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[Martimus]

Ok, sweet. I guess that means that multi-day 0.0 excursions with no friendly stations are possible.

You disappear in 30 seconds if you log off without aggression. If you have aggression against an NPC, that goes up to 2 minutes. If you have aggression against a human, you have 15 minutes before your ships disappears. (The 15 minutes is the time from the last aggression, which is why I ask people how long aggression is against them when I start probing out the person who logged off. I can tell how long I have to find and kill him that way.)

 

[ichy]

Thank you for that clarification.

 

[Fallen Kell]

Yeah, just sit cloaked for a bit (assuming you fit a cloak in the utility high on the drake) before you log out. Should be relatively safe, especially if the system is/was empty when you log.

 

[ichy]

Yeah, just sit cloaked for a bit (assuming you fit a cloak in the utility high on the drake) before you log out. Should be relatively safe, especially if the system is/was empty when you log.

That's what I've done, having a cloaking device is pretty much the only way I can make it that far through hostile 0.0.

I almost got nailed on part of my trip yesterday when I screwed up and allowed myself to get pointed. The fight was about even but I knew the guy's buddies would be arriving to back him up any second. A second enemy arrived and I thought my Drake was a goner, but fortunately I was carrying Hornet EC-300s in my drone bay and the second ship didn't have a point. The Hornets finally got lucky, I was unpointed and off I warped. Those guys spent almost an hour smack talking in local and trying to demand a 100m isk ransom (for a Drake!) but I just went to a safe spot, cloaked up my ship & went AFK.

 

[hrbngr2]

A question for those of you doing exploration in 0.0 space, i've read that they nerfed the loot from anomalies and that the Tru-sec rating of the system has a lot to do with how much you can profit, but I don't understand what I should be looking for at this point.

What sort of systems should i look for Tru-sec wise, also which NPC should I be looking to fight in terms of risk/reward?

Finally this is the link that I've seen w/info on the various sites:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Exploration

Is there more current info elsewhere?

 

[Fallen Kell]

Personally I havn't done much null roaming (aside from the occasional times I am boarded and want to just cause some mayhem), so I can't really tell you what the changes have done. For the tru-sec rating, lower the better. As for profit/risk, it depends on what you are risking to begin with. I mean, personally, anything more than a T2 fit BC is too much to send unless you are part of an alliance or with lots of blues in the area you are going. You will eventually get caught and popped. You can happily rat away in some sections, but eventually someone will notice that there are NPC deaths happening at certain times of the day in a group of systems in their territory, and they will setup a login trap for you with hictors covering all the gates out an area, trapping you within it, and slowly close the noose around you until they have cornered you into a single system and kill you.

 

[Ross Ridge]

I believe the changes mainly just affected upgraded systems in player owned 0.0 systems. Depending on security rating of the system they don't necessarily get the highly profitable 10/10 anomalies that they used to. The changes probably make little difference to an independent explorer as you're going to be fairly limitted to what you can take on like Fallen Kell suggests.

 

[TheVrolok]

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[hrbngr2]

Ross,
thanks for the reply. I am currently in a corp in the drone region in a Angel system, but i think the trusec rating is only like -0.2, not really certain. Anyways, I've never really run anoms/plexes, but I believe i'm supposed to scan and run certain Angel hideouts, towers, etc to upgrade the system. I found that link for exploration sites, but I'm not sure which I'm supposed to run based on the security level of the system. I'm gonna spend some time on evesearch trying to find a decent post on the matter.

 

[Ross Ridge]

If you're in a NPC controlled system in 0.0 then I don't think there's anything you can do to improve the quality or number exploration sites. Upgrading systems is part of the sovereignty mechanics for 0.0 systems controlled by player aliances.

I'm not sure what you mean by "supposed to run". You can run any sites you find. You might want to avoid the ones that are too tough for you, but you can try looking the sites first to get an idea of their difficulty.

 

[mizzou]

Quick question, why would you pay $19.99 for the latest iteration + 1 month free when you could just do the 14 day trial and then pay $14.95 for one month subscription?

 

[TheVrolok]

Quick question, why would you pay $19.99 for the latest iteration + 1 month free when you could just do the 14 day trial and then pay $14.95 for one month subscription?

I wouldn't. If I'm going to get a new account I usually wait for the Steam sales. Although I haven't seen one in awhile, they used to do sales for 4.99 + free month. Was awesome for alt accounts with buddy invites.

 

[Ross Ridge]

Quick question, why would you pay $19.99 for the latest iteration + 1 month free when you could just do the 14 day trial and then pay $14.95 for one month subscription?

Unless they've changed things you're not actually given the last option. You have to pay $5 to activate the account and then $15 for the first 30 days.

You can also activate the account and get 30 days with a PLEX, you don't have to pay the $5 activation fee.

 

[Drawmonster]

Really wish I hadn't fallen out of love with this game. I've got a really nice character that I've had since beta. Ton's of nice alts. Around 30bil in isk and ships. But I just don't have any fun these days. I haven't played in a couple months, and can't find a reason to resub..

