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vrbaba

Diamond Member
Jul 17, 2003
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Originally posted by: SilentRunning
Originally posted by: Googer
I bid on a Receiver on ebay. Seller has one feedback rating and won't reply to my emails so I don't pay him. Two days later I see a similar receiver being sold under his account, so I decide not to ever send him a payment. Four days pass and today out of the blue I get an email from him with a USPS tracking number, but I never sent him a payment. Holy BBQ, what do I do?

You never say whether you won the auction. If you won the auction and the seller ships the package what makes you think you are not obligated to pay for the merchandise?

Sure, they should have waited to ship the package until paid but that doesn't free you of your obligation to pay.

Yup. Just because he shipped first does not mean you are not to pay for the item you won. And just because you did not pay doesnt mean you did not promise to purchase.

Why wont you keep it if this is what you expected and bid for? If its some bogus thing, then dont pay and ask him for return postage if he wants it back.

So you are saying you dont want to pay him even though he did exactly what he is suppose to?
 

Fireman

Golden Member
May 18, 2000
1,269
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Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Fireman
Is Googer your eBay neame? If so then a search shows no bidding activity for you in the last 30 days.
Otherwise, if you bid on an item, then you are obligated to pay if you're the winner.
His communication may be poor, but if the item somehow makes it to your doorstep then you should pay for it.
How about a link to the auction and your bidder name?

It's being kept confidential and will not be disclosed. This is an A and B matter.

Then why post it here???

 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
7
81
Originally posted by: Fireman
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Fireman
Is Googer your eBay neame? If so then a search shows no bidding activity for you in the last 30 days.
Otherwise, if you bid on an item, then you are obligated to pay if you're the winner.
His communication may be poor, but if the item somehow makes it to your doorstep then you should pay for it.
How about a link to the auction and your bidder name?

It's being kept confidential and will not be disclosed. This is an A and B matter.

Then why post it here???

Opinions, advice, and general discussion. But I do not want a C party contacting the seller and trying negotiate or intervene on my behalf.
 

Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
30,340
10,859
136
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
op- you're completely at fault. Pay him when the item arrives.




No kidding ... I don't see why this is even in question.
 

Red Dawn

Elite Member
Jun 4, 2001
57,529
3
0
Originally posted by: Captante
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
op- you're completely at fault. Pay him when the item arrives.




No kidding ... I don't see why this is even in question.
I agree, if you won the auction you are obligated to pay for it.

 

Turin39789

Lifer
Nov 21, 2000
12,218
8
81
You won an auction, seller did not respond to emails within two days, but sent you the item you won, and you're not going to pay?

I'd wait till it showed up, if it's the receiver you bought, then pay.
 

jagec

Lifer
Apr 30, 2004
24,442
6
81
Originally posted by: Googer
I'm not worried. You're not supposed to send a package if it hasn't been paid for. I also have a gipe that he does not communicate and have recourse, especially since he's new to ebay.

2 days:roll:

You're basically a scammer. There is no hard-and-fast rule in ebay regarding the order of shipping and paying. It may have been naive of the seller to ship before receiving payment, especially when non-payers like you abound, but it was certainly not against the rules.

Then again, maybe you're right. The fact that he was selling a similar receiver is clear proof that he never meant to do things right. Because no one, in the history of the universe, has ever owned or sold more than one receiver. Ever. One of the signs of the apocalypse is that the antichrist will own more than one receiver.
 

jpeyton

Moderator in SFF, Notebooks, Pre-Built/Barebones
Moderator
Aug 23, 2003
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A tracking number does not mean he shipped it; only that he printed a label for it.
 

ktehmok

Diamond Member
Aug 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: Googer
I bid on a Receiver on ebay. Seller has one feedback rating and won't reply to my emails so I don't pay him. Two days later I see a similar receiver being sold under his account, so I decide not to ever send him a payment. Four days pass and today out of the blue I get an email from him with a USPS tracking number, but I never sent him a payment. Holy BBQ, what do I do?

