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zinfamous

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Can you tell me what disrupting a rift actually does? At first, I always tried to disrupt them, but I've not noticed anything different from disrupting them, and simply killing what comes out. The only exception was the first boss fight at the end of the initial mission, which disrupting the rift caused him to drop his guard.

If you are successful, it will damage the currently spawned demons, killing them if they are low enough on health. You can only disrupt it once per spawn, and can only really kill the rift after the final wave is gone.

I don't even try to disrupt anymore, because it's so easy to be interrupted and you have to kill the waves anyway.

One of the info cards mentioned that the dispel spell can be used to banish demons before they spawn--so that moment when their green haze is appearing and before they pop. I need to try this and see if it actually works. Templar has their own skill that can do this, as well.
 

bystander36

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I've tried fighting a couple of dragons (a few times each) and I have been completely destroyed every time! I'm only level 14 or so however and I imagine that is borderline at best. This game is like crack though. I haven't enjoyed a game this much since Borderlands 2. It sort of makes me wish there was a new (single player) Elder Scrolls game on the horizon.

Once you get comfortable with the crafting system all of that constant looting of natural resources really starts to become fun and I now find myself going the long way to quest markers hoping to find something fade touched.

I hard, level 14 was the level I killed my first dragon. It was in the Hinterlands. I think your best bet for dragon killing is to have mostly ranged attackers. You should also go into tactical mode when you first see it, and see what damage type it is vulnerable to, and resistant, then leave. Come back after adjusting your party to take advantage of it.

Melee has it tough against dragons, as they never stop moving, and constantly kicking you down. A melee might find himself spending more time trying to hit the dragon, than actually hitting it. Range damage is a lot easier for dealing with a dragon.
 

bystander36

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If you are successful, it will damage the currently spawned demons, killing them if they are low enough on health. You can only disrupt it once per spawn, and can only really kill the rift after the final wave is gone.

I don't even try to disrupt anymore, because it's so easy to be interrupted and you have to kill the waves anyway.

One of the info cards mentioned that the dispel spell can be used to banish demons before they spawn--so that moment when their green haze is appearing and before they pop. I need to try this and see if it actually works. Templar has their own skill that can do this, as well.

I've tried physically attacking those new spawn points, with no success, I'll try dispel next time.
 

ControlD

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I hard, level 14 was the level I killed my first dragon. It was in the Hinterlands. I think your best bet for dragon killing is to have mostly ranged attackers. You should also go into tactical mode when you first see it, and see what damage type it is vulnerable to, and resistant, then leave. Come back after adjusting your party to take advantage of it.

Melee has it tough against dragons, as they never stop moving, and constantly kicking you down. A melee might find himself spending more time trying to hit the dragon, than actually hitting it. Range damage is a lot easier for dealing with a dragon.

Thanks for the tips. I can see me moving into the Knight Enchanter tree might not have been the greatest move when it comes to dragon hunting!

On a completely unrelated note, I did find one very major downside to using a controller to play this game. You can only map 8 abilities when using a controller. If you are playing a mage and have more than 8 spells you simply will not have access to them all during a fight. I actually took this into account after the specializations were unlocked and reassigned my ability points to get rid of some spells I rarely used. Still, it is almost enough to make me switch back to kb+m because at level 14 I already have my specialization maxed out and will need to put points into other spells.
 

zinfamous

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On a completely unrelated note, I did find one very major downside to using a controller to play this game. You can only map 8 abilities when using a controller. If you are playing a mage and have more than 8 spells you simply will not have access to them all during a fight. I actually took this into account after the specializations were unlocked and reassigned my ability points to get rid of some spells I rarely used. Still, it is almost enough to make me switch back to kb+m because at level 14 I already have my specialization maxed out and will need to put points into other spells.

yeah, that is annoying. But I reminded myself that I prefer limited ability slots for more directed build focus--and just stick with it. It helps me to toss out the chaff and try a few new ideas with builds as I unlock the specialization stuff.
 

bystander36

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Thanks for the tips. I can see me moving into the Knight Enchanter tree might not have been the greatest move when it comes to dragon hunting!

On a completely unrelated note, I did find one very major downside to using a controller to play this game. You can only map 8 abilities when using a controller. If you are playing a mage and have more than 8 spells you simply will not have access to them all during a fight. I actually took this into account after the specializations were unlocked and reassigned my ability points to get rid of some spells I rarely used. Still, it is almost enough to make me switch back to kb+m because at level 14 I already have my specialization maxed out and will need to put points into other spells.

Actually, my Knight Enchanter does very well against them. I focus on barrier and Knight Enchanter abilities. While he does struggle to get hits in, when he does, he does very well. His defensive abilities make up for his difficulties hitting the dragons. As I leveled up, I added in Lightning abilities, because of some passive damage that happens when you are in melee range.
 

