Dress Code

[Rumpltzer]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: txrandom
I'm doing an on site interview for a company in the coming days. The dress is business professional. I guess this is standard, but usually IT departments are more casual. The dress code also specifies for guys: no earrings, no facial hair, and hair above collar. Even my high school allowed hair above the collar!

It's not a big deal since I follow all those anyways, but it seems really strict for the "real world."

Shit...try working for Disney. No piercings, no unnatural hair colors (highlights), no creative stylings, no visible tattoos, no facial hair (unless you're an actor and it's part of your character)...Walt Disney style mustaches are allowed, etc...

...such rules apply for their business/management, artists, IT, maintenance, etc., not just park workers. I mean, I understand the rules applying to people who have face time with the guests, but damn why the hell can't a night shift security guard have a beard?*

*Note: During my time there I noticed that enforcement of the policy isn't always Nurse-Ratched-strict depending on department/position.

Disney also specified no more than one ring per hand, no more than one bracelet or watch per arm, you have to wear either socks or stockings, and you have to wear underwear.

I was the one who enforced these rules.

Best job evar!!!

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Rumpltzer

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: txrandom
I'm doing an on site interview for a company in the coming days. The dress is business professional. I guess this is standard, but usually IT departments are more casual. The dress code also specifies for guys: no earrings, no facial hair, and hair above collar. Even my high school allowed hair above the collar!

It's not a big deal since I follow all those anyways, but it seems really strict for the "real world."

Shit...try working for Disney. No piercings, no unnatural hair colors (highlights), no creative stylings, no visible tattoos, no facial hair (unless you're an actor and it's part of your character)...Walt Disney style mustaches are allowed, etc...

...such rules apply for their business/management, artists, IT, maintenance, etc., not just park workers. I mean, I understand the rules applying to people who have face time with the guests, but damn why the hell can't a night shift security guard have a beard?*

*Note: During my time there I noticed that enforcement of the policy isn't always Nurse-Ratched-strict depending on department/position.

Disney also specified no more than one ring per hand, no more than one bracelet or watch per arm, you have to wear either socks or stockings, and you have to wear underwear.

I was the one who enforced these rules.

Best job evar!!!

LOL..I couldn't remember all the nitpicky rules. I will admit, my time as an intern in Epcot was incredibly fun. Some of the best times of my life. But then, I didn't have some shitty job on the front lines.

 

[AreaCode7O7]

Originally posted by: txrandom

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: txrandom

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I'd like to know the name of the company that is stupid enough to restrict facial hair and hair length.

I don't want to say anything negative about the company because, besides that, they seem like a great company to work for.

Well, their HR department needs a few lessons in policy setting and religious discrimination suits.

I was actually thinking that too and why I originally made this topic.

As long as it's universally applied and the candidates know beforehand, they can generally get away with restrictions like this. It kind of depends on how much of a fuss a candidate wants to make, but largely they'd be fine. Oh, also depends on whether they're willing to make exceptions for religious cases where there's substantial documentation on the dress violation as a religious standard.

<--- used to be in HR

 

[BrownTown]

Well if you are dealing with customers face to face its a good idea to look somewhat professional, but if your sitting in a cubicle all day and still have to wear a bunch of BS then that's just silly.

 

[Rumpltzer]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: Rumpltzer

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: txrandom
I'm doing an on site interview for a company in the coming days. The dress is business professional. I guess this is standard, but usually IT departments are more casual. The dress code also specifies for guys: no earrings, no facial hair, and hair above collar. Even my high school allowed hair above the collar!

It's not a big deal since I follow all those anyways, but it seems really strict for the "real world."

Shit...try working for Disney. No piercings, no unnatural hair colors (highlights), no creative stylings, no visible tattoos, no facial hair (unless you're an actor and it's part of your character)...Walt Disney style mustaches are allowed, etc...

...such rules apply for their business/management, artists, IT, maintenance, etc., not just park workers. I mean, I understand the rules applying to people who have face time with the guests, but damn why the hell can't a night shift security guard have a beard?*

*Note: During my time there I noticed that enforcement of the policy isn't always Nurse-Ratched-strict depending on department/position.

