Eric Garner all over again

[pcgeek11]

Inknow you are a stickler for facts so when did violent protest start and when did that picture get taken? Was it over a week between the two dates?

I have no idea and that doesn't negate the facts of bringing a child to a protest / riot being irresponsible and stupid.

 

[zzyzxroad]

I have no idea and that doesn't negate the facts of bringing a child to a protest / riot being irresponsible and stupid.

So facts don't matter? You said something that was factually inaccurate. How can anyone have a discussion with you if you insist on playing fast and loose with facts.

Please correct your timeline so we can move on good sir.

 

[pcgeek11]

So facts don't matter? You said something that was factually inaccurate. How can anyone have a discussion with you if you insist on playing fast and loose with facts.

Please correct your timeline so we can move on good sir.

I don't know WTF you are talking about where was I factually inaccurate?

 

[ivwshane]

Oh boy, we've got ourselves another docsavagefan here playing the "who me" game.

 

[zzyzxroad]

I don't know WTF you are talking about where was I factually inaccurate?

It wasn't a long back and forth. You really can't find it. It's like a wheres waldo with just a picture of Waldo.

 

[pcgeek11]

It wasn't a long back and forth. You really can't find it. It's like a wheres waldo with just a picture of Waldo.

Have fun with your game...

I'm not playing.

 

[zzyzxroad]

Have fun with your game...

I'm not playing.

Good. if you don't have a full deck, I don't recommend playing.

 

[QueBert]

New Study Says White Police Officers Are Not More Likely To Shoot Minority Suspects

A new peer-reviewed study of fatal police shootings says that white officers are not more likely to shoot and kill minority suspects. Critics contend it doesn't address racial disparities by police.

www.npr.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/investigative/2015/12/26/a-year-of-reckoning-police-fatally-shoot-nearly-1000/?itid=sf_

Also, some interesting info was released by the autopsy if no one here has posted it. First off, 3 officers were sitting on George. He was also overdosed on meth and phentonol. He wasn't killed by asphyxiation but by heart attack from the drugs. He was complaining of heart problems and breathing problems before being put to the ground. The cops had a hard time getting him out of his vehicle as he was collapsing when they were pulling him out before sitting him next to the wall. The cops didn't kill him here at all.

Medical Examiner: George Floyd Wasn’t Asphyxiated

From the first hours after George Floyd died on Lake Street in Minneapolis, the rush to convict the officers who took him into custody seemed unstoppable. The frenzy was fueled by a video of one of…

www.powerlineblog.com

LOL, you have a better imagination than my youngest niece, that's a great story. Nothing I can find on Google corroborates what you said. I did find a story talking about how he had heart problems, but not from drugs. I don't frequent P&N, so I'll just assume you're one of the residential trolls.

 

[QueBert]

I have no idea and that doesn't negate the facts of bringing a child to a protest / riot being irresponsible and stupid.

In my town there has been 3 days of protests, being completely peaceful. The only violence was a Sheriff busted out a car window (for no reason) But in your estimation it would be irresponsible and stupid for somebody to take a kid still? Well I guess it would be, because the sheriff was a thug. But the actual protest was nice and calm.

 

[amenx]

Not sure if this has been posted, but I will risk doing so knowing we live in an age of disinformation. So take with grain of salt.

George Floyd had coronavirus and died after cardiac attack, police report claims

Hennepin County has released the George Floyd autopsy report, which confirms he died from a heart attack which was complicated by law enforcement subdual

www.dailystar.co.uk

 

[QueBert]

So, he had Coronavirus? and just happened to die from it while the cop had his full body weight on a knee on his neck? That link says

Hennepin County has released the George Floyd autopsy report, which confirms he died from a heart attack which was complicated by law enforcement subdual .

Now I'll be the 1st to admit the "complicated by law enforcement subdual" somewhat confuses me. I don't find much complicated, if a cop hadn't been smashing his knee into his neck for 8+ minutes he wouldn't have died. Unless we're suppose to believe it was just dumb luck and he was going to die at that moment regardless anyways.

Would be poetic justice if he did have Covid-19 and at least 2 of the idiot cops involved in his death end up getting it too.