ControlD

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yeah, that is annoying. But I reminded myself that I prefer limited ability slots for more directed build focus--and just stick with it. It helps me to toss out the chaff and try a few new ideas with builds as I unlock the specialization stuff.

Good point. For now I am just planning on getting as many passive abilities as I can and then running down the trees to unlock the stat point upgrades. Even if I don't use the spell, getting the +3 points makes getting the skill worthwhile.
 

bystander36

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@DaveStall, oh yeah, I forgot to mention, you are limited to 8 abilities with KB&M too. I assume the game was simply designed for consoles, and ported it to PC, like DA2 was.
 

ControlD

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@DaveStall, oh yeah, I forgot to mention, you are limited to 8 abilities with KB&M too. I assume the game was simply designed for consoles, and ported it to PC, like DA2 was.

D'oh. Ok, thanks for that. I'll stick with the controller then!
 

Dahak

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Basic strategy I use for dragons is as follows,

-set limit on potions use
-manually use potions if needed
-when dragon is flying around use regen potion to save healing potion.
-controlling warrior(character,cassandra,blackwall), when attacking if see limb ready to strike, put up shield wall, this will give you guard.
-when it moves way from you and goes to shoot fire/ice/lighting ball, put up shield wall and will deflect it - may need passive to do this I would have to double check
-if it anchors down to flap wings, get close to it if you are outside of the circle it will damage you
-some will armor up, use shield bash to bring that down,
 

PenguinPower

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Basic strategy I use for dragons is as follows,

-set limit on potions use
-manually use potions if needed
-when dragon is flying around use regen potion to save healing potion.
-controlling warrior(character,cassandra,blackwall), when attacking if see limb ready to strike, put up shield wall, this will give you guard.
-when it moves way from you and goes to shoot fire/ice/lighting ball, put up shield wall and will deflect it - may need passive to do this I would have to double check
-if it anchors down to flap wings, get close to it if you are outside of the circle it will damage you
-some will armor up, use shield bash to bring that down,

Basic/Best strategy for a KE:

- Cast barrier on self; screw team mates
- Leg down for an extended duration?
- (Y) Cast fade cloak and walk into dragon​
- (N) Spam spirit blade​
 
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escrow4

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Thanks for the tips. I can see me moving into the Knight Enchanter tree might not have been the greatest move when it comes to dragon hunting!

On a completely unrelated note, I did find one very major downside to using a controller to play this game. You can only map 8 abilities when using a controller. If you are playing a mage and have more than 8 spells you simply will not have access to them all during a fight. I actually took this into account after the specializations were unlocked and reassigned my ability points to get rid of some spells I rarely used. Still, it is almost enough to make me switch back to kb+m because at level 14 I already have my specialization maxed out and will need to put points into other spells.

I play as a champion, and you eventually get invulnerability for a few seconds, plus if you max out Vanguard dragons just bounce off you. Giants can still knock me down but still. Plus with Champion you can't die (the first time at least) there is an option to leave you with 5% health. Its an excellent class I'd say.

I strongly recommend crafting weapons and armor - I crafted a two handed sword for Bull that does 250 damage as well as 253 armor for him and the Inquisitor. Spending an inquisition perk on armor schematics is well worth it if you don't want to wait for something to drop in the game world. Also make sure you stick runs on weapons if you can. They stack well with all the other items, and I strongly recommend Dawnstone or Everite for heavy duty armor. Only thing higher is dragon bone.
 

Midwayman

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Essentially, I suck at gearing in this game. Should I be crafting a lot using the dropped recipies? I try to stay away from Haven for the most part unless my inventory is full, or I want to try to push dialogue with my recruits. And on the romance part, I wonder if things are buggy - my party members keep treating my character as a woman even though its a guy, so some romance options aren't being triggered, I think.

I've found that I can generally craft better gear than I find. Either the gear is too high a level for me, or I'm stuck using a piece way under level. Crafted gear also allows you to pick the stats you want on it. I find in generally its better than a blue item of the same level (barely) but worse than a purple.
 

QuantumPion

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Apparently a very effective setup for KE is combining fire rune + the fire passive which consumes barrier for additional damage and the KE ability which generates barrier on damage.
 

bystander36

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Apparently a very effective setup for KE is combining fire rune + the fire passive which consumes barrier for additional damage and the KE ability which generates barrier on damage.

So far, I've added Lightning for the free lightning strikes when in melee range, but I've considered trying out a range build, and going fire. It does appear KE's can be played two ways, but I have not tried it yet.
 
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So what is the deal with the Wardens of the Coast quest? Did they make it intentionally as infuriating as possible, or am I just going blind? I have been wandering around for hours trying to find those signs, and have not found a bleeping one of them. And the quest markers on the compass seem to bear no relation to the markers on the actual map. And I can be standing directly on top of the where the marker is on the map and I cant find a damn thing. Yes, I am using the search button. Is there a decent reward for this, or am I just wasting my time?
 

