Eagles vs. Cowboys smack talk

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Kev

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Kev
well i'm not sure any of us know what is going on in parcell's head, whether he will keep carter or not, but a RB and QB would make you definite playoff contenders. super bowl contenders, i dont know about that...


Haha. Yeah sure. Uh they are already playoff contenders this year with no QB and no RB. They are a legit Super Bowl contender. You guys need to quit kidding yourselves.
first of all i was talking about being contenders going into the year. the cowboys were not "playoff contenders" at the beginning of this year, and to say that they would be superbowl contenders after one winning season and adding a few players (all things you are assuming will happen) is just silly. besides they would still have to pass through philly and ny, who has a good team but could be much better with a good coach...

Dallas will still have a top #3 defense next year, and their offense should be ranked much higher once they fix a couple problems on the O-line and get a QB and RB.

you mean the top 3 defense that just gave up 36 points?

 

GasX

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Originally posted by: Deeko
They find ways to win, which is a good thing for a team, but in the end, you gotta win some games decisively.
Was today decisive enough for you?

 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: Deeko
I will stick by my statement that running back by committe is not the way to go. You telling me you'd rather have those 3 than a priest holmes, or ahman green? You'll say yes because you are an Eagles fan, but actually thinking that is ludicrious.

I knew the game was over when the Eagles went up 17-10. Dallas, specifically Carter, cannot play from behind in the 2nd half, they just can't. The Cowboys got totally outplayed in that 2nd half, but that was after they laid down to die. The game could have been different had the official not called that BS pass interference call.

Oh, and as good a coach as Bill parcells is, cutting Derek Ross is the worst move he's made all season. Mario Edwards is *not* good. Ross should be starting in the right side. Pete Hunter should not be playing the slot, he should not be in the game at all on defense, only special teams. They seriously hurt their defense with that move, and Zuriel Smith can't return kicks well either.

And Kev, you can't say Dallas won't be a contendor next year. Look at the improvement they've made since last year. If they get either a high caliber QB, or a high caliber RB, one or the other, they will contend. If they get both, they will do more than contend. Mark my words.


The problem with Edwards is, he doesnt even have to do anything to be called for pass interference. The refs just keep calling it on him for no reason week after week, that starts to effect a player game mentally and physically.

I mean the past three games, if Edwards looks at the ref/wr wrong the flag gets thrown. Getting rid of Woody Dantzler, in favor of Zuriel Smith at the end of the pre season IMHO was Parcells biggest mistake. Dantzler offered trick plays, backup RB, and a good kick/punt returner. I know he might have had a minor injury or two that would have kept him out a couple weeks, but that guy had alot more potential than smith. Getting rid of Ross was stupid, but I honestly think if Edwards can get past the mental block all these BS pass interfence calls, he would be alot better than Ross. If Im not mistaken though, Edwards contract is up at the end of this season, I dont think he will be resigned.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: ISO
Just wait until McNabb chokes like the bitch he is. Then we'll see who's laughing ...
70,000+ Eagles are laughing... How about you, bitch?

 

Kev

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Kev
I will stick by my statement that running back by committe is not the way to go. You telling me you'd rather have those 3 than a priest holmes, or ahman green? You'll say yes because you are an Eagles fan, but actually thinking that is ludicrious.

whoever said i wouldn't rather have pro bowl backs on my team? they're making due with what they have, and obviously being successful. you said they would do nothing today, and they have proven week in and week out that they can get the job done together.

Well, today Dallas laid down and let themselves be run over. With they way they played today, San Diego or Detroit could have beaten them. The Cowboys committee of RB's has put up 119 ypg, the Eagles 127. Not THAT much better. Now are you telling me that Dallas' committee is making due?

they were making due (the first half) until quincy carter was forced to start actually playing.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: Kev
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Kev
I will stick by my statement that running back by committe is not the way to go. You telling me you'd rather have those 3 than a priest holmes, or ahman green? You'll say yes because you are an Eagles fan, but actually thinking that is ludicrious.

whoever said i wouldn't rather have pro bowl backs on my team? they're making due with what they have, and obviously being successful. you said they would do nothing today, and they have proven week in and week out that they can get the job done together.

Well, today Dallas laid down and let themselves be run over. With they way they played today, San Diego or Detroit could have beaten them. The Cowboys committee of RB's has put up 119 ypg, the Eagles 127. Not THAT much better. Now are you telling me that Dallas' committee is making due?

they were making due (the first half) until quincy carter was forced to start actually playing.

If Dallas' playoff hopes werent still on the line, I wouldnt mind seeing Bill Parcels letting Romo start the rest of the season.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Deeko
They find ways to win, which is a good thing for a team, but in the end, you gotta win some games decisively.
Was today decisive enough for you?

