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Oct 25, 2006
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PI is a bitch. I'm trying to figure it out.

Currently have 1 Command center outputting like 20 blocks of toxic metals a cycle.

Apparently I need to get reactive metals, so need to figure that out to combine with toxic metals to react into construction blocks, which are T2 components, im probably going to sell at that point.
And as it turns out, the market for that is pretty crap, I'm going to have to go with higher level production

It's time to make a ridiculously awesome spreadsheet
 
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ichy

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Oct 5, 2006
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PI is a bitch. I'm trying to figure it out.

Currently have 1 Command center outputting like 20 blocks of toxic metals a cycle.

Apparently I need to get reactive metals, so need to figure that out to combine with toxic metals to react into construction blocks, which are T2 components, im probably going to sell at that point.
And as it turns out, the market for that is pretty crap, I'm going to have to go with higher level production

It's time to make a ridiculously awesome spreadsheet

To make serious money in PI you're going to have to have several planets up and running at once. My advice is to survey all the planets in your system, figure out which ones have which resources and then check prices for P2 and P3 materials in Jita. Make the most expensive stuff that you can produce in large quantities. Be prepared to haul things between planets.
 
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To make serious money in PI you're going to have to have several planets up and running at once. My advice is to survey all the planets in your system, figure out which ones have which resources and then check prices for P2 and P3 materials in Jita. Make the most expensive stuff that you can produce in large quantities. Be prepared to haul things between planets.

Yeah, I know, I'm going to start with 5 planets first by getting that command center skill to 4. I may try for 5, but considering the 3/8 planets are barren, I think I'll be fine with 4.

Currently in the process of making a spreadsheet with the planets, available materials. I'm going to attempt to get a dump of Jita prices and then link all the materials with respective t2-t3 prodcuts with unit and price per unit.

Hopefully with that I know what I can profit on with the planets on hand. I'm doing this in a WH so I expect tidy profit, though I may have wasted about 1.5 mil dicking around to see how to set up infrastructure. The toxic metals I'm making are pretty useless by themselves sadly, so need to fix that.

Of course, people in my WH make about 1.5 billion a day, so pocket change.
 
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hrbngr2

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NikV,
yes, i have someone 1-2 systems out from the Amarr home system/capital, I will contract the Raven to him, then to you. What name do you want me to contact? You can PM me if needed. I should be online this week as my buddy got my other computer working so now I can L4 mission w/multiple toons again. I should have an alt in Jita, will take the Raven hull price there as my basis. Let me know if you are still interested.
 
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I may have to wait on that, currently in WH space cutting a bloody swath through random alliances.

Spent yesterday locking down a Test Alliance system. What the hell is with these incompetent bastards. Is it normal to fly around with no mods at all in 00 of all palces? Completely empty ferox, completely empty badger, completely empty noctics. Not even a MWD to burn to gates.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12608346

I'm assuming Dreddit is some Reddit corporation. My god, they suck at this game. We all only died because of the half dozen gate camps that punctured the 23 jumps back to our home WH through test alliance and Goonswarm space.
 
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ichy

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I guess we have differing definitions of chump change. Oh well, I was happy for the drop. Funny thing is the guy's ship was just sitting in front of a gate. He must have gone AFK because he didn't even shoot back.
 

Michael

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He probably thought he was cloaked but wasn't or Autopiloted into low sec and went afk and didn't realize that he was not in high sec anymore.

I routinely used faction/navy disrupters on my Arazu and Lachesis. Their bonuses makes the faction bonus much better.

Michael
 

ichy

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Some people live in different isk budget worlds than I do. Nice of him to drop something that'll pay for five PvP fitted Drakes though
 

MBentz

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I'm thinking about getting back into this game, but I really need to figure out how to make ISK.
 

JSt0rm

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Sep 5, 2000
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I'm thinking about getting back into this game, but I really need to figure out how to make ISK.

dont forget about data cores. It was a bitch grinding them up I did it over a year ago and its totally passive now. I just need to go grab them every once and a while. Last haul of them was 1 billion isk. Not bad for doing nothing.

Also pi is good semi passive isk so is running a corp.
 

TheVrolok

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If you guys haven't voted, there's still plenty of time. I'd sure appreciate any votes you guys could swing from your friends/corpies for Hans. He's actually gotten quite a bit of traction and it would be an absolutely incredible win if he would be elected.

Vote!

Friday, March 9, 2012
CSM7 - Mega Hans Versus Giant Mittani

The CSM elections have hit their stride. 2012 marks the year that the election meta-game became fully integrated with the game itself.