Dahak

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Once you get closer the compass outer ring should pulse and then you can use your search to find the exact location and it should point towards where it is

Or if you want spoiler/quick find, ign has a video of it
 

ramj70

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So what is the deal with the Wardens of the Coast quest? Did they make it intentionally as infuriating as possible, or am I just going blind? I have been wandering around for hours trying to find those signs, and have not found a bleeping one of them. And the quest markers on the compass seem to bear no relation to the markers on the actual map. And I can be standing directly on top of the where the marker is on the map and I cant find a damn thing. Yes, I am using the search button. Is there a decent reward for this, or am I just wasting my time?

In each area you need to find an abandoned camp site and look for some papers on the ground and then do the search and you should then see it. I don't remember but I don't believe there is any big reward for doing it.
 

bystander36

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So what is the deal with the Wardens of the Coast quest? Did they make it intentionally as infuriating as possible, or am I just going blind? I have been wandering around for hours trying to find those signs, and have not found a bleeping one of them. And the quest markers on the compass seem to bear no relation to the markers on the actual map. And I can be standing directly on top of the where the marker is on the map and I cant find a damn thing. Yes, I am using the search button. Is there a decent reward for this, or am I just wasting my time?

In the map, you should set the quest as active, at which point it shows a purple highlighted area that you need to search. When you get near one of the hidden markers, your compass will flash, at which point, use search, which shows a pulse of what direction the hidden item is. Just keep pressing search and go the direction that pulse directs you.
 

Bateluer

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In the map, you should set the quest as active, at which point it shows a purple highlighted area that you need to search. When you get near one of the hidden markers, your compass will flash, at which point, use search, which shows a pulse of what direction the hidden item is. Just keep pressing search and go the direction that pulse directs you.

Some of them were very, very hard to find. :/
 
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Some of them were very, very hard to find. :/

No kidding. I finished the quest, got one power point. Problem with this quest is that the search does not really work like finding other items. The search button does not work at any kind of distance and the items do not show up with a halo around them like other loot or plants, etc when you get close to them. You have to stand right on top of the paper, and then hit the search button, then you can pick it up.

Edit: at least this is what happened on my comp. The quest may have been bugged, I dont know. The quest was hardly worth the time, but I got so aggravated that I determined to finish no matter how long it took. I finally just gave in and watched the video.
 
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Bateluer

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No kidding. I finished the quest, got one power point. Problem with this quest is that the search does not really work like finding other items. The search button does not work at any kind of distance and the items do not show up with a halo around them like other loot or plants, etc when you get close to them. You have to stand right on top of the paper, and then hit the search button, then you can pick it up.

Edit: at least this is what happened on my comp. The quest may have been bugged, I dont know. The quest was hardly worth the time, but I got so aggravated that I determined to finish no matter how long it took. I finally just gave in and watched the video.

There was at least one in the Sword Coast area that probably took me a good 20 minutes of running in a circle around the map marker hitting search over and over before it picked up a ping. :/

There's one behind a locked door in the Mire too . . . but I don't have the perk for deft hands to let my rogues pick it yet. Wonder if I can bash the door open?
 

exar333

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There was at least one in the Sword Coast area that probably took me a good 20 minutes of running in a circle around the map marker hitting search over and over before it picked up a ping. :/

There's one behind a locked door in the Mire too . . . but I don't have the perk for deft hands to let my rogues pick it yet. Wonder if I can bash the door open?

I don't think so.

It will show if a warrior can break down a barrier and it appears the 'lock icons' showing those doors must be accessed with the deft hands perk.
 

escrow4

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Deft hand perks is useful as you can get some decent loot to sell.

Honestly the biggest irritation now isn't the consolized controls but the parcelled areas - its 2015 why do we not have an open world title like Skyrim with cities that have more than 5 NPCs and 2 streets? Why are there some areas that have sub-areas that STILL need to be loaded? Granted its 5-10 seconds or so on this 500GB EVO but its ridiculous. "Next-gen" (HA!) consoles have 6GB of RAM to shove around (shared but still) - is it being put to good use? Why isn't everything loaded up?

Why do we not have a Dragon Age where you can walk from Skyhold to the heart of Orlais which is a bustling city (sort of like Unity without the glitches, not a square with 2 levels and a smattering of NPCs) with no loading screens? Then walk to Denerim? And its approximate real time, so end to end of the map, say 2-3hrs? With the interim actually filled with something that isn't a fetch quest?

You'd think in 2015 we'd have more world immersion.
 

Xellos2099

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I need an opinion. I received my free dragon age from the ms store purchase and i look it up it is worth 40 to best buy. I am debating should i trade it in and buy the pc version for 45 at amazon
 
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