DOES ATLANTIS EXIST?!

[shifrbv]

There are still some other areas that are mysterious.

For example,

The granite coffer in the King's Chamber is too big to fit through the passages and so it must have been put in place during construction. Microscopic analysis of the coffer reveals that it was made with a fixed point drill that used hard jewel bits and a drilling force of 2 tons. The coffer was sawed out of a block of solid granite. This would have required bronze saws 8-9 ft. long set with teeth of sapphires. Hollowing out of the interior would require tubular drills of the same material applied with a tremendous vertical force.

2 tons of drilling force from people who didn't even have the wheel? Seems amazing.

 

[Aihyah]

just because his explanation is wrong doesn't mean there isn't a rational one. last i heard large blocks of stone were split by using expanding wood wedges getting soaked in water.

 

[shifrbv]

just because his explanation is wrong doesn't mean there isn't a rational one. last i heard large blocks of stone were split by using expanding wood wedges getting soaked in water.

I can see doing this for the softer limestone which was used for the core. But cutting granite? Today you'd need a diamond tipped saw to do that. It's amazing that these people could come up with all these mathematical configurations and use jewel tipped drills with 2 tons of force and sawing methods, but couldn't think about using the wheel or getting past working with basic metals of copper or gold.

That's like me getting lucky on building a teleportation device without really understanding at this point any of the physics behind it. If I brought one out today, I'm sure people would wonder where I got the help for it.

 

[Aihyah]

As a young man, Denys Stocks was obsessed with the Egyptians. For the past 20 years, this ancient-tools specialist has been recreating tools the Egyptians might have used. He believes Egyptians were able to cut and carve granite by adding a dash of one of Egypt's most common materials: sand.

"We're going to put sand inside the groove and we're going to put the saw on top of the sand," Stocks says. "Then we're going to let the sand do the cutting."

It does. The weight of the copper saw rubs the sand crystals, which are as hard as granite, against the stone. A groove soon appears in the granite. It's clear that this technique works well and could have been used by the ancient Egyptians.

Hopkins' experience working with stone leads him to believe that one more ingredient, even more basic than sand, will improve the efficiency of the granite cutting: water. Water, Hopkins argues, will wash away dust that acts as a buffer to the sand, slowing the progress.

Adding water, though, makes it harder to pull the copper saw back and forth. While Hopkins is convinced water improves the speed of work, Stocks' measurements show that the rate of cutting is the same whether water is used or not
Besides cutting clean surfaces on their granite, the Egyptians also drilled cylindrical holes into their stones. A hole eight inches in diameter was found drilled in a granite block at the Temple of Karnak.

"Even with modern tools -- stone chisels and diamond wheels -- we would have a tough time doing such fine work in granite," says Hopkins.

Stocks was brought along to test his theories about how the cores were drilled. Inspired by a bow drill seen in an ancient Egyptian wall painting, Stocks designs a home-made bow drill. He wraps rope around a copper pipe that the Egyptians could have forged. Hopkins and Lehner then pull back and forth on the bow, which is weighted from above. The pipe spins in place, rubbing the sand, which etches a circle into the stone. With the assistance of the sand, the turning copper pipe succeeds in cutting a hole into the granite slab.
With the aid of a bow drill and sand, the pipe has cut a circular hole into the stone. But how can the drillers get the central core out?

Stocks wedges two chisels into the circular groove. The core breaks off at its base. Stocks reaches in and plucks it out, leaving a hole behind not unlike the ones once cut by the Egyptians.



taken from nova website, apparently you don't look very hard for your answers. Saying that space monkeys that flew out of your butt created the pyramids is easy to do, but thats about it.http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lostempires/obelisk/cutting05.html

 

[lowtech1]

Paleolithic Period the Beginnings of Human culture: 30,000 - 10,000 BC
30,000 to 25,000 BC: Woman of Willendorf
27,000 to 23,000 BC: Dolni Vestonice
25,000 - 12,000 BC: Venus Figures
18,000 BC: Chauvet cave, France
15,000 BC: Lascaux cave paintings
14,000 to 10,000 BC: Altamira Cave Paintings

Neolithic Period: The Agricultural Revolution and the Beginnings of Settled Existence: 10,000 BC - 5,500 BC
And, Primary Urbanization: The First Cities: 3,300 BC- AD 400
10,000 BC: First agricultural villages
10,000 BC: Invention of the bow and arrow
10,000 BC: Dogs and reindeer are domesticated
10,000 BC: Beginnings of settled agriculture
10,000 BC: Earliest pottery (Japan)
8,000 BC: Sheep and goats are domesticated
8,000 BC: Beginnings of rice cultivation in East Asia
8, 500 BC: Jericho is founded
6, 000 BC: Village of Ban Po in China
5,500 BC: Catal Huyuk
4000 BC: The Culture of Vra
3,300 BC: First Sumerian cities
3100 BC: Beginnings of Egyptian civilization
2000 BC: Stonehenge
2500 BC: Harappan Civilization
1800 BC: Shang dynasty in China
1200 BC: Olmec culture in Mesoamerica
500 BC to AD 400: Adena and Hopewell Cultures
0 BC to 1500 AD: Plain of Jars Laos.
AD 400: Jenne-Jeno in Nigeria
AD 700 to 1731: Mississippian Culture.



<< These structures were all build around 11,500 BC >>


There is no known structure that was dated back that far.

The smooth-walled pyramids at Giza Egypt, some "Historian/Archeology" suggest that the "ground plan" was established in 10,500bc...but more likely that there may have been human settlement dated back that far. Carbon-date suggested that the pyramids were built around 2,500 bc.

Tres Zapotes, Mexico is an Olmec site date 1300 400 bc.



<< Egyptian Pyramids are tombs. The American "pyramids" are temples. People are burried in the Egyptian Pyramids. People were killed on the American "pyramids". >>


Egyptian Pyramid rise from 51 to about 43 degrees on a single pyramid or the common steep 51 degrees, while the Teotihuacan/Tikal/Chichen Iza is rise at a steady 45 degrees.
Egyptian Pyramid is built as tombs therefore the addition tombs may be add closer the to the parent tombs, but not over lay layers like the Mayans pyramids.
Yes some people may have been killed on those temples but no more than the Egyptian?it is a myth that the Mayan/Aztec did it as a common practice. There have been suggestions that the Egyptian may have kill insolence/people in/on those Pyramids as a warning for the misguided slaves.

There may have been a loss utopian culture that we dub Alantis, but there isn?t enough evidence to conclude that is may have existed.

 

[Dark4ng3l]

This is scaring me I have some of my own theories about certain things and I guess I beleve that kicking their ass is worth it to find out more about the pyramids and stuff

 

[krakken]

uh. lets see, i'd say no.