pauldun170
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I'm curious, what was Eric Garner? Michael Brown? Crawford? Castile? Gray? Rice? Sterling?
I guess that'll be enough to make the point.
Do you think LEOs without uniforms and markings should ever be a thing?
That's the question you should be getting from this announcement, and it's weird that you don't.
Do you?They were all human beings. I hope that was your point.
But I know what you are implying...
You are fencing with a guy who rationalizes his Trump vote because of conservative judges, conservative judges that pr definition is about dividing people into have and have nots, take away abortion rights and rendering the lgbtq community a terrorist organization... “all human beings” yea right.Do you?
My point is that it's fairly arbitrary to be against "violent criminals" and for "innocent victims" because life is very rarely that black and white. It's a feel good like that's largely nonsense. There are a lot of shades of gray in the deaths of the men listed, except, of course, that they should not have been killed by those who are supposed to protect and serve.
I'm not really sure what you are trying to say. I would feel the same. I would not be happy that the police are being incentivized to shoot first.I'm gonna go out on a limb, and say that you would not feel that way, were they breaking into your home.
I think you're right in the fact that there's little offshoots of the main denominations. You won't find catholics being considered evangelicals, as IIRC evangelicals basically started with protestant faith. Also iirc, protestants and catholics hated each and fought in the UK/Ireland areas for centuries. It's part of the whole free practice of religion thing we have.
I dont think catholics are considered born again. They require confession thru a priest. Born again believers believe they have a direct path of god since jesus died for their sins.
Joan got torched because she didn’t come from an aristocratic family. The English fully expected the French to ransom her. Even after saving their bacon, to the French lords, she was just another peasant. The French Revolution was a few centuries overdue.yeah, I think that's pretty much true re: born agains and Catholics. ....and kinda explains why wackos among them that claimed to speak directly to God, e.g. Jean d'Arc, were almost always burned at the stake eventually.
While no-knocks are still technically legal, I'm not aware of any departments still attempting to use them, since it is a death warrant for at least the first, if not the first two or three officers through the door, assuming the resident owns a firearm ofI'm not really sure what you are trying to say. I would feel the same. I would not be happy that the police are being incentivized to shoot first.
My point is that, whatever state you are in, they are probably still using no-knock warrants, they are just not doing so with full knowledge that they are probably going to murder whoever is in the house.
We are catching hell from everywhere. Black female officer stopped an illegal choke hold. What happened, they fired her. Police departments don't have much ground to bitch about the current backlash
When did that happen? Recently?
The bill proposed to end qualified immunity for law enforcement officers — which effectively has shielded them from personal liability for their professional actions — and to require prompter release of body-worn camera footage. The final version also bans chokeholds and carotid holds; introduces potential criminal charges for officers who fail to try to stop colleagues from using excessive force; creates a public database of officers who have been decertified, fired, found to be untruthful or in violation of training standards; and significantly increases citizen protections from police tear gas and projectiles.
Well CO just ended qualified immunity among other reforms they are implementing. Wow.
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/06/19/colorado-police-reform-accountability-bill/
Those steps came about because of citizens publicly "virtue signaling".Some good first steps instead of just virtue signaling.
Some good first steps instead of just virtue signaling.
It is as if there HAVE to be a "Village Slow". Is it mandated by the algorithm that governs reality? Like an equation balancing itself? Seems so.
I'm pretty sure some right wing media types were using this murder as justification for harsher police/NG crackdowns and well...
Look who found someone on you tube telling them what they wanted to hear.
Wow, so some dumb ass co-ops an internet meme name and you think those who use that name are the boogie man.
We are catching hell from everywhere. Black female officer stopped an illegal choke hold. What happened, they fired her. Police departments don't have much ground to bitch about the current backlash