DSI Crossfire!?

[KeepItRed]

Omg! This sounds badass, I hope TheInq is correct...

DFI Crossfire

EDIT: There we are, sorry about that. Heheh

 

[MegaWorks]

WTF!!! And your link is dead!

 

[Creig]

The company demonstated it back at Computex but it's getting ready to start selling it. The boards should be ready in next two weeks.

The board is called the LAN Party UT RDX200 CF-DR and it's based on the RDX 200 Northbridge and SB450 Southbridge.

A) What a mouthful of a name.

B) I guess we'll find out if ATI was able to iron out the bugs from its SB or if ULI based boards will be preferable.

C) Maybe now people will stop calling it "vaporware". :roll:

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: KeepItRed
Omg! This sounds badass, I hope TheInq is correct...

DSI Crossfire

EDIT: There we are, sorry about that. Heheh

Errr, what exactly from that article sounds "badass" to you KeepItRed?

That ATI might have ironed out their Southbridge so it actually works?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Creig
C) Maybe now people will stop calling it "vaporware". :roll:

Until you can buy it, that's what it is? 7800Ultra,7800GT, R520, Crossfire- all vaporware.

What do you call products that are supposedly going to be available in the future Creig?

"Pre-reality"? LOL

 

[Ackmed]

It did work before, it just wasnt as stable as they would have liked it.

Too late for me to try this... just got the DFI NF4-D a few weeks ago. Which is a better board than my A8N-SLI was for overclocking.

 

[imported_humey]

The new Asus premium is said to o/c just aswell and some sites favour it, Asus finally added more volts tweaks they normall dont put in bios or even hardware on the mobo to change these volts after you hack bios to tweak, i had Vcore and VDD mod my NF2 lol.

You can now set the chipset volts on the premium and the chipset runs cool thanks to the heatpipe that also cools the main voltage mosfets, the DFI runs a real hot chipset as my buddies mostly run them, fan is loud to and if you fir the blue passive zalman your gonna have fitting issues with 2x gpus.
I think thats a problem for even 1x gpu as you have to use the primary slot for 1x gpu.

Look at nice mod pic in link lol, he is braver than me bending the alu.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62242

 

[Ackmed]

I need 3.5v for my ram, and I dont want to void the mobo warranty to get it. DFI is the only board out there that can do that. The A8N wasnt a bad board at all, I liked it pretty well. I would have kept it, if it could give me the volts I needed, without modding it, but it only went up to 3.0v. But yes the chipset fan is loud, much too loud if you dont control it. You can control it however, I keep itabout 5500 rpm, down from the 7500 or so that it runs if you dont control it. At that speed, its barely audible.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
It did work before, it just wasnt as stable as they would have liked it.

Too late for me to try this... just got the DFI NF4-D a few weeks ago. Which is a better board than my A8N-SLI was for overclocking.

No need to debate you here. You did it yourself.

Anyway, less performance (and I'm just assuming the ULi SB has less performance than the ATI SB cause everyone else assumes this) is always more desireable than any instability. "If" I were a candidate for an Xpress 200 mobo, I would more than prefer the ULi southbridge over ATI's.

 

[imported_humey]

Hmm in this day and age your better on low volt low latency ram like Corsair etc with samdung tccd 1.2 not winbond type ram that needs 3+ volts

The NF4 is better on the tccd anyhow, i think the premium has around 3.0v not sure read it other day.

BTW if you get good ram you can run CAS 1.5 even though not officially supported by AMD on a venice core anyhow.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Ackmed
It did work before, it just wasnt as stable as they would have liked it.

Too late for me to try this... just got the DFI NF4-D a few weeks ago. Which is a better board than my A8N-SLI was for overclocking.

Darn.

Some guys, me included would have just added another card to the Asus and got 30-90% more performance.

You get to disassemble your whole system, void your warranty with your OC, and get maybe 5-10%.

I'm PMing before I upgrade Ackmed, you are the master.

 

[biostud]

Are DSI the new guys in town?

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Creig
C) Maybe now people will stop calling it "vaporware". :roll:

Until you can buy it, that's what it is? 7800Ultra,7800GT, R520, Crossfire- all vaporware.

What do you call products that are supposedly going to be available in the future Creig?

"Pre-reality"? LOL

No, it's called "using the correct terminology" LOL!

Vaporware (also called vapourware) is software or hardware which is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge, either with or without a protracted development cycle. The term implies deception, or at least a negligent degree of optimism; that is, it implies that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility.

