Dragon Age 3: Inquisition announced

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ControlD

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So, I decided to start another character so I could go through the tutorial section while using my Xbox controller. After having spent some time playing the game I think I have to agree that a controller is the better way to play this game right now. The tactical mode is so much better when navigating with the analogue sticks. I'm still a little clumsy using a controller, but I figure by the time I am done with this game I should be an expert!
 

zinfamous

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man....stupid thread. This game was only vaguely on my map. ....but it looks more open world than DA1, I hear that i's very Skyrimmy (which I love), and yet also more of a serious RPG (in terms of mechanics--unlike Skyrim).

I completely skipped DA2, btw. ...would that matter as far as story goes? I barely recall what happened in the first one, even tough I played through it ~twice.

Should I just say eff it and get it? I haven't picked up an EA or Bioware game since the time they abandoned Steam. So, what is the first time this type of release is expected to go on sale? I know EA usually has a history of shitty, or even non-existent sale cycles....

So, I decided to start another character so I could go through the tutorial section while using my Xbox controller. After having spent some time playing the game I think I have to agree that a controller is the better way to play this game right now. The tactical mode is so much better when navigating with the analogue sticks. I'm still a little clumsy using a controller, but I figure by the time I am done with this game I should be an expert!

Hmm, I kinda hate to hear that. I did watch Total Biscuit's video, so I feel that if I could tolerate the tactical menu stuff I'd be fine. I've got 6 buttons on the side of my mouse, so I assume I could rebind things--even the tactical camera?--to mitigate these issues?
 

ControlD

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man....stupid thread. This game was only vaguely on my map. ....but it looks more open world than DA1, I hear that i's very Skyrimmy (which I love), and yet also more of a serious RPG (in terms of mechanics--unlike Skyrim).

I completely skipped DA2, btw. ...would that matter as far as story goes? I barely recall what happened in the first one, even tough I played through it ~twice.

Should I just say eff it and get it? I haven't picked up an EA or Bioware game since the time they abandoned Steam. So, what is the first time this type of release is expected to go on sale? I know EA usually has a history of shitty, or even non-existent sale cycles....



Hmm, I kinda hate to hear that. I did watch Total Biscuit's video, so I feel that if I could tolerate the tactical menu stuff I'd be fine. I've got 6 buttons on the side of my mouse, so I assume I could rebind things--even the tactical camera?--to mitigate these issues?

Funny you should bring up the comparison to Skyrim, because I just said the same thing to myself not five minutes ago. It isn't quite as action oriented as Skyrim, but this game feels like a cross between DA:O and Skyrim to me.

I feel like the game is playable with either keyboard+mouse or a controller. I almost never use my controller for anything but platform games, but when you try DA:I for awhile with one you realize that this is where the devs put most of their effort when creating the interface. The tactical bindings aren't really a problem with WASD, it is the fact that you have to move a targeting circle to select what enemy you want to attack. This was clearly made with dual sticks in mind and is a little strange when using a keyboard. I believe Total Biscuit commented on this as well.

Also, when you are in action mode with a controller your special abilities are easily accessed with your gamepad buttons. To use them with the keyboard you have to reach up and press the 1-0 keys on the keyboard which is a little jarring when you are in the middle of a fight.
 

poohbear

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Playing it now and.. Omg, another crappy console port? What are the odds. acting is meh, story so far is meh and the controls is 2004, the graphics is 2004 and did i mention it lags? Not really during gameplay but every single cutscene lags? Same as with codaw, then it was cutscenes video/audio out of sync. PC gaming is going in the gutter.. future of PC gaming is IGP/APU, nothing is really pushing the highend descrete anymore. Witcher2 was fantastic, maybe come february there will be a reckoning with Witcher3. We need a Crysis4 ballbuster.. this is just meh. MEH !!

I stopped reading when u said graphics are from 2004. Were u around in 2004? Games most certainly didnt look like this!!! Keep on playing. When u get to hinterlands & beyond u most certainly wont say graphics are from 2004. its the most gorgeous rpg since....well since ever.
 

zinfamous

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I stopped reading when u said graphics are from 2004. Were u around in 2004? Games most certainly didnt look like this!!! Keep on playing. When u get to hinterlands & beyond u most certainly wont say graphics are from 2004. its the most gorgeous rpg since....well since ever.

Maybe his GPU is from 2004?

