Dragon Age 3: Inquisition announced

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Bateluer

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Does anyone else find the party line up disappointing?

We can't really comment on how they'll play out in the game. Bioware's RPGs usually don't have complete trash characters. I won't make any opinions on the party line up until well after the game's release and I've had time to play it and watch different combinations on YouTube.


Do you realize how good the game actually looks in 4k and modded to the teeth?

Every game tends to look gorgeous at 4K and modded to the teeth.
 

ControlD

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So looking over some sources, there's probably going to be very little to no modding at all? That was my major gripe with DA2, when compared to Origin.

I'm playing DA2 right now for the first time. It seems like there is a good amount of mod support for it. Maybe the mod community just hadn't really gotten into it when you were playing?

Honestly I think DA2 is pretty fun, and I went into it expecting terrible things. The combat is certainly much quicker but the same "pause / give orders / unpause" style of combat is there from the original. I now have a little more hope for DA3 but I'll still wait for some trustworthy reviews before purchasing.
 

exar333

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Do you realize how good the game actually looks in 4k and modded to the teeth?

Lipstick on a pig comes to mind. :whiste:

DA2 was horrible. Definitely hoping DA3 is MUCH improved. So far, definitely looking better from what I can see.
 

JeffNY35

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When does this come out?

Really looking forward to opinions on this one. Pretty sure I am not going to get suckered into paying full price. Thinking this is a sale purchase.
 

Mem

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When does this come out?

Really looking forward to opinions on this one. Pretty sure I am not going to get suckered into paying full price. Thinking this is a sale purchase.



18th Nov in US,21st in UK.
 

Dumac

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I wouldn't say disappointing, no (not for me anyway). They could be interesting. If there's one thing BioWare has pretty much always done right (with only a few exceptions) was creating well fleshed-out, memorable characters (not talking about main story arcs, just characters on individual basis, with their respective back-stories).

This is purely at face value, but most of the team mates look disinteresting and some just seem annoying. Maybe it will be different, but usually when I look at the lineup I can see characters I want to party with and explore more but this time I just don't.

that would probably be because the character(s) him/herself would have been well-written and you'd simply happen to not be on the same wavelength for 'x', 'y' and 'z' reasons (such as morality, or their personal past actions that you wouldn't like, etc). For example, Anders in ME2, I disliked him but not because "he's poorly-written", but on the contrary, even though I preferred Anders in DAO Awakening, he was still well-written in DA2 but in such a way as to make him an annoyance for my Hawke (I role-played my main DA2 play-though and my specific Hawke just couldn't stand him, but not because me, the player, couldn't).

I disagree. I thought Anders was extremely poorly written, especially when you factor in the 'romance' dialogue and hsi break in character from DA:O. I didn't find anything he said or did to be believable.

I do know what you mean though. My example would be the Twi'lek girl from KotOR. I thought she was written well and a believable character, but man did everything about her get on my nerves.

I'm playing DA2 right now for the first time. It seems like there is a good amount of mod support for it. Maybe the mod community just hadn't really gotten into it when you were playing?

Honestly I think DA2 is pretty fun, and I went into it expecting terrible things. The combat is certainly much quicker but the same "pause / give orders / unpause" style of combat is there from the original. I now have a little more hope for DA3 but I'll still wait for some trustworthy reviews before purchasing.

I'm interested to see if your opinions is the same as you keep playing. I thought it was "decent" at first (7.5/10) but as I played more it quickly lowered my opinion to 5/10. I found that became more apparently flawed as you played it.
 

JumBie

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I watched a commentary+gameplay video on youtube. The minute the guy got on his horse I noticed all of the party members disappeared as if they just magically stack with you on your horse until you dismount. I found that to break immersion quite a bit.
 

Zenoth

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I watched a commentary+gameplay video on youtube. The minute the guy got on his horse I noticed all of the party members disappeared as if they just magically stack with you on your horse until you dismount. I found that to break immersion quite a bit.