Meh. Like I said, todays win had more to do with Dallas forgetting how to play football than the Eagles actually playing well. Did you see Roy Williams and Terrance Newman just let Buckhalter waltz into the end zone? Did you see Quincy throw multiple balls directly to receivers? Did you see Quincy throw the ball to Carter, Glenn, or Bryant(no you didn't, because he threw the ball their direction 3 times the entire game, none of them even catchable). Did you see 3 tacklers all but move out of Westbook's way on his touchdown run? I still think St Louis is going to the Superbowl from the NFC...and whoever goes from the NFC is going to get smashed by either Kansas City, Indy, NE, or whoever happens to be there.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Dallas defense is going to rip the sh!t out of your pathetic "run by committee". McNabb is your only good player on offense, but it doesn't matter because none of the Philly wide outs know how to catch the football. As poor as the Dallas run game is, just how effective has Philly been at stopping the run lately? Dallas will still run for 100 yards total. Knock Quincy all you want, half of his interceptions come from hailmary's or end of game drives when it doesn't matter anymore, and he has more TD's than McNabb. Just you wait, Dallas will break some skulls at Lincoln Financial tomorrow.

Quick side note, the Eagles have not played a bad weather game in LFF either, so home field isn't as big an advantage as you'd expect.

Another quick note, the last game was a fluke, but not the way your retarded Philly fans think. It was a fluke that it was even that close. Take away like 3 big plays, and Dallas wins 23-7, so quit your whining and go fetch Andy Reid a few more cheesesteaks.
so much to say on this post, but I will just laugh instead...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


pfffftttttt!


 

GasX

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Yea so don't talk until your pathetic team backs it up tomorrow, which they won't.
So, you want to go fvck yourself now, or what?

 

Kev

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go mwilding... dish out that crow!!

i'm watching the post game show... f. mitchell really needs to shut his dumb f*cking mouth. i hate that guy so god damn much. send him to dallas. i'll actually take carter in trade for him.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Deeko
I will stick by my statement that running back by committe is not the way to go. You telling me you'd rather have those 3 than a priest holmes, or ahman green? You'll say yes because you are an Eagles fan, but actually thinking that is ludicrious.

I knew the game was over when the Eagles went up 17-10. Dallas, specifically Carter, cannot play from behind in the 2nd half, they just can't. The Cowboys got totally outplayed in that 2nd half, but that was after they laid down to die. The game could have been different had the official not called that BS pass interference call.

Oh, and as good a coach as Bill parcells is, cutting Derek Ross is the worst move he's made all season. Mario Edwards is *not* good. Ross should be starting in the right side. Pete Hunter should not be playing the slot, he should not be in the game at all on defense, only special teams. They seriously hurt their defense with that move, and Zuriel Smith can't return kicks well either.

And Kev, you can't say Dallas won't be a contendor next year. Look at the improvement they've made since last year. If they get either a high caliber QB, or a high caliber RB, one or the other, they will contend. If they get both, they will do more than contend. Mark my words.


The problem with Edwards is, he doesnt even have to do anything to be called for pass interference. The refs just keep calling it on him for no reason week after week, that starts to effect a player game mentally and physically.

I mean the past three games, if Edwards looks at the ref/wr wrong the flag gets thrown. Getting rid of Woody Dantzler, in favor of Zuriel Smith at the end of the pre season IMHO was Parcells biggest mistake. Dantzler offered trick plays, backup RB, and a good kick/punt returner. I know he might have had a minor injury or two that would have kept him out a couple weeks, but that guy had alot more potential than smith. Getting rid of Ross was stupid, but I honestly think if Edwards can get past the mental block all these BS pass interfence calls, he would be alot better than Ross. If Im not mistaken though, Edwards contract is up at the end of this season, I dont think he will be resigned.

Remember against New England when there were 2 40+ yard DPI calls, giving the Pats the ball on the goal line? Remember how neither of them really were pass interference? That aside, I still don't think he's that good a corner.

Mwilding, why don't you come over here from Dirty Jersey and make something of it yourself? You talk big for someone that isn't even from this city.
 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: Kev
go mwilding... dish out that crow!!

i'm watching the post game show... f. mitchell really needs to shut his dumb f*cking mouth. i hate that guy so god damn much. send him to dallas. i'll actually take carter in trade for him.

Why would dallas take one of your pathetic receivers?
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Mwilding
Originally posted by: Deeko
They find ways to win, which is a good thing for a team, but in the end, you gotta win some games decisively.
Was today decisive enough for you?

Meh. Like I said, todays win had more to do with Dallas forgetting how to play football than the Eagles actually playing well. Did you see Roy Williams and Terrance Newman just let Buckhalter waltz into the end zone? Did you see Quincy throw multiple balls directly to receivers? Did you see Quincy throw the ball to Carter, Glenn, or Bryant(no you didn't, because he threw the ball their direction 3 times the entire game, none of them even catchable). Did you see 3 tacklers all but move out of Westbook's way on his touchdown run? I still think St Louis is going to the Superbowl from the NFC...and whoever goes from the NFC is going to get smashed by either Kansas City, Indy, NE, or whoever happens to be there.
I saw every single second of every single down, and what I saw was a team get shown that is has overstayed its welcome at the top of the NFC...