:hmm:
 

Dahak

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man....stupid thread. This game was only vaguely on my map. ....but it looks more open world than DA1, I hear that i's very Skyrimmy (which I love), and yet also more of a serious RPG (in terms of mechanics--unlike Skyrim).

I completely skipped DA2, btw. ...would that matter as far as story goes? I barely recall what happened in the first one, even tough I played through it ~twice.

Should I just say eff it and get it? I haven't picked up an EA or Bioware game since the time they abandoned Steam. So, what is the first time this type of release is expected to go on sale? I know EA usually has a history of shitty, or even non-existent sale cycles....


Hmm, I kinda hate to hear that. I did watch Total Biscuit's video, so I feel that if I could tolerate the tactical menu stuff I'd be fine. I've got 6 buttons on the side of my mouse, so I assume I could rebind things--even the tactical camera?--to mitigate these issues?

No you dont really need to know much about the story for DA2 other than that the start of the mage rebellion against the Templars started because of what happen there. It was the fire for the fuse that was been around since the founding of the circle's and Templars


And I would agree that is a mix between skyrim and da1, very skyrimy is a good term

controls, yes it seems that controller first seems to be true but does work with KB/M
 

Dahak

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It was posted earlier today. pretty nice.

...now I'd like to play as Tyrion and I am instantly sold.

that would be neat.. i really wish there is a way to export the characters as I have seen some other decent ones too
 

StinkyPinky

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Thank you for your opinion, very much appreciated. Have a nice day

And that "Rift", so called "Crystal", looks like something out of an commodore-64 competition.

Better?

You're making an ass of yourself. Games from 2004 look like this...



Whereas...



see the difference? Now stop embarrassing yourself.
 

zinfamous

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I wish I could see these not-2004 graphics. Game constantly locks in the various options menus in the main splash menu ><
 
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I would still take KOTOR with 2004 graphics over any RPG I have played since. But yea, obviously graphics have improved a lot. I plan to get DA:I at some point. Just wish it was on Steam so there might be some reasonably quick sales.
 

Bateluer

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Well, I've dumped about 6 hours into the game. Combat is complete and total shit. Better to turn the difficulty down to casual, get it over with quickly. Want to be a dual wielding warrior, yeah, you can do that. But you'll lose all your special abilities. Sprint seems completely broken, making the Ram meat quest in the Hinterlands impossible.


Think I'm going to go shelf this game until it gets some patches. Sadly, I think Bioware is really done.
 

Larnz

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Well, I've dumped about 6 hours into the game. Combat is complete and total shit. Better to turn the difficulty down to casual, get it over with quickly. Want to be a dual wielding warrior, yeah, you can do that. But you'll lose all your special abilities. Sprint seems completely broken, making the Ram meat quest in the Hinterlands impossible.


Think I'm going to go shelf this game until it gets some patches. Sadly, I think Bioware is really done.

Your not meant to be able to get close to them. Your meant to take control of a someone in your party a Mage/Archer to kill them at range. Its about your party not just your single char.
 

Mem

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Some patch news but no ETA,



“With the release of Dragon Age: Inquisition, we’ve been hearing a number of concerns from members of our PC community” said Mark and listed some of them.
Bioware is aware of the driver support issues, the hitching and frame rate issues in cutscenes, the keyboard and mouse controls that some PC gamers found ‘weird’, as well as the demand for general user interface optimizations for the PC.
“Player experience is a top priority for us. Our goal is to address as many of these as possible in our upcoming patches, including some in our next patch, which is underway. We’ll release further details in the coming days and will continue to monitor your concerns.”
There is no ETA yet about when the first update will be released, or what exactly it will fix.



http://www.dsogaming.com/news/biowa...on-will-address-reported-issues-from-fanbase/
 

Bateluer

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Your not meant to be able to get close to them. Your meant to take control of a someone in your party a Mage/Archer to kill them at range. Its about your party not just your single char.

And both Varric and Solas failed utterly, since the rams can sprint faster than they can fire. Even if my herald could wield a bow, he couldn't hit the ram enough times to kill it before it was well out of range.



Wasn't there supposed to be a Day 1 patch? I know CDP will make broad changes when things are wrong, they did it with both Witcher games. EA, to my knowledge, seldom makes major changes to games once released.
 

Mem

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And both Varric and Solas failed utterly, since the rams can sprint faster than they can fire. Even if my herald could wield a bow, he couldn't hit the ram enough times to kill it before it was well out of range.