 

[Tim_Derr]

Really?
I couldn't wish death on anyone, no matter how bad they are. This is why we have a judicial system

 

[QueBert]

Really?
I couldn't wish death on anyone, no matter how bad they are. This is why we have a judicial system

Never said I hope they die from it, but it wouldn't be sad to me if they survived and lost part of their lung capacity. So for the rest of their life had trouble breathing at times that way they'd always have a reminder of what they did. I don't have much faith in justice in our country when police are on the ones on the line.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Neither of those have anything to do with what I said.

I explained why I liked the post. Sorry it doesn't meet your "high" standards.

Sure geek, you totally covered your ass, lol.

And it does have to do with what you said, you choose not to acknowledge it

 

[pcgeek11]

Sure geek, you totally covered your ass, lol.

And it does have to do with what you said, you choose not to acknowledge it

You can "see" it however you like. I really do not care.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You can "see" it however you like. I really do not care.

You quote the right person? I didn't use the word see in the post.

Either way, we both know you're told old to change, and challenging your pov simply won't happen. It's what we "see" repeatedly from you on this forum.

For instance, you claimed someone else's view of Ethiopia was that's it's a shithole, where youre too stuck in your ways to realize that poster was just quoting Trump's rhetoric about countries he doesn't want immigrants from. And your either stupid or dishonest enough to say it was that posters opinion.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Right, all you can do is "lol" the post.

 

[TheVrolok]

So you think it is OK to bring a small child to a riot?

lol, idiot.

 

[brycejones]

That is an ignorant statement. That picture is a pretty small instant of time. Burning, looting, throwing projectiles, shooting, tear gas....

Hint: Watch a news show or look on the internet.

Look you made a statement about that moment in time. Back it up or stop lying.

Edit i see it’s already covered above and you couldn’t back it up but kept lying.

 

[ch33zw1z]

lol, idiot.

He is quite dedicated to his narrative

 

[snoopy7548]

Don't feed the troll. He's distracting from the real issues here:

-Police brutality
-Use of law enforcement to illegally attack peaceful protestors

 

[HumblePie]

#1) For the millionith time white people outnumber blacks 82%-12%. Of course there are going to be more shots fired at whites, because there are many more! Black men are pulled over and harrased by PO much more than white people, although they only make up a very small portion of males. You can actually throw in hispanic males as well. I know you mentioend the stats. I just wanted to restate what you said in my own words.

I already said why you are wrong here in my original post.

Police kill more whites than blacks, but minority deaths generate more outrage: analysis

Nobel Prize-winning novelist Toni Morrison says she wants to see an officer shoot an unarmed white teenager in the back before agreeing that the “conversation about race” is over, but she almost certainly already has received her wish.

www.washingtontimes.com

If you adjust for population ONLY, then yes it looks like blacks are killed more often. That is a very BAD bit of math to do here. When you adjust for criminal contacts made with police, ie how often the police actually come into contact with a specific ethnic group, white people are far more likely to be killed than black people. Straight up because 4% of the population, IE young black males from ages of 14-34, come into contact with police at a ridiculously higher rate (more so in specific areas of the country) than any other demographic. This holds true for all other demographics. Based on that, it is statistically more likely if you are not black to be shot at any given police encounter than if you are black.

#2) Did Floyd die by meth and phentonol? Maybe. The fact is people don't trust the police so whatever comes out will be disputed. It could be true. Again, they lost the trust of the black community so no one is going to believe the reports anyway.There is an independent report that refutes your report. Who should we believe?

3) Floyd is a big guy/ No one is arguing that there was a struggle. It did take 3 cops to subdue Floyd. Still doesn't give the cops the right to have him pinned down like that, and to have a knee on the neck of Mr. Floyd is inhumane. I don't care the reasons why officer Derek did it. The amount of time he held his knee in Floyd's neck was totally inappropriate, and again inhumane.

As far as the drugs, that is just the article I read at the time the other day and saw people talking about. Whether there is more to the autopsy or not to go we'll all find out in due time.

 

[ch33zw1z]

To Protect and Serve, sumthin sumthin

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268387165421125633

 

[ch33zw1z]

Here's a weird one

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268387990000340993

 

[ch33zw1z]

I feel like this cop was trying to be sarcastic / funny, but very inappropriate for the situation

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268433814629552132