 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Deeko
I will stick by my statement that running back by committe is not the way to go. You telling me you'd rather have those 3 than a priest holmes, or ahman green? You'll say yes because you are an Eagles fan, but actually thinking that is ludicrious.

I knew the game was over when the Eagles went up 17-10. Dallas, specifically Carter, cannot play from behind in the 2nd half, they just can't. The Cowboys got totally outplayed in that 2nd half, but that was after they laid down to die. The game could have been different had the official not called that BS pass interference call.

Oh, and as good a coach as Bill parcells is, cutting Derek Ross is the worst move he's made all season. Mario Edwards is *not* good. Ross should be starting in the right side. Pete Hunter should not be playing the slot, he should not be in the game at all on defense, only special teams. They seriously hurt their defense with that move, and Zuriel Smith can't return kicks well either.

And Kev, you can't say Dallas won't be a contendor next year. Look at the improvement they've made since last year. If they get either a high caliber QB, or a high caliber RB, one or the other, they will contend. If they get both, they will do more than contend. Mark my words.


The problem with Edwards is, he doesnt even have to do anything to be called for pass interference. The refs just keep calling it on him for no reason week after week, that starts to effect a player game mentally and physically.

I mean the past three games, if Edwards looks at the ref/wr wrong the flag gets thrown. Getting rid of Woody Dantzler, in favor of Zuriel Smith at the end of the pre season IMHO was Parcells biggest mistake. Dantzler offered trick plays, backup RB, and a good kick/punt returner. I know he might have had a minor injury or two that would have kept him out a couple weeks, but that guy had alot more potential than smith. Getting rid of Ross was stupid, but I honestly think if Edwards can get past the mental block all these BS pass interfence calls, he would be alot better than Ross. If Im not mistaken though, Edwards contract is up at the end of this season, I dont think he will be resigned.

Today Edwards got jiffed on one call. Against Miami though he definetly got burned a few times and had to interfere, not that it would have made a difference. Getting rid of Avezzano was Parcell's biggest mistake. Our special teams overall blows this year. Even Jerry wanted him to keep Joe because he was coaching our indoor team and the fact that Joe had such long tenure with the team.

But anyway props to Philly - they definetly are the top seed along with the Rams no matter what way you cut it in the NFC.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: DeekoMwilding, why don't you come over here from Dirty Jersey and make something of it yourself? You talk big for someone that isn't even from this city.
From and in are two different things dumbass...

 

Kev

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Kev
go mwilding... dish out that crow!!

i'm watching the post game show... f. mitchell really needs to shut his dumb f*cking mouth. i hate that guy so god damn much. send him to dallas. i'll actually take carter in trade for him.

Why would dallas take one of your pathetic receivers?

it's funny because you still think the cowboys are good after the ass-pounding you just got.

how many rec/yards did the dallas wideouts have today? thank you, come again
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Kev
go mwilding... dish out that crow!!

i'm watching the post game show... f. mitchell really needs to shut his dumb f*cking mouth. i hate that guy so god damn much. send him to dallas. i'll actually take carter in trade for him.

Why would dallas take one of your pathetic receivers?

Deeko please zip it. Our receiving core is pathetic. I got flamed big time when I said the Cowboys might pickup Keyshawn when he got put inactive by TB earlier this year. Our entire offense needs to get overhauled. Mitchell is way better than any of our receiving core.
 

Deeko

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Are you kidding me? The receivers are the only thing decent on that offense. They didn't have any catches cuz they didnt' get any throws. I'll take Galloway, Glenn, and Bryant over any of the Eagles receivers.
 

digitalsm

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Kev
go mwilding... dish out that crow!!

i'm watching the post game show... f. mitchell really needs to shut his dumb f*cking mouth. i hate that guy so god damn much. send him to dallas. i'll actually take carter in trade for him.

Why would dallas take one of your pathetic receivers?

Deeko please zip it. Our receiving core is pathetic. I got flamed big time when I said the Cowboys might pickup Keyshawn when he got put inactive by TB earlier this year. Our entire offense needs to get overhauled. Mitchell is way better than any of our receiving core.

The recieving core would be good if it had a half decent QB. Dallas has O-line problems, QB problems and RB problems. If they had a decent QB and RB the WRs would be MUCH better. But I do agree right now it seems the WRs just dont care. No one on the offense seems to care all that much. The defense is the heart of the team. If Dallas can plug the two spots on the right side of the offensive line, get a decent QB, a decent RB, the WRs would be more than adequate. You have to remember at the beginning of the season Dallas had 6 talented WRs. And were rated the best receiving core in the NFL. I do believe they could be the best if they had a veteran QB at the helm.
 

GasX

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In case anyone missed it, the QB stats for the game were:

Quincy Carter: 15/24 93 yards 1 TD 2 INT

Donovan McNab: 19/35 248 yards 3 TD ZERO INT
 
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