Does my brother fail @ life?

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Hacp

Lifer
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Yes, it would have. Make him stand on his own two feet. Not only is your brother "fail", but so are your parents for not pushing him out when he needed to be.

This is again what's wrong with modern society. Why must everyone need to be on their own? To be independent? That just adds to expenses! This is a big reason why America spends more than it saves. Frugality is a lost art. Everyone must have their own cell phone. Every room must have their own TV. And everyone needs to move into their own house. Why can't people share a phone? Why can't people share a TV? Why can't one share a house?
 

TridenT

Lifer
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This is again what's wrong with modern society. Why must everyone need to be on their own? To be independent? That just adds to expenses! This is a big reason why America spends more than it saves. Frugality is a lost art. Everyone must have their own cell phone. Every room must have their own TV. And everyone needs to move into their own house. Why can't people share a phone? Why can't people share a TV? Why can't one share a house?

Why can't people share a cock? SRSLY!

I'm tired of how selfish America is becoming!!!
 

Pacfanweb

Lifer
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This is again what's wrong with modern society. Why must everyone need to be on their own? To be independent? That just adds to expenses! This is a big reason why America spends more than it saves. Frugality is a lost art. Everyone must have their own cell phone. Every room must have their own TV. And everyone needs to move into their own house. Why can't people share a phone? Why can't people share a TV? Why can't one share a house?

Because the parents won't be around forever. What does the mooching brother do then, without his safety net?

Nobody's saying he should buy a house, but he should maybe move into an apartment with a couple of friends or something.

It's natural to WANT to move away from Mom and Dad, to live your own life, and oh, I don't know, maybe meet some women? Hard to do when you live with Mommy and Daddy.
 

Hacp

Lifer
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Because the parents won't be around forever. What does the mooching brother do then, without his safety net?

Nobody's saying he should buy a house, but he should maybe move into an apartment with a couple of friends or something.

It's natural to WANT to move away from Mom and Dad, to live your own life, and oh, I don't know, maybe meet some women? Hard to do when you live with Mommy and Daddy.

It is far from natural. In fact, for ages, staying with your parents was the norm! The culture we developed happened because of social security. Children could cleanse themselves of personal responsibility to stay with and look after their parents in their later years because of that.
 

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Lifer
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Because the parents won't be around forever. What does the mooching brother do then, without his safety net?

Nobody's saying he should buy a house, but he should maybe move into an apartment with a couple of friends or something.

It's natural to WANT to move away from Mom and Dad, to live your own life, and oh, I don't know, maybe meet some women? Hard to do when you live with Mommy and Daddy.

Uh, he doesn't have to worry about it because he has a job? :hmm: Derp.

Waste of money. Financially irresponsible.

Not always. Maybe he has no interest in sex. If you don't bring up that you live with your parents, or you just lie, then it really isn't any different... You can always have sex at her place. Derp derp... Then maybe when she actually accepts you for who you are then she can be OK with the fact you live with your parents to save money because you don't like wasting money. Oh, and maybe you don't actually have shitty parents, and maybe your parents are actually fun to be around. I know, those are rare, because people are shit in general, but they do exist.
 

Pacfanweb

Lifer
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It is far from natural. In fact, for ages, staying with your parents was the norm! The culture we developed happened because of social security. Children could cleanse themselves of personal responsibility to stay with and look after their parents in their later years because of that.
Bull fucking shit.

SS had nothing to do with it. People were moving out to get away from Mommy and Daddy LONG before SS ever was implemented.

Again, it's natural. Maybe not if you're living 30 miles from anyone else and your only method of transportation was your feet or a horse, but ever since cities, jobs and lots of opportunity has been available, this has been the norm.

And it's ALWAYS been the norm that a MAN would want to have his own place. That's just natural. MEN want their own place, where they can do their own thing and not answer to anyone.
 

TridenT

Lifer
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Bull fucking shit.

SS had nothing to do with it. People were moving out to get away from Mommy and Daddy LONG before SS ever was implemented.

Again, it's natural. Maybe not if you're living 30 miles from anyone else and your only method of transportation was your feet or a horse, but ever since cities, jobs and lots of opportunity has been available, this has been the norm.

And it's ALWAYS been the norm that a MAN would want to have his own place. That's just natural. MEN want their own place, where they can do their own thing and not answer to anyone.