Understandable to a degree, but also understandable that the developers probably knew all the potential A.I. pathing-related issues that would have occurred had each party members also rode a horse to follow you. Not to mention terrain elevation, obstacles, etc. I can already picture party members still on their "stuck" horse between two rocks or unable to find an alternate route to avoid terrain obstacles, only for you to dismount and realize at the worst moment possible that one or two of them are still 200 meters behind you. Another thing they might have done would have been to indeed allow party members to also ride a mount to follow you when you do, but if you're getting too far ahead of them, or if they're stuck, then they would automatically "teleport" at your side magically, which itself also sort of breaks the immersion to a certain extent (which would have been similar to Skyrim with some mods, especially for followers on foot).

I think that "removing" party members on-screen while you ride a mount was perhaps the "cheapest" solution, but efficient and completely avoids any issues directly related to them doing the same (or at least trying to, there's limits to 'intelligent' A.I., and maybe the engine has limits that I know nothing about that forced them to take that decision). At this point you'll have to rely on suspension of disbelief. If you have good imagination you can just visualize them in your mind following you on their respective horses as you explore Thedas on your own mount. That way you don't have to stop and look behind you every minute to make sure they're not stuck down that hill you saw five corners, 55 trees, 17 road rocks and 3 terrain elevations ago.
 
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Bateluer

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I think the embargo is over, AngryJoe uploaded a nearly 40 minute gameplay video of it with his initial impressions and experiences.

Gotta give some credit, lifting an NDA a week before the game officially launches at least says EA Bioware has some confidence in the product.
 

Zenoth

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I think the embargo is over, AngryJoe uploaded a nearly 40 minute gameplay video of it with his initial impressions and experiences.

Gotta give some credit, lifting an NDA a week before the game officially launches at least says EA Bioware has some confidence in the product.

I've self-imposed a total Inquisition media blackout since the past three weeks or so by now. I'm not clicking on anything related to Inquisition videos, interviews, tweets, 'first impressions', previews of any sorts and certainly staying away from the Inquisition forums over at the BioWare Social Network. The last thing I saw was a single picture of the game's main menu (repeat, a picture, not even a video of it).

I have the feeling that if I spoil anything about Inquisition that I'll regret it for a long time. I haven't experienced a good story-driven game in quite some time (at least not an RPG) and I just don't want to screw up that one (potentially, anyway). So... eight days to go... just eight days, and I need to stop thinking about it because the closer I get the tougher it is. The 17th will be the longest day of the month.
 

ControlD

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I think the embargo is over, AngryJoe uploaded a nearly 40 minute gameplay video of it with his initial impressions and experiences.

Gotta give some credit, lifting an NDA a week before the game officially launches at least says EA Bioware has some confidence in the product.

I have to admit, that video looks pretty good. The game play sort of looks like a cross between Skyrim and Dragon Age (1 or 2) to me.
 

Bateluer

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I've self-imposed a total Inquisition media blackout since the past three weeks or so by now. I'm not clicking on anything related to Inquisition videos, interviews, tweets, 'first impressions', previews of any sorts and certainly staying away from the Inquisition forums over at the BioWare Social Network. The last thing I saw was a single picture of the game's main menu (repeat, a picture, not even a video of it).

I have the feeling that if I spoil anything about Inquisition that I'll regret it for a long time. I haven't experienced a good story-driven game in quite some time (at least not an RPG) and I just don't want to screw up that one (potentially, anyway). So... eight days to go... just eight days, and I need to stop thinking about it because the closer I get the tougher it is. The 17th will be the longest day of the month.

Don't ever go to the Bioware Social Forums. That place is a foul pit.
 

alcoholbob

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Do you realize how good the game actually looks in 4k and modded to the teeth?

Without a tactical view there's no way DA2 could approach DAI in graphics after modding, since you can only zoom out so much from the old ugly graphics
 

Bateluer

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I pulled this from /r/games.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/2ly5x7/dragon_age_inquisition_review_thread/

Seems like a strong start.