 

[KeepItRed]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: KeepItRed
Omg! This sounds badass, I hope TheInq is correct...

DSI Crossfire

EDIT: There we are, sorry about that. Heheh

Errr, what exactly from that article sounds "badass" to you KeepItRed?

That ATI might have ironed out their Southbridge so it actually works?

Obviously. This boards going to own the SLI

 

[imported_humey]

Dont believe everything you read on paper, you are still going to be "building your pc" when its ddr2 sata 600, EFI (no bios eprom) and all slots on mobos are pci-e not pci and sli2 is out, you know this ?

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: humey
Hmm in this day and age your better on low volt low latency ram like Corsair etc with samdung tccd 1.2 not winbond type ram that needs 3+ volts

The NF4 is better on the tccd anyhow, i think the premium has around 3.0v not sure read it other day.

Why do you say that? Read Anand's review of OCZ vx gold pc4000 ram, it outperforms the competition at any speed from 400 to 533 mhz. I bought the OCZ ram for that very reason, because it allows high mhz operation, without sacrificing low latency, and it's fast at a wide range of speeds. Some low-voltage ram can match it's performance, but you'll have to run it at like 600mhz.

And speaking of voltage, I just bought the DFI Ultra-D because it allows high ram voltage, but I might just have to sell it and get the x-fire version if it performs as well as sli or better.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Ackmed
It did work before, it just wasnt as stable as they would have liked it.

Too late for me to try this... just got the DFI NF4-D a few weeks ago. Which is a better board than my A8N-SLI was for overclocking.

No need to debate you here. You did it yourself.

Anyway, less performance (and I'm just assuming the ULi SB has less performance than the ATI SB cause everyone else assumes this) is always more desireable than any instability. "If" I were a candidate for an Xpress 200 mobo, I would more than prefer the ULi southbridge over ATI's.

And as it was in a pre-release state, this was nothing but a source for concern. We'll find out soon enough if ATI was able to fix any nagging problems in time for its actual public release.

 

[KeepItRed]

Lol they have to fix something otherwise their done for good.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: KeepItRed

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: KeepItRed
Omg! This sounds badass, I hope TheInq is correct...

DSI Crossfire

EDIT: There we are, sorry about that. Heheh

Errr, what exactly from that article sounds "badass" to you KeepItRed?

That ATI might have ironed out their Southbridge so it actually works?

Obviously. This boards going to own the SLI

Obviously? Is that why DFI/ATI have this board out to reviewers with loads of benchmarks that show this? This board seems like it will be cool, but I don't see how from the feature set listed that this motherboard is any more "badass" or why it "rocks around the clock" any more than a DFI or an Asus SLI motherboard.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Ackmed
It did work before, it just wasnt as stable as they would have liked it.

Too late for me to try this... just got the DFI NF4-D a few weeks ago. Which is a better board than my A8N-SLI was for overclocking.

No need to debate you here. You did it yourself.

Anyway, less performance (and I'm just assuming the ULi SB has less performance than the ATI SB cause everyone else assumes this) is always more desireable than any instability. "If" I were a candidate for an Xpress 200 mobo, I would more than prefer the ULi southbridge over ATI's.

And as it was in a pre-release state, this was nothing but a source for concern. We'll find out soon enough if ATI was able to fix any nagging problems in time for its actual public release.

Yah, my post was based on current word of the ATI SB. I am sure they will work out any bugs or instabilities eventually with new revisions or maybe even just driver improvements over time.

 

[imported_humey]

munky, google the part where DFI warn you not to use the 5v line to feed ram as it caused a peep to fook his mobo, the days of needing high voltage ram is gone.

Winbond = old
Tccd = new

With low CAS i mean 2 or bellow, not 2.5 or 3.0 YUK


Run your mobo at CAS 1.5 if your cpu accepts it cause its no officially supported by AMD and see how it feels, if ram will go that low.

P.S i also read this sites review of the working PvP last time and that was load of lies wasnt it ?, i stick to input by individuals i know online that seem to have cash to waste on new parts every month.


http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2312 < This review ?

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Ackmed
It did work before, it just wasnt as stable as they would have liked it.

Too late for me to try this... just got the DFI NF4-D a few weeks ago. Which is a better board than my A8N-SLI was for overclocking.

Darn.

Some guys, me included would have just added another card to the Asus and got 30-90% more performance.

You get to disassemble your whole system, void your warranty with your OC, and get maybe 5-10%.

