say you have a good chance of dying w/o a gun too but i mean if i saw a guy tryin to break in id grab the cell fone and jump out the window or sompin call the cops not go running at him and have a shootout in my living room


so if thats your reason to have a gun ur retarted (unless u r really stealthy, have some super gun cabinet that no1 can get into except you and you can get into it fast, and have GR8 AIM)

the only reason there is to have a gun is to hunt

and if you have a gun but not for hunting or protection just to "look at" and "shoot targets" then ur the kinda guy who flips out at his life and goes into a mcdonals and opens fire killing eveyrone


thank you and have a nice day

Wow, what blatant idiocy.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: niwi7
guns are retarted


lets say someone breaks into your house you say OH CRAP lemme go unlock my box and whip out my gun...then u show the guy u have a gun he will try and shoot u just as fast as u can try and shoot him.....u have a good chance of dying....and i know you would say you have a good chance of dying w/o a gun too but i mean if i saw a guy tryin to break in id grab the cell fone and jump out the window or sompin call the cops not go running at him and have a shootout in my living room


so if thats your reason to have a gun ur retarted (unless u r really stealthy, have some super gun cabinet that no1 can get into except you and you can get into it fast, and have GR8 AIM)

the only reason there is to have a gun is to hunt

and if you have a gun but not for hunting or protection just to "look at" and "shoot targets" then ur the kinda guy who flips out at his life and goes into a mcdonals and opens fire killing eveyrone


thank you and have a nice day

GunVault

Mine's pretty damn cool too. Next question...

 

[niwi7]

lol u just answered how to keep them


like i said what the hell can u do if a guy busts into your house aims a gun @ u and says gimme ur stuff

hold on a sec lemme just open this gun case so we can have a shootout in the bedroom rite here hold on...oh here it is ok lets go....

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: niwi7
lol u just answered how to keep them


like i said what the hell can u do if a guy busts into your house aims a gun @ u and says gimme ur stuff

hold on a sec lemme just open this gun case so we can have a shootout in the bedroom rite here hold on...oh here it is ok lets go....

Well ghetto man a lot of people have houses bigger than one room. And have alarms, it's kinda eat.

Plus a lot of folks just keep them in the nightstand. If you don't have kids around there's no reason to have it locked up

 

[niwi7]

ok

still i would never keep a gun not locked up no kids or not


anyway


do you EVER see articles in the news where sum1 shot a bad guy breakin into his house?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: niwi7
lol u just answered how to keep them


like i said what the hell can u do if a guy busts into your house aims a gun @ u and says gimme ur stuff

hold on a sec lemme just open this gun case so we can have a shootout in the bedroom rite here hold on...oh here it is ok lets go....

You know what, you're right, I think I'll sell all my guns, oh wait, I started collecting guns after I was assaulted by a guy who could have killed me before the cops arrived, and then there's the time 2 guys were beating me up & I pulled a gun & fired it, stopping the assault..., BTW, they were caught days later by the police & went to jail & were subsequently convicted of aggravated assault, & I didn't even have a CCW permit @ the time...

We won't even mention the inner city riots that happen, cuz a lot of them don't make the evening news nationwide...

Wake up, you've been brainwashed by a liberal media bias that doesn't bother to report assaults & robberies that are stopped by law abiding gun owners...

News journalists used to be veterans that knew not only how to use guns, but used them in wartime, now-days, news writers/anchors don't know the difference between a bolt action hunting rifle & a full automatic military weapon. They're not only biased, but they don't know WTF they're talking about in the first place...

BTW, here's aninteresting link you may find useful in the future: Non gun related

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: niwi7
ok

still i would never keep a gun not locked up no kids or not

Hope you don't live in Texas, it's a crime not to lock up your guns.

 

[niwi7]

pliable--- first of all reread my post i said you MUST lock up your guns not to NOT lock up your guns (i said not not so it mitve been confusing i use lots of shorthand on computer as u can c)

second of all if you live in an xtreme crappy area maybe ur right i mean if it saved your a$$ twice thats fantastic...still i think this is just some random experience

i thnik usually peolpe who have gotten attacked or had a close encounter with almost getting killed or beaten are the peolpe who are pro-gun....never happened to me but if it does maybe ill change my ideas for now they stay the same

dont walk in the ghetto @ nite with bills hangin outta pockets

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: niwi7
pliable--- first of all reread my post i said you MUST lock up your guns not to NOT lock up your guns (i said not not so it mitve been confusing i use lots of shorthand on computer as u can c)

second of all if you live in an xtreme crappy area maybe ur right i mean if it saved your a$$ twice thats fantastic...still i think this is just some random experience

i thnik usually peolpe who have gotten attacked or had a close encounter with almost getting killed or beaten are the peolpe who are pro-gun....never happened to me but if it does maybe ill change my ideas for now they stay the same

dont walk in the ghetto @ nite with bills hangin outta pockets

Never been attacked or beated, I'm pro-gun. Responsible gun ownership is part of the fabric of this country and is a basic right granted by the Constitution.