Did it ever occur to you that he has more than one receiver to sell?

His feedback is irrelevant, until he does something wrong.

You bid, you won, you bought it.

People have lives you know, don't expect an answer from someone in a matter of hours on anything. Not everyone sits in front of their computer hitting the refresh button. Especially a newb.

Either pay for what you bought, or take the feedback you deserve.


 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
7
81
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Googer
I'm not worried. You're not supposed to send a package if it hasn't been paid for. I also have a gipe that he does not communicate and have recourse, especially since he's new to ebay.

2 days:roll:

You're basically a scammer. There is no hard-and-fast rule in ebay regarding the order of shipping and paying. It may have been naive of the seller to ship before receiving payment, especially when non-payers like you abound, but it was certainly not against the rules.

Then again, maybe you're right. The fact that he was selling a similar receiver is clear proof that he never meant to do things right. Because no one, in the history of the universe, has ever owned or sold more than one receiver. Ever. One of the signs of the apocalypse is that the antichrist will own more than one receiver.

You are correct, but that and the lack of communication does look suspect.
 

Deeko

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
30,213
12
81
Uh, you wanted the receiver, right? That's why you bid on it, your only concern was the lack of communication and low feedback.

So if you receive the receiver (hehe) and it is as described, what's the problem? Pay the man, move on.
 

waffleironhead

Diamond Member
Aug 10, 2005
7,041
544
136
You bid on it?
You won it?
The seller sent it?

PAY then and STFU!

They are not obligated to wait for you to say to them. "Um I know I won but i guess I dont trust you enough to send it, so I guess Im not going to pay you."

By bidding on it you entered into a binding agreement to purchase it. You are scum if you back out. scum. If you didnt want it wth did you bid on it? This is all about YOU not following thru on YOUR side of the bargain. YOU are at fault NOT the seller. If you dont want it YOU should pay to send it back as well as paying them for the initial shipping cost.

 

Injury

Lifer
Jul 19, 2004
13,066
2
81
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Fireman
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Fireman
Is Googer your eBay neame? If so then a search shows no bidding activity for you in the last 30 days.
Otherwise, if you bid on an item, then you are obligated to pay if you're the winner.
His communication may be poor, but if the item somehow makes it to your doorstep then you should pay for it.
How about a link to the auction and your bidder name?

It's being kept confidential and will not be disclosed. This is an A and B matter.

Then why post it here???

Opinions, advice, and general discussion. But I do not want a C party contacting the seller and trying negotiate or intervene on my behalf.

No doubt. AT'ers have a bad problem with sticking their noses where they don't belong. Sometimes it's justified, but many times they just make moutains out of molehills.

However, according to ebay's policies you have a contractual obligation to pay for this item regardless of his poor communication skills. He may be stupid for not contacting you prior to shipping, but that's not an acceptable reason to consider the contact null and void. I can't imagine that shipping a receiver was cheap and if you stiff him on this one, you deserve all the crap you get from people trying to play vigilante.

Even if you don't want it anymore, you should still compensate him for shipping and ebay fees.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
7
81
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Fireman
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Fireman
Is Googer your eBay neame? If so then a search shows no bidding activity for you in the last 30 days.
Otherwise, if you bid on an item, then you are obligated to pay if you're the winner.
His communication may be poor, but if the item somehow makes it to your doorstep then you should pay for it.
How about a link to the auction and your bidder name?

It's being kept confidential and will not be disclosed. This is an A and B matter.

Then why post it here???

Opinions, advice, and general discussion. But I do not want a C party contacting the seller and trying negotiate or intervene on my behalf.

No doubt. AT'ers have a bad problem with sticking their noses where they don't belong. Sometimes it's justified, but many times they just make moutains out of molehills.

However, according to ebay's policies you have a contractual obligation to pay for this item regardless of his poor communication skills. He may be stupid for not contacting you prior to shipping, but that's not an acceptable reason to consider the contact null and void. I can't imagine that shipping a receiver was cheap and if you stiff him on this one, you deserve all the crap you get from people trying to play vigilante.

