Early 90nm Athlon64s hitting 3GHz?

[glugglug]

That is one of the things people are saying is in his $12 report. If true, these things should be amazing overclockers.

 

[Falloutboy]

if this is true I think intel is in big trouble a 3ghz a64 will wipe the floor with anying intel has planed. I don't think 4ghz would be enough they would proubly need 4.2-4.4ghz which I don't think they can do on current revisions of thier chip (max oc's unless exotic cooling cap out at 4ghz)

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

i remember when opterons hadn't even hit the market they were already talking about the 90nm cores and they planned for them to only use 35-50watts. how true is it still,or is this information still out of reach?

if AMD can make the next generation cool AND fast,they certain are going to take a larger chunk of the market in all fronts.

 

[glugglug]

3GHz A64 would be more like 4.6 GHz P4.

 

[byosys]

A 3GHz A64? Where do I sign up?

 

[Vette73]

Don't forget, its not only faster, but it is also updated. So 1mhz in .13 A64 is less then a 1mhz .09 A64

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

or it could be more

 

[Nemesis2038]

From the reading correct me if I am wrong but An AMD 2.2 D0 Stepping model is 6% faster in calculations than a 2.2ghz 13 micron cpu? Thats just SuperPi! But the additional enhancements may get 6% across the boards.

A little math and I came up with a 3.3Ghz Opteron being capable once the 9 micron is perfected. Since the Prescott scale about 200mhz behind the regular P4. Intel would need something like a Prescott 5Ghz cpu to keep up with it. If those 6% optimizations are correct as well Intel may need something near 5.3Ghz to catch it. Wow I suspect Intel will be outsourcing manufacturing to IBM or

Like one investment firm said we feel that AMD will scale to 3ghz much faster than Intel will reach 4Ghz. Thus its a hot buy.

Imagine what 64bit performance will be like. INSERT DROOL HERE.

 

[Falloutboy]

if this is true I don't think intel can catch up. they don't have anything th at can hit 4.4+ ghz any time in the near future. and by the time they do I think we'll be seing 3.2ghz a64s with dual core

 

[SickBeast]

Wow. And this is only the first revision of chips a 0.09um. Remember the tbred-a vs. the tbred-b? Huge difference. Hopefully that will carry forward for AMD.

 

[Sonic587]

The market has really turned...who would've thought Intel would be the one playing catch up? Imagine a dual-core, 3.0Ghz, 64-bit mode A64...It will be interesting to see what cards Intel will play in the near future.

^^^
Speculation. It's not true yet!

 

[Nocturnal]

I have never once jumped off the bandwagon. I'm glad I stayed with AMD. I love AMD.

 

[pap1stik]

it seems the discussion in this thread is spiraling ... so lemme continue the proud tradition and say: "wow, I bet the next generation of Athlon cores will perform 3x as fast as the best intel can throw at it, be super overclockable, will only get faster with revisions, run super-duper cool, and will be able to balance my checkbook, manage my investments, and take the kids to soccer practice when I'm busy."

hehe, j/k guys, Ive been with AMD for 3 years now, and I only gain more and more confidence in them as time continues...

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

i hope no one forgot about the sleeping giant called Dothan.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy
i hope no one forgot about the sleeping giant called Dothan.

What about it. It will only get to 2.1Ghz by years end and a 2Ghz version is around the same as a 3Ghz P4.

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

it scales linearly, its barely behind the AMD64 lines mhz for mhz, and its new and has LOTS of room to scale. it also uses very,very little power so putting two in one core could make an amazing, average power consuming processor.

 

[Falloutboy]

I do agree that dothan is intels only hope but i don't beleave it will be ready for at least 6-10mo. intel was planning on p4 uptill recently so I doubt they put any work into the 64bit side on dothan that and all thier dual core design has gone toards the p4 not a p3 type setup.

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

is the dothan still based on the P3? i thought only the banias was and they got away from that with the dothan?

 

[mamisano]

Dual Core won't do anything for you unless the software is programmed for it, that's why we don't see many people running duallies for desktops.

 

[mechBgon]

Ace's Hardware has a small comparison of the 2GHz Dothan and 3.4GHz Prescott in SPECint2000 stuffs: http://www.aceshardware.com/#80000505

Some up, some down.


Oh, and
:Q

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

"Dual Core won't do anything for you unless the software is programmed for it, that's why we don't see many people running duallies for desktops."

well what about HTing then? also, dual setups are rare now because of their price. if dual cores become a common thing it will be accepted like anything else, like x86-64.

 

[Falloutboy]

Originally posted by: AWhackWhiteBoy
is the dothan still based on the P3? i thought only the banias was and they got away from that with the dothan?

dothan is banais with more cache and some other tweaks

 

[AWhackWhiteBoy]

its funny to see something thats largely 1999 technology still doing so well

 

[SneakyStuff]

Go AMD!

 

[Wingznut]

According to semiconductor analyst Rick Wittington...

I don't think "semiconductor analyst" is how I'd describe Rick Whittington... He's a market analyst, and not one I'd necessarily put a whole lot of stock into.

He's always been very "optimistic" regarding AMD, predicting such things as their stock price doubling in 2004 and AMD shipping 90nm parts at 45w and ahead of schedule.

At any rate, I'm not saying that this rumor is or isn't accurate, as I have no idea. But just that because someone wrote it on the internet, doesn't make it fact.