Game Spot - 9/10

"Inquisition's characters and world, on the other hand, recall the grand gestures of the original Dragon Age, even though the game as a whole is so structurally different to its predecessors. It offers the thrill of discovery and the passion of camaraderie. It features a glee club called The Sing-Quisition, and a dwarf with writer's block. It establishes connections with its world in big ways and small, with the sight of a titanous temple and the smirk of an Orlesian commander in love. Dragon Age: Inquisition is a wonderful game and a lengthy pilgrimage to a magical world with vital thematic ties to one we already know."


Game Informer - 9.5/10

"After two disparate entries with different philosophies, Dragon Age’s identity crisis is over. With a mixture of open-world exploration, entertaining combat, and top-tier characters, the team at BioWare has found a winning formula that isn’t shackled to either Dragon Age: Origins or Dragon Age II. Inquisition is not defined by the traditions it returns to, but by the new directions it forges for this magnificent fantasy universe."


IGN - 8.8/10

"When I’d finally slain my first dragon in Dragon Age: Inquisition, I felt a little sad at the thought that I was probably beginning to exhaust its seemingly endless stream of content. But then I saw the quest ticker: “Dragons Slayed - 1 out of 10.” In all my hours, I had only ever seen three. It’s a surprisingly huge, dense world, and I soon realized there were still entire sandboxes I hadn’t even set foot in. Even in my hundredth hour, I’m still discovering. Despite its less than compelling plot, I still want to go back to explore and fight through every nook and cranny of Dragon Age: Inquisition, until every dragon’s skull is mounted on my wall. "


Polygon - 9.5/10

" Dragon Age: Inquisition is one of the biggest games I've ever played, and I still want more. This is the astounding scope I referred to above. It's no longer as simple as how your choices affect your small band of adventurers — though that can vary quite a lot as well. Dragon Age: Inquisition puts the fate of the world in your hands in a way that few role-playing games have done before. And even after another 80 hours devoted to it, it's a world I cannot wait to return to in whatever BioWare does next. I don't know what higher praise I could give."


Time 4.5/5

"Dragon Age: Inquisition didn’t work for me at first, but then I realized I’d been playing it too much like Dragon Age II, mashing through battles and racing between to-dos and ignoring the filler because why would Bioware know anything about riveting world design? Then I slowed down, and in slowing down discovered how wrong I’d been–how much more the design team managed to fill this iteration with. Sometimes gaming’s as much about the caught-you-off-guard zen moments as the lunatic action ones, and sometimes the workmanship’s enough."


PlayStation Lifestyle - 9/10

"Despite the small issues with the horses and the lack of items players can buy from merchants, I can still safely say that Dragon Age: Inquisition is the best console RPG I have ever played. The beautiful graphics grabbed me, the detailed characters reeled me in, and the open areas and numerous quests made me fall in love with the game. Overall, I spent around 55 hours on the game, and while I only recently finished the main story line, I still have many more side quests that I can play. If you’re an RPG fan,you owe it to yourself to play Inquisition, and somehow, I don’t think you’ll regret it."


Joystiq - 5/5

"Dragon Age: Inquisition is BioWare's reaffirmation of what it's capable of delivering. It's a gorgeous game on an epic scale. Rich in character and story, it creates a fantasy world with plausible social rules you can get lost in. It makes you feel that you aren't just exploring a new world, but helping shape it at various levels of society. Inquisition sets the bar for what a blockbuster RPG should be."


Crave Online - 8.5/10

"Dragon Age: Inquisition‘s beautiful world isn’t just a theme park looking to entertain with pre-built rides, it makes you feel like a part of the equation with major choices to be made, and often. Its combat system is a great mixture of its two predecessors, offering means to play in both action and strategy modes. Although, CPU controlled characters don’t exercise good judgement, making strategic play the better choice in most scenarios. There are also some low points in the narrative path which may hinder some from completing the lengthy journey, but it delivers interesting quests often enough to keep the ride going."