Disney also specified no more than one ring per hand, no more than one bracelet or watch per arm, you have to wear either socks or stockings, and you have to wear underwear.

I was the one who enforced these rules.

Best job evar!!!

LOL..I couldn't remember all the nitpicky rules. I will admit, my time as an intern in Epcot was incredibly fun. Some of the best times of my life. But then, I didn't have some shitty job on the front lines.

Dude, I was in Orlando doing a summer internship with Lucent and I worked the doors at Mannequins Dance Palace on Pleasure Island at night.

No one had a better summer than me. No one.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Rumpltzer

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: Rumpltzer

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: txrandom
I'm doing an on site interview for a company in the coming days. The dress is business professional. I guess this is standard, but usually IT departments are more casual. The dress code also specifies for guys: no earrings, no facial hair, and hair above collar. Even my high school allowed hair above the collar!

It's not a big deal since I follow all those anyways, but it seems really strict for the "real world."

Shit...try working for Disney. No piercings, no unnatural hair colors (highlights), no creative stylings, no visible tattoos, no facial hair (unless you're an actor and it's part of your character)...Walt Disney style mustaches are allowed, etc...

...such rules apply for their business/management, artists, IT, maintenance, etc., not just park workers. I mean, I understand the rules applying to people who have face time with the guests, but damn why the hell can't a night shift security guard have a beard?*

*Note: During my time there I noticed that enforcement of the policy isn't always Nurse-Ratched-strict depending on department/position.

Disney also specified no more than one ring per hand, no more than one bracelet or watch per arm, you have to wear either socks or stockings, and you have to wear underwear.

I was the one who enforced these rules.

Best job evar!!!

LOL..I couldn't remember all the nitpicky rules. I will admit, my time as an intern in Epcot was incredibly fun. Some of the best times of my life. But then, I didn't have some shitty job on the front lines.

Dude, I was in Orlando doing a summer internship with Lucent and I worked the doors at Mannequins Dance Palace on Pleasure Island at night.

No one had a better summer than me. No one.

I worked as an aquarium intern for what was then The Living Seas. I can't count how many times chicks would press their bare boobs up against the glass when I was sitting there, feeding the eagle rays.

But yeah, Pleasure Island was fun. I remember Mannequins...or at least getting drunk and spinning around on the spinning dance floor.

 

[Tsaico]

My current company requires all of the management level people to wear shirt and tie. So as the manager of my department, I am required to wear the shirt and tie getup. It was a first for me.

My last job as a contractor, not once did anyone bat an eye when I reported to work in shorts/jeans and a polo. They did require them to be either button up shirts or polos with no logo or picture (unless it was ours) larger then a half dollar. I think it was from when some guy wore a t-shirt with an offensive image on it before my time there.-

I think it is rediculous, since there are times that i need to clean out network closets and blow out the fans for dust and misc. Crawl in crawl spaces to pull new cable, or even lugging around old equipement that is being retired. Not everything I do is at the desk or on the phone. But alas, my boss doesn't see it that way. At least my subordinates can wear a little more casual, just no jeans or holes and a nice clean shirt.

As for hair, the only thing that is enforced is a "no extreme hairstyle or color" is allowed. So far, that aspect seems pretty lax, since some people have mustaches, others have beards or goatees, etc. I think only once did somone get sent home because she had bright red highlights in her hair. Since the rest of it was black, it didn't really stand out that much, but I guess it was too "Extereme".

 

[joesmoke]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

I worked as an aquarium intern for what was then The Living Seas. I can't count how many times chicks would press their bare boobs up against the glass when I was sitting there, feeding the eagle rays.

But yeah, Pleasure Island was fun. I remember Mannequins...or at least getting drunk and spinning around on the spinning dance floor.

orly?

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: ChaoZ
If companies had to reimburse us for what we have to wear, maybe they would stop bitching so much.

It would be awesome if this were a written law. The beauty is that it wouldn't drive business away with added costs; they would just scrap the dress code.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: txrandom

Originally posted by: ElFenix
what's this, singapore 1975?

