EV Silverado actually looks pretty decent. (test drive video)

[Red Squirrel]

710km range which is pretty crazy. My favourite part though is how the back part comes off and the seats can fold in and extend the bed. All the trucks now, even gas ones, have such short beds. So this is a nice way to get around that issue and make the bed usable for building materials. I'd still prefer if they just made a 8 foot bed to begin with but that ship has sailed, I don't think anyone is bothering to make those anymore.

 

[bbhaag]

That is some impressive range especially for such a large vehicle like a truck. The pass through design from bed into cab is really cool to but there are a lot of steps involved.

Overall it looks like a solid design but man I hate those C pillars. I use a 6 foot(1.8 meter)bucket at work to load bulk material like mulch, compost, and topsoil into the bed of trucks and that C pillar design is the worst. Like he mentioned in the video it is very reminiscent of the Avalanche and I hate loading those.

Interior looks nice and well thought out in design especially the read outs on the IPC. I also like the fact that a lot of the most used controls are still physical button. Overall is looks pretty solid.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I think if you want an 8 foot bed you probably have to go through fleet sales or something. 2-seat, 2-door, 8-foot bed pickups are still available to rent from home improvement stores and U-Haul, and they must get those trucks from somewhere.

 

[RPD]

The pass through design looks identical to what was used in the Avalanche. Having been an owner of a 2008 Avalanche (first gen of them turning the valves off in low demand, forgot the name but made it "run" like a V4), I'll never get another GMC product, let alone a first gen, jesus christ fuck all that shit.

Edit - variable valve timing, ugh what a CF that thing was

 

[MrSquished]

but can it do this?

Our Experiences With Tesla FSD 12.3.3 Going Through Roundabouts & Intersections (+ Video) - CleanTechnica

We test Tesla FSD 12.3.3 ("Full Self Driving Supervised") going through a series of roundabouts and intersections in Florida.

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in one day of driving it made a suspect move that would have gotten it into a minor fender bender if the driver behind was more decisive in getting into their lane change, and they had to take over controls because it got way too close to scaring and possibly hitting a pedestrian. They say some good things, but of course, what does it matter when it's utterly unreliable too often. also there are two other videos linked about the new FSD fails. This shit should not be unleashed on the public, it's absolutely insane

"At 23:00, David’s car is getting into a left turn lane and then decides for a moment it should go back into the lane it’s come from, but then realizes it does want to get into the turn lane and goes back to doing the right thing. It’s not a big error, but it’s the kind of thing where if there was a car behind impatiently trying to get through the light ahead, that car could have started speeding up and nicked the back bumper of David’s car when it started returning to the lane, or the driver at least could have been irritated by David’s apparent indecision and attempt to return to the lane he was leaving. That said, being Florida, we noted that it wouldn’t be all that unusual of a thing to see! But, yes, I’m marking that down as a notable error — though, one that I think Tesla’s FSD system should resolve before long."

"At 31:30, I was very close to a pedestrian crossing and there was a man on the right who was ready to cross. My car (FSD) put on the brakes for him, but then started to move forward again as he started to cross! Right after that, it was seemingly slowing down again, but the car was way too close to the pedestrian to take a chance — I didn’t want to risk scaring him, let alone hitting him, so I took over from FSD and hit the brakes."

and then on a highway road trip with clear road markings and no other cars, unsafe -

David and I, separately, happened to make trips from Bradenton to Miami and back after getting version FSD 12.3.1. David used it a ton, including in the city of Miami, and was extremely impressed with it. Soon after leaving Bradenton, I tried using it on the interstate and it kept steering me into the left side of the lane instead of keeping centered. This wasn’t just a matter of preference — it was extreme and certainly wasn’t appropriate with other traffic around — and it didn’t take too long that I gave up on using FSD around other cars on the interstate or in a busy city I’m not familiar with. So, I hardly used FSD on the trip. But then …

On one stretch of I-75 on the way back, there were no cars anywhere close to us in front of us or behind us. It was shocking to have no cars around, but I took the opportunity to try FSD 12.3 again. What happened then was a much bigger shocker. The car did what it had done at the beginning of the trip and started getting too far in the left side of the lane. Then it crossed the lane marking … but didn’t fully change lanes. It sat there straddling the to lanes for a while, about 60% in one lane and 40% in another, or maybe even 50–50. I couldn’t understand it and couldn’t explain it. Naturally, we decided then that I was done testing FSD with other people in the car. Unfortunately, we weren’t filming, but a moment later, we did snap a picture of the roadway in front of us to show how empty it was, how clear the lane markings were, and that the road condition was fine. Here’s the picture:

 

[bbhaag]

The pass through design looks identical to what was used in the Avalanche. Having been an owner of a 2008 Avalanche (first gen of them turning the valves off in low demand, forgot the name but made it "run" like a V4), I'll never get another GMC product, let alone a first gen, jesus christ fuck all that shit.

Edit - variable valve timing, ugh what a CF that thing was

You might be thinking of cylinder deactivation or variable displacement not VVT. VVT is pretty much an industry standard now because of improved emissions, fuel economy, and performance.

While Honda didn't pioneer this technology they made it more mainstream by introducing their VTEC line of engines in the '90's.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I think if you want an 8 foot bed you probably have to go through fleet sales or something. 2-seat, 2-door, 8-foot bed pickups are still available to rent from home improvement stores and U-Haul, and they must get those trucks from somewhere.

You also pay for it. Saw one on a lot and was curious so checked the price sticker. Was over 100k! And that was pre tax, fees, etc.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

You also pay for it. Saw one on a lot and was curious so checked the price sticker. Was over 100k! And that was pre tax, fees, etc.

In the used market I see them come up for about the same price as other trucks.

It looks like I can use Fords configure tool to order a custom F150 with a regular (2-door) cab and an 8’ box for $35k plus options.

Is the exchange rate really that bad right now?

 

[Red Squirrel]

In the used market I see them come up for about the same price as other trucks.

It looks like I can use Fords configure tool to order a custom F150 with a regular (2-door) cab and an 8’ box for $35k plus options.

Is the exchange rate really that bad right now?

Actually now that you mention it that does seem like a new option on Ford's site. Was not there before. Starts at 46k here though and 51k once you add 4x4 which is a must for a truck or you'll be getting stuck everywhere.

35k is a steal for a new truck though. Paid 14k for my used 2009.

 

[RPD]

You might be thinking of cylinder deactivation or variable displacement not VVT. VVT is pretty much an industry standard now because of improved emissions, fuel economy, and performance.

While Honda didn't pioneer this technology they made it more mainstream by introducing their VTEC line of engines in the '90's.

Yea, the deactivation, just thought it had an acronym like VVT. What a shit show, service dealer tried to tell me that my engine was acceptable burning 1qt of oil every 1,000miles, with a straight face.

 

[IronWing]

Yea, the deactivation, just thought it had an acronym like VVT. What a shit show, service dealer tried to tell me that my engine was acceptable burning 1qt of oil every 1,000miles, with a straight face.

GM has been dinking with valve deactivation for decades. There has to be a cult of cylinder deactivation fanatics within the company that just can't quit a bad idea.