Eric Garner all over again

[Atreus21]

and that's an opinion. it's ok for people to have different opinions, especially if they actually make a point with it.

if a 1st degree charge failed in the courts, it would likely keep the case in the public eye much longer and keep pressure on politicians. the prosecution could get accused of picking a charge they knew they couldn't land, essentially letting the cop off the hook. there would be a massive amount of backlash from the public. so, i see the strategy there. i don't agree with it, but i understand it.

Yeah, there will be a massive backlash alright, but certainly not against the prosecution's stupidity. It'll be held up as yet more evidence of a system biased against blacks. More protests and rioting will follow, but certainly not against stupid prosecutors.

George Zimmerman would be behind bars right the hell now if the prosecution hadn't done the same damned thing.

 

[QueBert]

WTF? I never said that and you are making a horrible strawman argument. I am pointing to perspective the narrative that black people are killed more than white people by police. I was also stating how stupid the analogy posted earlier about BLM was. It was stupid because it had based the analogy off incorrect facts and assumptions.

Just because I am posting actual data about what is going on doesn't mean I am speaking from one side or the other. Shut your pie hole with your vomit.

It's also the way they're [black people] killed. Again, white people aren't pulled over because they're white, then killed because they're white. Racial profiling though is a real thing, now I'm sure you personally don't think it's a big issue, as a lot of non-black people do. But it happens and it leads to deaths. I won't be killed by a LEO because of my skin color, that's a fact. Black people are killed more unjustly than caucasian people, I think this is pretty much a fact too. And I'm willing to bet, even black people wouldn't protest if police killed an African American who shot up a school and killed a bunch of kids, or something, I dunno, bad? There were over 250 black people killed by police in 2019, and uh, maybe 5 protests? The white dude who shot up the Batman movie premier and killed all those people. Black people wouldn't be up in arms if that had been a black man and the police killed him. See how that works? Black people however are protesting the death of a black man who hadn't done anything by a cop where there's a video CLEARLY showing it. See how that works?

I'm going to go out about 2 inches on a limb here, I agree with almost every time black people protest a cop killing a black person, it doesn't happen often (protesting that is) so usually, they have a pretty damn valid reason to be upset. But on the flip side TMZ'ers & Fox News'ers will always let us know mainstream media has a bias and wants to push racism. And that every black person killed by a LEO's a thug who was high on drugs. Every single one. The "stories" coming out here pushed by the Fox New fans is George Floyd was high on drugs, now if that turns out to be true. Does that in any way make what the 4 cops did less heinous?
I'm going to go out on a limb again and say I saw the video, high or not he didn't deserve to die, especially the way he did.

 

[QueBert]

Zero of my black friends, relatives, and such have ever felt fear about white police officers in this country. They don't live in shitty areas. They are college educated, with good jobs, and are great people. So fuck you and your racist slant and trying to accuse me of racism. The facts are the facts. No amount of wanting to change those numbers that have happened will change them. We can do something about it in the future. but race baiting and rioting isn't going to solve anything here.

As far as white people getting killed for being white. You haven't looked to hard have you? How about 5 white cops in Dallas a couple years back gun down by a black separatist? I didn't even have to look that one up. It fucking happens. Jesus Christ how small of a bubble do you live in? You want to see everything through the lens of the big bad white man brother is out to get me at every turn and that all white people are racist white KKK members is not going to solve anything in the world. It is just going to leave you an empty angry shell of a person.

Bold part just proves if you look hard enough, you can find a story or 2 to support ANYTHING you want (just about) I will concede that technically you're right here, it does happen. Now for every story you got like that, I'll post 25 about black people getting killed unjustly by LEOs. And you'll still run out of stories to back up your claim while I'll have more left.

You mentioned "zero of my black friends" at the start of your rant. I'm guessing that's how many black people you know, zero. Educated black people get pulled over unjustly in Beverly Hills and nice areas too.