Wat?

back in the day men couldn't enter singapore with hair longer than a certain length, etc., blah. there was a guy with clippers waiting in the arrival hall at the airport and would give you a quick buzz cut if your hair was too long.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: ShawnD1

Originally posted by: ChaoZ
If companies had to reimburse us for what we have to wear, maybe they would stop bitching so much.

It would be awesome if this were a written law. The beauty is that it wouldn't drive business away with added costs; they would just scrap the dress code.

It would be really, really stupid if that was a law. Seriously. Really stupid.

 

[LS21]

Originally posted by: txrandom
no earrings, no facial hair, and hair above collar.

gay, gay-bear, and total effeminate-gay

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: AreaCode707

Originally posted by: txrandom

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend

Originally posted by: txrandom

Originally posted by: SacrosanctFiend
I'd like to know the name of the company that is stupid enough to restrict facial hair and hair length.

I don't want to say anything negative about the company because, besides that, they seem like a great company to work for.

Well, their HR department needs a few lessons in policy setting and religious discrimination suits.

I was actually thinking that too and why I originally made this topic.

As long as it's universally applied and the candidates know beforehand, they can generally get away with restrictions like this. It kind of depends on how much of a fuss a candidate wants to make, but largely they'd be fine. Oh, also depends on whether they're willing to make exceptions for religious cases where there's substantial documentation on the dress violation as a religious standard.

<--- used to be in HR

Actually, the religious belief does not have to have 'substantial documentation.' It only has to be a 'sincere belief.' Not even inconsistent practice of the 'sincere belief' is adequate defense under the EEOC regs.

For an employer to escape spending, at minimum, tens of thousands of dollars, they better be able to prove a genuine undue hardship (not related to customer preference) or a genuine safety concern.

 

[rivan]

I wear shorts (jeans when it's under ~65) and t-shirts.


...and I'm one of the better-dressed people there.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: AreaCode707
As long as it's universally applied and the candidates know beforehand, they can generally get away with restrictions like this. It kind of depends on how much of a fuss a candidate wants to make, but largely they'd be fine. Oh, also depends on whether they're willing to make exceptions for religious cases where there's substantial documentation on the dress violation as a religious standard.

Well, it better apply to both fucking sexes.

 

[sourceninja]

This has always bothered me. I do my BEST work laying down on the couch with the tv on in comfortable clothes. Yet I have to dress up to sit in my office alone, in a shitty chair, where NO ONE ever visits me. I would have no problem dressing up for a meeting with clients or even the vp's. But to sit in an office by myself and be expected to code is just silly.

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: ShawnD1

Originally posted by: ChaoZ
If companies had to reimburse us for what we have to wear, maybe they would stop bitching so much.

It would be awesome if this were a written law. The beauty is that it wouldn't drive business away with added costs; they would just scrap the dress code.

It would be really, really stupid if that was a law. Seriously. Really stupid.

We already have similar laws. You don't bring your own protective gear from home, you don't supply your own tools (unless you're a contractor), you don't bring pens and paper from home, etc. If they want you to wear a $300 suit to work, maybe they should be the ones paying for it.

 

[sourceninja]

I worked for a job that gave a new hire clothing allowance once. Only to buy a colored shirt and a pair of black pants...but still.

 

[TroyEade]

Originally posted by: Rumpltzer
Disney also specified no more than one ring per hand, no more than one bracelet or watch per arm, you have to wear either socks or stockings, and you have to wear underwear.

I was the one who enforced these rules.

Best job evar!!!

and how did you check that they wore underwear? lol

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: ShawnD1

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: ShawnD1

Originally posted by: ChaoZ
If companies had to reimburse us for what we have to wear, maybe they would stop bitching so much.

It would be awesome if this were a written law. The beauty is that it wouldn't drive business away with added costs; they would just scrap the dress code.

It would be really, really stupid if that was a law. Seriously. Really stupid.

We already have similar laws. You don't bring your own protective gear from home, you don't supply your own tools (unless you're a contractor), you don't bring pens and paper from home, etc. If they want you to wear a $300 suit to work, maybe they should be the ones paying for it.

hm i wonder if it can somehow be listed as a tax write off