How about you just go fucking burn the world down since you're such a fucking man. I'd love to see you gunned down.



Whoa, way over the line. See you in awhile to be determined.


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Hacp

Lifer
Jun 8, 2005
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Bull fucking shit.

SS had nothing to do with it. People were moving out to get away from Mommy and Daddy LONG before SS ever was implemented.

Again, it's natural. Maybe not if you're living 30 miles from anyone else and your only method of transportation was your feet or a horse, but ever since cities, jobs and lots of opportunity has been available, this has been the norm.

And it's ALWAYS been the norm that a MAN would want to have his own place. That's just natural. MEN want their own place, where they can do their own thing and not answer to anyone.

No, Man wants to take over his family riches and claim them as his own. Only the rejected sons are forced to move out of the house and find an alternate path to prosperity.
 

Pacfanweb

Lifer
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Uh, he doesn't have to worry about it because he has a job? :hmm: Derp.

Waste of money. Financially irresponsible.

Not always. Maybe he has no interest in sex.
Then there's something wrong with him.

If you don't bring up that you live with your parents, or you just lie, then it really isn't any different... You can always have sex at her place. Derp derp...
DUH...then you are admitting that most women would have a problem with this.

Then maybe when she actually accepts you for who you are then she can be OK with the fact you live with your parents to save money because you don't like wasting money.
Good luck with that

Oh, and maybe you don't actually have shitty parents, and maybe your parents are actually fun to be around. I know, those are rare, because people are shit in general, but they do exist.
And it's still the natural tendency in most men to want their own place, so they can do their own thing, and be their own man.
With kids who don't really have this tendency, they need a little coercing to be a responsible adult and learn to take care of life themselves. This happens everywhere, all through nature, and it always has.
 

Pacfanweb

Lifer
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How about you just go fucking burn the world down since you're such a fucking man. I'd love to see you gunned down.

Yeah, I'm sure my kids, ages 5 and 7, would be much better off.

Typical keyboard commando....run out of wit and resorts to insults. What a pathetic little person you are.

That post is really over the line, even with the looser rules here. No place for that...if you can't hang without making comments like this, get the hell out of the thread.
 
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TridenT

Lifer
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Then there's something wrong with him.

DUH...then you are admitting that most women would have a problem with this.

Good luck with that


And it's still the natural tendency in most men to want their own place, so they can do their own thing, and be their own man.
With kids who don't really have this tendency, they need a little coercing to be a responsible adult and learn to take care of life themselves. This happens everywhere, all through nature, and it always has.

Uh, yeah, because most women, like you, are dipshits, and like most of the society. Unless he finds someone with half a brain, who understands things, then I really doubt he's going to get far by telling the truth.

We don't live in the fucking wild anymore you idiot. The shit doesn't stay the same. We adapted to our new environment and our new environment is VERY different.

Again, read my other post because it's what you should try.
 

TridenT

Lifer
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Yeah, I'm sure my kids, ages 5 and 7, would be much better off.

Typical keyboard commando....run out of wit and resorts to insults. What a pathetic little person you are.

That post is really over the line, even with the looser rules here. No place for that...if you can't hang without making comments like this, get the hell out of the thread.

You're going over the line with your sexist comments.
 

Pacfanweb

Lifer
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You're going over the line with your sexist comments.

Incorrect. I made no sexist comments. I stated what a man's natural tendency is, and I am correct.
Men have always been providers. That is how nature wired us. Period, end of story, it is a FACT.
A provider's natural tendency is therefore...to PROVIDE. Provide a home. Food. Transportation. etc.
 

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Lifer
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Incorrect. I made no sexist comments. I stated what a man's natural tendency is, and I am correct.

Right... so, since that's natural why don't we just rape, kill, and conquer all because that's "natural" too.

Fuck, arsenic is natural too... Let's fucking put it in our coffee and drink it down.
 

Pacfanweb

Lifer
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Right... so, since that's natural why don't we just rape, kill, and conquer all because that's "natural" too.

Fuck, arsenic is natural too... Let's fucking put it in our coffee and drink it down.

Hyperbole much? Yeah, just take a basic comment and run it out to any irrelevant extreme you see fit.
 