0.0 is too much of a time sync, as is missioning. And my favorite activity used to be roaming around solo and killing people. But Eve has really moved away from any solo PVP. It's definitely more of a gang game now, and that's mostly what you run into these days. I tried Empire Wars, but it's BORING. Any corps I've been in lately have been pretty lame. No FC's, or people who wouldn't listen. Lot's of big egos. If we could get a small gang together, we'd either run into a bigger gang, or not find any targets.

Are there any Anandtech corps or anything?

 

[Maligx]

Hey guys, I remember playing in EVE beta lol but never touched it since then. I'm downloading the client now to try out the trial. There a good total newb guide to the game any where?

 

[ichy]

0.0 is too much of a time sync, as is missioning. And my favorite activity used to be roaming around solo and killing people. But Eve has really moved away from any solo PVP. It's definitely more of a gang game now, and that's mostly what you run into these days.

Solo PvP is still quite viable in a lot of low-sec regions, especially if you have an alt to probe people down. Some people do it entirely solo and just use the d-scanner to find ratters in belts, but I lack the patience for that and prefer taking a second character with a scan ship along.

 

[Red Storm]

Solo PvP is still quite viable in a lot of low-sec regions, especially if you have an alt to probe people down. Some people do it entirely solo and just use the d-scanner to find ratters in belts, but I lack the patience for that and prefer taking a second character with a scan ship along.

It's not really solo if you're using an alt to make it easier, which is what I think Drawmonster meant. you can't blame the blobs though, they're just fighting the "smart" way.

 

[hrbngr2]

Think of the 2nd account w/the dedicated, cloaky scanner more of a time saver, since you need to make an informed decision about viable PvP targets--much safer to do in your scanner ship, right?

 

[Fallen Kell]

Think of the 2nd account w/the dedicated, cloaky scanner more of a time saver, since you need to make an informed decision about viable PvP targets--much safer to do in your scanner ship, right?

Not really. If you are solo'ing, you should know already what ships you can kill in your ship and what ones you can't kill. I doesn't matter what gear they have equipped on their ship to be honest, as certain ships simply trump other ones. Kind of like how you would never fight a ship that has drones when you are in a stealth bomber....

 

[hrbngr2]

FallenK,
I agree with your point, but I was also considering your 2nd acct/recon char as being able to verify the surrounding systems safely, checking local, looking for defending POSes to avoid, cloaking near the entry gate to determine what people are flying when they enter the system, etc.

Maligx,
do the training missions, especially the scanning missions. If you already have friends you can get in their corp and they will train you up. If not, I recommend to train a caldari w/shields and missiles, and get yourself into a Drake as soon as possible, working your way into a Raven eventually--missioning in Amarr space would be preferred b/c the Guristas jam like crazy. I would get +3 implants to increase the pace of your learning--, and if you need cash and are not averse to spending a little real money, a plex or two will help the process.

There is a lot of good advice in this thread, btw, consider reading the whole thing if you have the time, as space in Eve is cold, dark and unforgiving place, so it's worth it to do some research.

I'm mostly into the PVE/missioning/hi-sec side of the game vs some posters here that are more into PvP, but to be honest, this group of seems to be mostly inactive at this time. I missed the curve, and have only been playing since March, but I don't have a lot of time to play due to work/etc.

download and read this entirely:
http://www.isktheguide.com/

ship builds:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/

mission guide: (if you go this route)
http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=missionreports --this is critical, read the reports, I lost a Paladin b/c i got lazy on L4 "Attack of the Drones" and started shooting everything...

mission info:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Missions ( there is a ton of good info on this site, just search it w/google )

http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/28/eve-evolved-mission-running-the-basics/
http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/07/12/eve-evolved-mission-running-top-five-tips/
http://massively.joystiq.com/editor/brendan-drain (he has written a ton of good stuff on how to play the game)

g/l

 

[Fallen Kell]

Also EVE Mon:
http://evemon.battleclinic.com/

And EFT:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadid=548883

 

[KaOTiK]

I'm falling into my I don't feel like playing mood again that I go through once or twice a year. Incarana was such fail for me and I really needed it to pull me back in before this feeling came around. Looks like I'll be taking a break and just keep my characters training since they all have a year paid for through plex. Anyone know of any reliable to sell isk by chance? I have a nice chunk I'd like to unload that really does me no good lol.

 

[Fallen Kell]

You mean isk for cash? Not really. Just about every isk transfer is flagged for review now. And if the account it goes into then transfers it to someone else and that someone else then transfers it to yet another, it just raises all kinds of flags and gets account bans/warnings on everyone involved.

 

[Red Storm]

I once contemplated selling my ISK for cash via PLEX. The plan was to buy PLEX with surplus ISK, and then come to an arrangement out of game with potential buyers, and then I drop off the PLEX at an undisclosed location for the buyer to pick up. Never did actually do it, and I'm not sure if that method would be any harder for CCP to trace/suspect.

 

[KaOTiK]

Yeah, I want to get rid of around 20b isk that is just extra even after putting off a ton for the future. I thought about buying PLEX's and selling them on craigslist and meeting people at places with free wifi to do the transfer there with my laptop, but in the end I am to lazy to do that for as much as I have. Rather just get like $10-12 per b and be done with it.