I'm PMing before I upgrade Ackmed, you are the master.

First off, I couldnt just add another card to the A8N. I have a X850XT/PE with it.

What else are you rambling about? SLI is not for everyone, why you cant accept that is beyond me. Even so, if I decide to, I can still add another to this board, it can do SLI too. I didnt void my warranty on anything but my CPU, because I have overclocked it. Just as I did in my A8N, so nothing changed.

Your brand bias is really funny.

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: Ackmed
It did work before, it just wasnt as stable as they would have liked it.

Too late for me to try this... just got the DFI NF4-D a few weeks ago. Which is a better board than my A8N-SLI was for overclocking.

No need to debate you here. You did it yourself.

Anyway, less performance (and I'm just assuming the ULi SB has less performance than the ATI SB cause everyone else assumes this) is always more desireable than any instability. "If" I were a candidate for an Xpress 200 mobo, I would more than prefer the ULi southbridge over ATI's.

Just because it wasnt stable, didnt mean it didnt work. It worked by definition of the word. Saying it didnt work, is wrong. All new beta hardware has bugs, or isnt 100% stable. Do you think the nForce chipsets are always stable before they ship? Nope.

Originally posted by: humey
Hmm in this day and age your better on low volt low latency ram like Corsair etc with samdung tccd 1.2 not winbond type ram that needs 3+ volts

The NF4 is better on the tccd anyhow, i think the premium has around 3.0v not sure read it other day.

BTW if you get good ram you can run CAS 1.5 even though not officially supported by AMD on a venice core anyhow.

I have low latency ram, the lowest out there in fact. Mushkin PC4000 is the best out there. Read Anands review for proof of this. Im running 4x512 of it, to get smooth gameplay in BF2. Running it at 11x250 Cas2 2-2-6. There is no other ram out there that can do that, that I have found. The only downside is that I lost 1T, but it doesnt impact game frames more than a few frames anways.

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So who else wants to jump on the bandwagon this morning?

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Yah, my post was based on current word of the ATI SB. I am sure they will work out any bugs or instabilities eventually with new revisions or maybe even just driver improvements over time.

I only hope that if there are any bugs, they're solved QUICKLY. It's never a good thing if manufacturers release products knowing they have problems that can't be sorted out fairly quickly (or at all).

I still remember buying a KT133 motherboard that was advertised as being XP compatible only to find out it wasn't due to hardware limitations. Shortly after they released the KT133A chipset which WAS XP compatible, but that didn't help me all that much.

 

[blckgrffn]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Ackmed
It did work before, it just wasnt as stable as they would have liked it.

Too late for me to try this... just got the DFI NF4-D a few weeks ago. Which is a better board than my A8N-SLI was for overclocking.

Darn.

Some guys, me included would have just added another card to the Asus and got 30-90% more performance.

You get to disassemble your whole system, void your warranty with your OC, and get maybe 5-10%.

I'm PMing before I upgrade Ackmed, you are the master.

LOL, rollo, you are one funny guy when it comes to this. You, of all people, don't think 5-10%, probably more with his CPU/RAM setup, is worth the $100 or so bucks his DFI probably cost max after dumping his ASUS.

Why should he spend $500 on getting one 7800GTX let alone $1,000 on two when he has the undisputably fastest card from the last generation. Gaining SM3 and Trasparency AA just can't be worth that... especially if he is able to pick up a master card for his X800 series card and gain that 50-90% you mentioned ealier for $400-$500...

Anway, I do hope that ATI gets a nice, stable, widely available chipset out. I will be going to PCIe sometime this fall, and the more quality choices, the better I am encouraged to see DFI adopting it now, so all the bugs will be out in 2-3 months

Nat

 

[QurazyQuisp]

Rollo, you should be welcoming the competition not making fun of everything that is made by the other company because nVidia is perfect, and never has any problems what so ever.

You do realize that without the competition we'd be stuck in TNT2 days and they'd just come out with SLI... you'd pay $1000 per card to play doom 3. You'd make a post like this: "Aaaaaaahhh you guys suck because you don't have TNT2 in SLI, I can get half an FPS compared you your third of an fps... aaaaaaaahhhh"

I'm still trying to figure out how you can like one company more, you'd think anyone with a brain would figure, oh, I can pay $400 for this card that consistantly gets 20fps then this card by the other company that costs the same amount of money.... I think I'll get the one that gets better fps. But no, you buy the cards from one company, and one company only, and even if they aren't is good you still make fun of everything from that other company.