Out of curiousity, how old are you? If your typing manner is any indicator, I would guess around 16.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: niwi7
pliable--- first of all reread my post i said you MUST lock up your guns not to NOT lock up your guns (i said not not so it mitve been confusing i use lots of shorthand on computer as u can c)

second of all if you live in an xtreme crappy area maybe ur right i mean if it saved your a$$ twice thats fantastic...still i think this is just some random experience

i thnik usually peolpe who have gotten attacked or had a close encounter with almost getting killed or beaten are the peolpe who are pro-gun....never happened to me but if it does maybe ill change my ideas for now they stay the same

dont walk in the ghetto @ nite with bills hangin outta pockets

1st one was in my suburban yard, wife's drunk ex wanted to pick up his daughter, I wouldn't allow him to take her (9 years old). I stopped them, but also got pounded pretty good in the process.

Don't have the time to detail the specifics of 2nd assault, but it wasn't the ghetto.

BTW, I had gone from growing up with guns in the house & belonging to rifle Club in HS to a pacifist before the assaults, sold all my guns & didn't think they were necessary. Now I do.

Recent stats in DFW area show a 300% increase in murders, and the stats suggest 1 in 10 will be a victim of violent crime this year.

03' stats

 

[Acts837]

Originally posted by: niwi7
oh 1 more thing--- if you just wanna "shoot targets" buy an airsoft gun or a bb gun......just had my firend pick me up an airsoft deagle and hes comin home w/ it for me tomorw (it was cheap on his trip he went to lake george, ny)

so i will have fun shooting that and if i hit sum1 they wont die they will say ow

another reason not to have a gun

In 1994 I shot on the Marine Corps Rifle Team. Camp Perry Ohio was a blast (similiar to the Olympics just for shooters). Sorry there niwi7 but air guns don't fit the bill. I own handguns and rifles. They are the tools of my trade!

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: niwi7
guns are retarted


lets say someone breaks into your house you say OH CRAP lemme go unlock my box and whip out my gun...then u show the guy u have a gun he will try and shoot u just as fast as u can try and shoot him.....u have a good chance of dying....and i know you would say you have a good chance of dying w/o a gun too but i mean if i saw a guy tryin to break in id grab the cell fone and jump out the window or sompin call the cops not go running at him and have a shootout in my living room


so if thats your reason to have a gun ur retarted (unless u r really stealthy, have some super gun cabinet that no1 can get into except you and you can get into it fast, and have GR8 AIM)

the only reason there is to have a gun is to hunt

and if you have a gun but not for hunting or protection just to "look at" and "shoot targets" then ur the kinda guy who flips out at his life and goes into a mcdonals and opens fire killing eveyrone


thank you and have a nice day

You need to get outside of your obviously sheltered life and see what it's like in the real world. There are some bad f'n people out there, and sometimes you need to be prepared for bad things to happen. I think there should be some tighter restrictions on firearms sales (for those with criminal records or diagnosed with psychological issues), but I still feel that the average citizen SHOULD have the right to protect themselves. I will soon be a police officer, but I can say that I'd rather show up to a scene where a homeowner has shot and killed an intruder than show up to see an injured (or killed) citizen who's just been robbed blind because he couldn't protect themselves.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: niwi7
guns are retarted


lets say someone breaks into your house you say OH CRAP lemme go unlock my box and whip out my gun...then u show the guy u have a gun he will try and shoot u just as fast as u can try and shoot him.....u have a good chance of dying....and i know you would say you have a good chance of dying w/o a gun too but i mean if i saw a guy tryin to break in id grab the cell fone and jump out the window or sompin call the cops not go running at him and have a shootout in my living room


so if thats your reason to have a gun ur retarted (unless u r really stealthy, have some super gun cabinet that no1 can get into except you and you can get into it fast, and have GR8 AIM)

the only reason there is to have a gun is to hunt

and if you have a gun but not for hunting or protection just to "look at" and "shoot targets" then ur the kinda guy who flips out at his life and goes into a mcdonals and opens fire killing eveyrone


thank you and have a nice day

nitwit actually has a point. Too bad it's at the top of his head.
But consider this:
If a meteorite was to crash through your ceiling at 10,000 miles per hour, what good would your gun do you then?
BTW nitwit, please learn to spell. Your lack of education is shining through.