MMORPG - 8.6/10

"There is no way within the scope of this review to cover everything that Dragon Age Inquisition is in terms of story, game play, visuals, combat, companions, romances, and everything else that makes up what can only be described as Bioware’s return to glory and as the preeminent force in the RPG genre. Dragon Age Inquisition is a must play for anyone who calls themselves a fan of role playing games."


PC Gamer - 87/100

"There’s even co-op multiplayer, in the style of Mass Effect 3’s horde mode. As I write this, the servers are empty, and so I’ve been unable to test it. Whatever its quality, it doesn’t affect a singleplayer campaign that, all things considered, is a resounding success. How much you enjoy Inquisition will likely depend on what it is you enjoy about RPGs. If you want complex systems and hardcore challenge, it could potentially disappoint. I don’t. I want a rich world, interesting characters, and a dramatic and memorable plot. Judged on those criteria, Dragon Age: Inquisition sits happily alongside BioWare’s best."


Eurogamer - 8/10

"Its not-so-fatal flaw is that in offering so much, both in terms of player choice and in going for peak-BioWare in every aspect of the game, those individual moments, characters, activities and plot beats often don't benefit from the focus and importance needed to unlock their full potential. Still, that's hardly a crime, and one more than made up for by the many high points that I can't name directly for fear of spoilers, the hours and hours both adventuring in Thedas as it was always meant to be, and sitting at the highest levels of its politics. The true power of the Inquisition may be illusory, but that doesn't stop it being satisfying to wield while it lasts."
 

Carfax83

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Looks good, but I'm going to be tied up with AC Unity for sometime before I get to Dragon Age Inquisition..
 

Carfax83

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Sadly, there's still people giving Ubi Soft money.

The game looks and runs great, so I don't see what the issue is.. Anyway, time for some DAI related stuff.. PCGH did some early benchmarks of Dragon Age Inquisition:

Early benchmarks

Game performs pretty well for early release drivers I'd say. Kind of disappointed that the tessellation factor is so weak though..
 

Bateluer

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Early benchmarks

Game performs pretty well for early release drivers I'd say. Kind of disappointed that the tessellation factor is so weak though..

Looks a fairly strong showing from 290s with Mantle. I'm am more than a little tempted to pick it up, but I'm still waiting at least a week after 18 November. Thanksgiving Weekend at the earliest, give some time for some flaws/bugs to come out.
 

Blanky

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Strong score so far on metacritic. I think I'll play it.

IGN mentions bugs. With AC games out this week and FC4 next week I think i'll leave Inquisition until Christmas; give Bioware 6 weeks to iron out some of the worst bugs. Course FC4 could be buggy, too, but DAI has the most content I am sure of all these games and probably needs more correction time.
 

nageov3t

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I keep waffling between PC or Xbox.... if I go Xbox, I can play the game on the 70" living room tv from the comfort of my leather recliner, while on PC I'll get access to whatever mods come out but be forced to play it hunched over my desk on a 24" monitor.

(alas, hooking my PC up to the tv in the living room isn't an option without annoying my SO, who'd silently bitch at me for all the wires/cables running through the living room.... maybe when we buy a house and have more space, I'll keep my gaming computer in the living room and use my home office desk as basically a docking station for my laptop)
 

Mem

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I keep waffling between PC or Xbox.... if I go Xbox, I can play the game on the 70" living room tv from the comfort of my leather recliner, while on PC I'll get access to whatever mods come out but be forced to play it hunched over my desk on a 24" monitor.

(alas, hooking my PC up to the tv in the living room isn't an option without annoying my SO, who'd silently bitch at me for all the wires/cables running through the living room.... maybe when we buy a house and have more space, I'll keep my gaming computer in the living room and use my home office desk as basically a docking station for my laptop)


I also believe console version is capped at 30fps,PC obviously depends on your hardware.
 
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