Egypt Riots

moonbogg

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Not saying Morsi is a great guy or anything, but I get the feeling that the Egyptians are like disobedient children and they enjoy the power they get by protesting. I think they would throw out the president no matter who it is. After decades of what was essentially a dictatorship, it is natural for them to exploit their newfound collective power and freedom.
 

nehalem256

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Not saying Morsi is a great guy or anything, but I get the feeling that the Egyptians are like disobedient children and they enjoy the power they get by protesting. I think they would throw out the president no matter who it is. After decades of what was essentially a dictatorship, it is natural for them to exploit their newfound collective power and freedom.

So basically they are a slightly ballsier version of Occupy Wall Street
 

Kadarin

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This.

These riots actually make me feel better about Egypt and its chance to not be a fundamentalist Islamic theocracy.

The Muslim Brotherhood does not comprise a majority in Egypt... The problem was that after the fall of Mubarak, they were the best organized. The people of Egypt understand that once you elect Islamists, it's not so easy to get rid of them again.
 

werepossum

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The Muslim Brotherhood does not comprise a majority in Egypt... The problem was that after the fall of Mubarak, they were the best organized. The people of Egypt understand that once you elect Islamists, it's not so easy to get rid of them again.
True. That's the case in a lot of Islamic nations; it's difficult to electorally defeat the guys who start democracy with organization and money, and the Muslim Brotherhood is often the only substantial power allowed to coexist with the party in power. If Egypt can throw them off, that gives us hope for other Islamic nations to throw off the boot of the dictator without replacing it with the sandal of the Mullah.
 

peonyu

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The people of Egypt fucked up by electing this jackass to begin with.


The Islamic-nutjobs elected him to office, most of the protestors never wanted him in. And the protestors are mostly urban folk, the Islamists tend to live in the rural country side and vote for anything that will further Islam. If Bin-Laden was on the ticket they would vote for him to.

Even in the USA our rural people are often more traditional and religious...the difference is only 5% of our population lives on farms these days whereas 57% of Egyptians live out in the sticks and appear to be Islamo-crazy [and also have sex with goats daily most likely]. Its those people who were bussed in to vote for Morsi during their elections.
 
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JockoJohnson

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The Muslim Brotherhood does not comprise a majority in Egypt... The problem was that after the fall of Mubarak, they were the best organized. The people of Egypt understand that once you elect Islamists, it's not so easy to get rid of them again.

True. Look at how easily Obama won even though people didn't want it.



I had to say it. You had to know it was coming.
 

Zebo

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Good army sticking up for democracy. Morsi was already skating on thin ice just being part of terrorist org Muslim Brotherhood. Then firing judges, trying to shove though Sharia constitution, dismissing opposition posts basically going all fundi dictator instead of addressing all Egyptians rights and economics brought this on himself.

I must say I'm impressed by Egyptians. When first revolt was going on two years ago I was very pessimistic on Egypt's future based on Egyptian attitudes (mainly sharia and abysmal human rights they seemed to favor in pew polling and whatnot) Seems they will not allow themselves to become another Hamas run Gaza Strip.

Civil war is a very real concern like in all these Muslim countries between Islamists and everyone else. Hope they find peaceful resolutions.
 
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lothar

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The statement of the General Command of the Armed Forces
The statement of the General Command of the Armed Forces 07/01/2013 the name of God Of the General Command of the forces Egyptian arena witnessed yesterday and the whole world demonstrations and a departure for the great people of Egypt to express his opinion and will peacefully and civilized is unprecedented. - everyone saw the movement of the Egyptian people and heard his voice with the utmost respect and attention ... It is imperative to have people in response to the movement and the appeal of each party shall bear a measure of responsibility in these dangerous conditions surrounding the home. - The Egyptian armed forces as a major in the equation of the future and based on its responsibility of national and historical in protecting the safety and security of this nation - emphasizes the following: * The armed forces will not be involved in a circle politics or government does not accept to go out for her role decree in democratic thought inherent stemming from the will of the people. * The national security of the state is at risk of severe about the developments taking place in the country, a cast we have responsibilities, each according to his deal as befits order to prevent these risks. * I have sensed the armed forces early the seriousness of the present situation and carries with it the demands of the great Egyptian people ... Therefore has already identified a-week deadline for all political forces in the country to agree and get out of the crisis, but this past week without the appearance of any gesture or act ... Which led to the exit of the people designing and determination and with full freedom as such resounding raised the admiration and appreciation of and interest on the internal, regional and international. * The loss of more time will not bring only further division and wrestle, who warned us not continue to warn him. * I have suffered this people Karim did not find it accompanied by or Ihno upon which cast the burden of moral and myself on the armed forces that you find compelled to stop everyone from anything other than embrace this nation proud, who demonstrated the willingness to achieve the impossible if he felt loyalty and dedication for it. - The armed forces re- It reiterates the call to meet the demands of the people and slowed everyone [48] hours as a last chance to bear the burdens of circumstance the historic pass by the nation which will not tolerate or forgive any forces fail to shoulder their responsibilities. - and calls upon the armed forces everyone that if he did not materialize people's demands within the deadline will be required the basis of the historical and national responsibility and respect for the demands of the great people of Egypt to announce a map of the future and oversees the implementation of procedures and the participation of all shades and sincere national trends, including the youth, who was and still is a suicide glorious revolution ... And without exclusion or eliminated for one. - tribute and Azaz to the men of the armed forces loyal faithful who were and still متحملين responsibility of national towards the great people of Egypt with all the resolve and determination and pride. God save Egypt and its people proud and great and peace, mercy and blessings of God as you can see all bulletins and programs news through our e www.enc.eg
 

woolfe9998

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Not saying Morsi is a great guy or anything, but I get the feeling that the Egyptians are like disobedient children and they enjoy the power they get by protesting. I think they would throw out the president no matter who it is. After decades of what was essentially a dictatorship, it is natural for them to exploit their newfound collective power and freedom.

The economy there has been tanking for the past year. I think their reasons for protesting are more specific than you're suggesting.
 

Zebo

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Yes and no. Was he the right guy? No. Is it important he was elected? Yes.

Egypt had the same President for a long time. An entire generation of people were born and raised while he was President. It was important for the people and that generation to accept the idea that the President is who we decide it is. And they decided... badly, but it solidified that it could be done. Now, they need to do it again - with less violence, and they need to keep doing it.

I feel good things for Egypt and hope they continue progressing into a more democratic society. The ultimate goal (in my opinion) is the elimination of Islam from their government for them to become secular like Turkey but one step at a time.

Turkey is getting more Muslim. Thats what all the demonstartions there are about and EUs dragging thier feet on admission. No way will they allow 70 million fundis free access to Europe blowing up 800 year old churches and discos. Atatürk was a long time ago and they have gotten more Islamist ever since.
 
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Zebo

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Awesome picks lothar

I think i understand now why Obama gave them 4beez in military aid. He knew he held the cards ultimately if MB got outta line and secured his position with more arms.

Our right wing concerns were unfounded.
 

fskimospy

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Awesome picks lothar

I think i understand now why Obama gave them 4beez in military aid. He knew he held the cards ultimately if MB got outta line and secured his position with more arms.

Our right wing concerns were unfounded.

No, he (like all presidents before him for the last 3 decades or so) decided to keep the terms of the Camp David Accords. That, much more than any other factor, is why we give them military aid.
 

KMFJD

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From what i had been reading about their last election the MB were only allowed to have a certain amount of representatives stand for election, to get around this a lot of their candidates suddenly left the party and set up their own thereby circumventing the rules. They then formed a coalition with the MB and Morsi became president.

/could be wrong though
 
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