Pacfanweb

Lifer
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Just because it conflicts what you believe as morally correct doesn't mean it's irrelevant.
You might want to go look up "hyperbole". Because this post in response to my last one makes absolutely no sense. As did the one I responded to last time.
 

TridenT

Lifer
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You might want to go look up "hyperbole". Because this post in response to my last one makes absolutely no sense. As did the one I responded to last time.

Alright buddy. Let me connect the dots for you since you're not very good at this. (Even I suck at this sometimes)

Because the parents won't be around forever. What does the mooching brother do then, without his safety net?

Nobody's saying he should buy a house, but he should maybe move into an apartment with a couple of friends or something.

It's natural to WANT to move away from Mom and Dad, to live your own life, and oh, I don't know, maybe meet some women? Hard to do when you live with Mommy and Daddy.

Let's break down what you said for you and show you why you're failing, so hard. (Wish ATOT had bigger text boxes) The bolded above shows some key points. You said that he should maybe move into an apartment with a couple friends, and sort of implying that he should be the king of his own domain eventually(If you didn't imply that, you have an even more flawed ideology because what's the difference between being in an apartment with friends vs your parents? There's not much difference because all pay the rent and all could die at anytime... there goes your "safety net" for the rent), and you insisted that this was NATURAL. That's a key point of your ideology... It's natural... Ok, well, a lot of shit is "natural." That's why I showed the things that are "extremes," but really they're about the most common thing there is in the nature of humanity. So, they're not extreme at all, they're normal and NATURAL... Extreme is everyone getting along without those things. That doesn't happen for long. That's extreme.

Oh, and you did say things that were sexist. Refer to the last bolded part in your quote. You just didn't think it was sexist, but it is. Another thing you said was that then there is something wrong with him if he doesn't want sex or he doesn't feel the need to move out of his parents house or whatever it was you were referring to in my words. The first part is your gender roles bullshit going on fire because you feel that all men should want sex (because it's NATURAL I bet...). The second part is just some insecurity about being with parents when you're past 18 or some stupid age you feel must meet societies standards.

Anyway, long post.

Ninja edit: Btw, you know many cultures that the parents setup the kids with whom they're going to be with right? And those couples can live with their parents for all their life... You know your bullshit is just typical American cultural hateofanythingnotAmerican on Spidey levels...
 

DrunkenSano

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And it's ALWAYS been the norm that a MAN would want to have his own place. That's just natural. MEN want their own place, where they can do their own thing and not answer to anyone.

The OP's brother may be a mooch and a loser but to have blanket statement that all men should move out as soon as possible is wrong. What the norm is and should be is that a MAN who is a responsible ADULT will do what is financially responsible. Six years ago, moving out as soon as you can afford it would be fine because the housing market was still on the up. Right now, with the state of the economy and house market, moving out just to move out isn't being a man, it is being an idiot. That is why we're in the situation in the first place, too many idiots trying to be "MEN" taking out loans when they can't afford it.

Wanting to move out is great, independence does give you a new experience and skill set in life. But it's more important to be financially responsible as well and if you you end up losing tens of thousands of dollars just to move out, the it is downright retarded.
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
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Alright buddy. Let me connect the dots for you since you're not very good at this. (Even I suck at this sometimes)


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For someone who has never lived with anybody but his parents, you should stop posting. Shit, you're a bigger failure than this brother. Do you make your own meals, buy your own household items, wash your own laundry, do your own grocery shopping, pay your own utility bills, manage your own money? No.

Living with roommates is much different than parents, night and day. My first job was out of state, I rented an apt with some friends of friends from college. When I moved back closer to home, I rented an apt with friends from college.
 

alevasseur14

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Well, this thread certainly made my day! Let's make 'to be determined a long, long time, shall we?

My brother turned 22 this July and still lives at home. He barely graduated from HS (where I'm from you'd have to TRY to not graduate) and has made a lot of poor decisions over the last 6-8 years. That said, I think I'd be more worried about him if he didn't live at home. He tried moving in with friends in the Twin Cities area last year and I had to save his ass twice in the month or so he was down here.

Maybe he knows he doesn't like being 'on his own' or maybe he just can't handle it. Either way, I don't really care. He's still my brother and I'm not going to try and tell him all of the things he should have done differently.
 
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