Wasn't there supposed to be a Day 1 patch? I know CDP will make broad changes when things are wrong, they did it with both Witcher games. EA, to my knowledge, seldom makes major changes to games once released.


It's dated 22nd November so today's news,guess the patch is going to be bigger then what they thought so will take some time,not surprising really.
 

Dahak

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So how is the crafting side of things,good or bad?

I would say it leans more to the good side for me. The interface is a little annoying for kb/m.

You can craft weapons, and then weapon mods for example sword and hilts, staves and hafts
Same for armor, you would craft armour and then there is mods for arms and legs and the look changes based on what mod and material you use

One annoying thing is that you have to run to 4 different tables to craft it all, 1 for weapons, 1 for armour, 1 to mod the weapons, 1 to mod the armour

I can throw up some screenshots if needed. i would try to do a video but it seems shadowplay is not working for DA:I
 
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maniacalpha1-1

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Well, I've dumped about 6 hours into the game. Combat is complete and total shit. Better to turn the difficulty down to casual, get it over with quickly. Want to be a dual wielding warrior, yeah, you can do that. But you'll lose all your special abilities. Sprint seems completely broken, making the Ram meat quest in the Hinterlands impossible.


Think I'm going to go shelf this game until it gets some patches. Sadly, I think Bioware is really done.

I never cared about DA combat to begin with, just the story, but yea.

I just used Solas to freeze the rams and then the other party members can get it done though.

Also. it seems like most of the characters that were in previous games have had their art depiction utterly destroyed.
Varric, Cullen, Loghain for sure (Loghain can possibly be explained by aging). Cassandra happens to in my opinion look pretty close to DA2 but Varric no way. And Hawke, when he shows up? WTF, you can customize him to try and make him look like he did in DA2 (though I didn't put much effort into it). Leliana is close to Origins I think.

I'm liking it, but it seems to me like Bioware heard all the complaints about DA2, and basically decided that, well, they wouldn't do things like DA2, but they still weren't going to do it like DA:O.

One interesting thing though - am I looking in the wrong place, or is there truly no day one DLC on this?
 
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Dahak

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One interesting thing though - am I looking in the wrong place, or is there truly no day one DLC on this?

nope, only the pre-order stuff/deluxe, which personally is fine for me. Im not paying for Pre-order/Deluxe version only to have to pay another $5-$10 for some day one dlc
 

ControlD

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I just used Solas to freeze the rams and then the other party members can get it done though.

This. I think that's the entire point of the assignment honestly. That side quest forces you to learn how to disable / stun / incapacitate a target. Every time I saw a ram wondering around I simply stunned or froze it and had my melee characters kill it. I had more than 10 rams in the bag within a few minutes.
 

datalink7

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And both Varric and Solas failed utterly, since the rams can sprint faster than they can fire. Even if my herald could wield a bow, he couldn't hit the ram enough times to kill it before it was well out of range.

Really? My Varric was one shotting Rams, or close enough to it that one blast from the mage finished it off. Hard difficulty. The quest was easy for me.
 

bystander36

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Well, I've dumped about 6 hours into the game. Combat is complete and total shit. Better to turn the difficulty down to casual, get it over with quickly. Want to be a dual wielding warrior, yeah, you can do that. But you'll lose all your special abilities. Sprint seems completely broken, making the Ram meat quest in the Hinterlands impossible.


Think I'm going to go shelf this game until it gets some patches. Sadly, I think Bioware is really done.

You do want to use your whole party when fighting. Just targeting and pressing "y" would be all you'd have to do to kill a ram, but like others have said, use stun/freezes/knockdowns. Use your grappling hook, and knock them down after. The ram won't last long.

As far as going dual wield with your warrior...don't. Warriors are either 1h/shield or 2h users. The skills are set for that. While Origins allowed you to go dual wield, it sucked as a tank warrior, as it was the only setup that didn't have a knock down immunity. Go rogue if you want to dual wield. Personally, the 1h/shield warrior, at least up to level 10, is easily the most interesting class I've played so far.

The combat doesn't really get fun until you get a few levels and skills under your belt. You'll want to learn to use tactical mode and how to micromanage your party. As time goes in, it does get more challenging. And don't forget about the 1g respec at the blacksmith. It'll give you a chance to experiment with your skills if you've messed them up.
 
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