Even if you don't want it anymore, you should still compensate him for shipping and ebay fees.

Agreed, they do tend to make mountains out of molehills and this thread is no exception. ATOT is very harsh crowd.
 

Rinaun

Golden Member
Dec 30, 2005
1,196
1
81
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Fireman
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Fireman
Is Googer your eBay neame? If so then a search shows no bidding activity for you in the last 30 days.
Otherwise, if you bid on an item, then you are obligated to pay if you're the winner.
His communication may be poor, but if the item somehow makes it to your doorstep then you should pay for it.
How about a link to the auction and your bidder name?

It's being kept confidential and will not be disclosed. This is an A and B matter.

Then why post it here???

Opinions, advice, and general discussion. But I do not want a C party contacting the seller and trying negotiate or intervene on my behalf.

No doubt. AT'ers have a bad problem with sticking their noses where they don't belong. Sometimes it's justified, but many times they just make moutains out of molehills.

However, according to ebay's policies you have a contractual obligation to pay for this item regardless of his poor communication skills. He may be stupid for not contacting you prior to shipping, but that's not an acceptable reason to consider the contact null and void. I can't imagine that shipping a receiver was cheap and if you stiff him on this one, you deserve all the crap you get from people trying to play vigilante.

Even if you don't want it anymore, you should still compensate him for shipping and ebay fees.

Agreed, they do tend to make mountains out of molehills and this thread is no exception. ATOT is very harsh crowd.

When you're trying to screw someone (especially since he's most likely new to ebay) and 9/10 people tell you to pay and GTFU, I don't consider it harsh, I consider it you got your answer. THEY wouldn't want to be screwed like that, nor would I. If you bid on an item and win, you HAVE to pay. Even if you are going to be a complete asswipe about it, don't let it sit there at your house for a year. That's where you piss people off.
 

Googer

Lifer
Nov 11, 2004
12,576
7
81
Originally posted by: Rinaun
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Fireman
Originally posted by: Googer
Originally posted by: Fireman
Is Googer your eBay neame? If so then a search shows no bidding activity for you in the last 30 days.
Otherwise, if you bid on an item, then you are obligated to pay if you're the winner.
His communication may be poor, but if the item somehow makes it to your doorstep then you should pay for it.
How about a link to the auction and your bidder name?

It's being kept confidential and will not be disclosed. This is an A and B matter.

Then why post it here???

Opinions, advice, and general discussion. But I do not want a C party contacting the seller and trying negotiate or intervene on my behalf.

No doubt. AT'ers have a bad problem with sticking their noses where they don't belong. Sometimes it's justified, but many times they just make moutains out of molehills.

However, according to ebay's policies you have a contractual obligation to pay for this item regardless of his poor communication skills. He may be stupid for not contacting you prior to shipping, but that's not an acceptable reason to consider the contact null and void. I can't imagine that shipping a receiver was cheap and if you stiff him on this one, you deserve all the crap you get from people trying to play vigilante.

Even if you don't want it anymore, you should still compensate him for shipping and ebay fees.

Agreed, they do tend to make mountains out of molehills and this thread is no exception. ATOT is very harsh crowd.

When you're trying to screw someone (especially since he's most likely new to ebay) and 9/10 people tell you to pay and GTFU, I don't consider it harsh, I consider it you got your answer. THEY wouldn't want to be screwed like that, nor would I. If you bid on an item and win, you HAVE to pay. Even if you are going to be a complete asswipe about it, don't let it sit there at your house for a year. That's where you piss people off.

I never said I was trying to screw someone. I am just surprised by this sellers behavior and do not know what to expect. With 36+ positive transactions to my name, this is the first of it's kind to happen under my watch.
 

Raduque

Lifer
Aug 22, 2004
13,140
138
106
Originally posted by: Googer
One of the signs of the apocalypse is that the antichrist will own more than one receiver.

Awww, crap, I have 3 receivers. I guess I'm going to kill the world. Sorry everybody.

Edit: fixed quotes
 
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