 

[Viper0329]

1 30/30
1 Remington 870 2 3/4" 12 Gauge w/ 30 inch barrel

 

[tcsenter]

do you EVER see articles in the news where sum1 shot a bad guy breakin into his house?

I see them, but unfortunately, the media often doesn't report them, and even when they do, sensationalism (fear-mongering) wins over accuracy.

Case in point:

In Flint, Michigan about (my memory is failing here) 15 years ago, an elderly man with a heart condition, teathered to an oxygen tank, shot and killed his son-in-law. The son-in-law was a drunken bum with a long criminal record who on several previous occassions had slapped the old man around and stolen his money when he ran out of drugs. On the night in question, despite being the subject of a PP order forbidding him to have any contact with the father-in-law, he paid a visit to the old man for this very reason.

He pushed passed the door when the old man tried to shut it, knocking the old man to the ground. The son-in-law's BAC was three times the legal driving limit. He taunted the old man, pushed him around, told him to shut up, then began rifling through the old man's belongings looking for money. The old man, fearing another beating, went to the closet and retrieved a loaded shotgun.

Upon seeing the old man holding the gun, the son-in-law began to taunt and threaten him, telling him that he better pull the trigger because he will regret it once the son-in-law takes that gun away and beats him with it. The old man ordered the son-in-law to leave several times, but when the son-in-law grabbed the barrel of the gun, the old man pulled the trigger and killed the son-in-law instantly.

No charges were filed against the elderly man, the prosecutor ruling the shooting to be a clear-cut case of justified self-defense.

However, the Flint Journal seems to have heard a different 'version' of the events. The headline of the 'write-up' in the next day's paper read (and I'm paraphrasing here because I don't recall the precise wording, but its close): "Family Dispute Turns Tragic Over Gun"

The write-up gave only scant details, essentialy portraying the incident as a family argument that turned violent 'because a gun was in the home', when in fact, it was a bona fide case of self-defense against a violent criminal (the family tie being largely irrelevant to the nature of the crime).

 

[Rogue9]

niwi7:
Read this. If your attention span is long enough.

Back to the question the thread asks, I don't own ANY guns, Mr. ATF man. No, none at all.

 

[Konigin]

Yes, more than I care to count right now.

 

[Orsorum]

Alright, I know I will probably get much more info than I would care to just at the moment.

I, hopefully, will someday own a home in the country (in Seattle right now, I despise the city, but I am forced to live here because that's where my University is). I'd like to get into target shooting and maybe some big-game hunting. I already have a Remington 20 gauge pump, .22 competition pistol, .22 pump, a 12 gauge over-under, and a 12 gauge side by side coming my way in about ten years (about the same time I'd actually be able to move to the country). I know that my father has a .30-06 that he used for some big-game hunting in Wyoming back in the day (he hasn't been in ~5 years).

Would I just be able to use this, or would I be better off buying a different kind of rifle for long-range target shooting? (i.e. wanna be sniper in the making). I apologize for not knowing more about his .30-06, I've shot it once in my lifetime. Most of the other weapons I have significantly more experience with.

In the same vein, if I did want to purchase a more powerful sidearm to carry (eventually), is there any particular characteristic I should be looking for? Or should I go ask a gun dealer what they recommend and if they would let me try a few different calibers and models?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Rogue9
niwi7:
Read this. If your attention span is long enough.

Back to the question the thread asks, I don't own ANY guns, Mr. ATF man. No, none at all.

It is sometimes tough to get a job. It is also, right now, easier to rob people than it is to work for money. It's easier because it can be gotten away with. These people believe no one will stop them. They're right. No one will. Not the police, not the courts, not the penal system. No one but the growing number of us who have decided we will not be victimized again, ever.

By far, one of the best paragraphs I've read in a long time.

 

[keeler]

There are a NUMBER of articles related to people having defended themselves; as was said, they are often published in a bad light. I think the FIRST rule should be EDUCATION!! I was pleasantly surprised that when I got my conceled
weapon permit in Texas, that there is a MANDATORY 12 hours class that must be taken!! In Pa., it is MUCH easier, and it seems little or no class is required!
There will ALWAYS be the DIPSH!TS that see it as a MACHO deal... THOSE are the ones ya worry about (Like the ranger friend of my daughter's, that was DUMB enough not to practice safety, and fired a round through her window with one of my handguns.) Ya should learn to RESPECT the piece, and what you and it are capable of.
They ARE dangerous; but I think for many it comes down to which is worse?? The snake in yer hand, that YOU can control, or all those other snakes that can pop out on ya at ANY time!!

INVENTORY!!
GLOCK 19 for carry (locked and loaded)
S.A. 1911-a1 on the bed stand with clips beside it
Single six for plinkin
Blackhorn .22 for what-ever!!




Rick