If CCP had considered doing away with the CSM prior to 2012, that seems to no longer be an option. To remove the CSM now would be to remove a major component of EVE Online itself. It's fully meshed with the community as a whole. The increased participation and interest among the general playerbase speaks to this fully and completely.

So far, 10000 more accounts have voted in CSM7 than they did in CSM6. The number of accounts in EVE Online is roughly equivalent to what it was last year. The players are feeling more invested, more protective of their game. The playerbase has recognized the importance of these elections -- the CSM is the voice of the playerbase, the direct line of communication into CCP.

I've already written my CSM7 predictions. I've already written a short analysis. This post, I amend slightly the former, and add to the latter.

So where are these extra 10000 votes coming from. Ripard Teg, in a recent bit of CSM7 analysis of his own, figures that since the surge in interest from CSM5 to CSM6 came from nullsec voting blocs, that the surge from CSM6 to CSM7 is coming from nullsec voting blocs as well.

I could not disagree more.

First of all, the number of accounts in EVE Online has slightly decreased since last year (due to the Summer of Rage.) The distribution of the playerbase across New Eden hasn't changed. If anything, there are fewer large blocs. Whereas Goonswarm and Test Alliance remain as powerful as ever, the Russian bloc has fractured three ways in recent months. Goonswarm and Test don't have 10000 extra votes.

I contend that the sudden surge in voting is coming directly from non-bloc voters, especially those in Empire space. There's always been a level of malaise and apathy with Empire players, voting patterns through the previous six CSMs spell this out well enough. The difference this year is that for the last year they've been told to shut the hell up, if they don't want to get out, vote a candidate of their own, they should stop their bitching and moaning about nullsec's control of the CSM.

I think they took that suggestion to heart.

I think the most popular Empire candidate this election season is far and away Hans Jagerblitzen. He's captured the most interest from all the commentators. He's all over the forums, moreso than any other candidate (except Mittens) and the vast majority of it is positive. Hans has gone viral.

How does that affect The Mittani? Who has between 5000 and 6000 votes all locked up? The Mittani garnered 5365 votes for CSM6. At most, I can see him gaining another 10% this election. The Mittani's possible vote count has a cap. You can count Goonswarm in his camp, and then some much smaller proportion of votes from outside that bloc. That's it. The sky is not the limit for Mittens.

Hans, on the other hand. He can easily get 3500 to 4000 votes alone from the faction warfare camp. This is where I believe a large proportion of the new voting interest is coming from. The story does not end there, though. Hans is also trending very strongly across Empire space. He's popular with lowsec pirates. He's popular with highsec carebears. Empire players trust his vision of the game, that it's about balance, not favouring any one playstyle over another. So take Hans' faction warfare base and then add in his support across Empire and you have a candidate that could challenge The Mittani for the CSM chair.

I now believe that Hans Jagerblitzen will finish, at the minimum, a very strong second in the CSM7 election race.

What might happen if Hans did win the CSM chair? Would The Mittani pack up and resign? He's stated clearly enough that its the chair or nothing. He's stated that he wants a clear mandate for CSM7. What happens if Hans gets that mandate instead? How will The Mittani react? Ego is a large proportion of what drives Mittens.

Ego is not driving Hans campaign. Quite the opposite. He's been quite humble, all told. People believe in him because they believe he runs for the CSM not for himself but for the game. Which is why, I believe, if Hans did win the chair, he'd attempt to make concessions to The Mittani. Either offering him co-chair, or offering him the chair outright. I don't think being the CSM chairman is at all important to Hans, certainly not moreso than simply representing the people that voted for him and representing the best interests of the game.

Do I think Hans will win the chair? No. I think he'll come a strong second: The Mittani, Hans Jagerblitzen, Two step, Seleene, Dovinian, UAxDeath and Elise Randolph. But, I do not think that Hans winning the chair is a longshot. Either way, we have 11 more days of a most excellent race to watch and commentate on.

CSM elections. Does the EVE Online meta-game get any better than this?
 

hrbngr2

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JSt0rm,
any recommendations on which datacores to make? I have a link somewhere that lists the avg price of the datacores, but I am not sure how often I should check to see if I should change the datacores I am researching. I am probably limited by what my high rep company agents can research, but I sometimes wonder if I am being a little too passive...
 

Coldkilla

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Thinking about coming back. Haven't played since the introduction to PLEXs (only got about 10m SP). If anyone works a lot with PLEXs and has a few, shoot me a PM!
 
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