 

[quikah]

And that's why she wants to burn down Target?

Maybe? You would have to ask her.

This is the full speech, might give you more context:

 

[BUTCH1]

Why not charge him with 1st degree then?

Because you can't switch to a lesser charge if it goes badly, if you charge #1 you must prove #1, if you fail to meet that standard he walks.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Because you can't switch to a lesser charge if it goes badly, if you charge #1 you must prove #1, if you fail to meet that standard he walks.

exactly!!

 

[KMFJD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268575968085463041

Drew Brees is being blasted

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268673244715859968

more de-escelation from the cops

 

[JEDIYoda]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268575968085463041

Drew Brees is being blasted

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268673244715859968

more de-escelation from the cops

we are headed towards a Police State!

 

[TheVrolok]

Notice the knee on her neck...funny they claim they're not taught that but it seems they all do it.

Jesus christ

 

[TheVrolok]

The more I think of it the more I think Ellison is a moron. I don't think prosecutors will be able to prove intent. God help us if the jury acquits because Ellison overcharged. I hope Chauvin doesn't get a competent defense lawyer, for the country's sake.

They don't need to prove he intended to kill him, only that he intended to assault him (knee on the neck), and that the assault led to his death.

They do NOT need to prove that he intended to kill him.

This was a clarification of the law I learned today as well.

 

[KMFJD]

Maybe? You would have to ask her.

This is the full speech, might give you more context:

even better version, thank you

 

[KMFJD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268702159295655938

disgusting

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268706563419668485

 

[Lanyap]

So how far out does this make the cordon around the WH?

At least to the church so he can keep walking over there with A bible for photo ops.

 

[ElFenix]

Because you can't switch to a lesser charge if it goes badly, if you charge #1 you must prove #1, if you fail to meet that standard he walks.

uh, no. lesser included charges are generally available if the jury doesn't find the top charge.

 

[ElFenix]

violent gang attacks elderly man and leaves him bleeding on the sidewalk

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268717966532792325

 

[Artorias]

violent gang attacks elderly man and leaves him bleeding on the sidewalk

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268717966532792325

The man was bleeding out of his ear and they just kept on walking. What more can be said.

 

[KMFJD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268717090934083585

Philly Cops rioting

 

[IronWing]

It's time to defund and demilitarize the police. The punks can kiss that sweet overtime goodbye.

 

[Wreckem]

Police pensions should be the ones paying out excessive force claims. No longer should taxpayers foot the bill. Hit the police in their pocket books. If their cities police pension goes bankrupt because of excessive force settlements they don’t have a pension anymore. IE: clean up your ranks or no retirement.

 

[pcgeek11]

Right, all you can do is "lol" the post.

Because that is all it deserves.

 

[pcgeek11]

Look you made a statement about that moment in time. Back it up or stop lying.

Edit i see it’s already covered above and you couldn’t back it up but kept lying.

What did I lie about?

 

[brycejones]

What did I lie about?

I said what I said and I'm not going to tell you because its a secret.

 

[pcgeek11]

I said what I said and I'm not going to tell you because its a secret.

Yawn.

OK

 

[UberNeuman]

I said what I said and I'm not going to tell you because its a secret.

I don't know why anyone bothers anymore. He's made it clear he's only going to whine and nothing more.

 

[alien42]

The more I think of it the more I think Ellison is a moron. I don't think prosecutors will be able to prove intent. God help us if the jury acquits because Ellison overcharged. I hope Chauvin doesn't get a competent defense lawyer, for the country's sake.

intent isn't necessary for second-degree in Minnesota. you may want to get your facts straight before thinking.

i first heard that on CNN when the charges where changed but here is a NBC link...

Charges against Derek Chauvin suggest George Floyd's death was unintended

Legal analysis: Under the charges, prosecutors don't have to prove former Officer Derek Chauvin intended to kill George Floyd.

www.nbcnews.com