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Orcas are 6.5 B now?


No, 700 million.

The orca contained several billion in sleeper loot, a buzzard, a loki, a tengu, and a proteus, all pimped out and faction fitted. He also had a faction MWD.

Also contained a myriad of of t2 mods, normal mods, ammo and suck.

This was all kept in the ship maintenance bay so it does not show up on the killboard, however the ingame killmail took into account all of the ships making the total to be 6.5 billion isk in losses.
 
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Yuriman

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Coming back to EVE after a 2 year break. It's a bit strange, lots seems to have changed but it still feels like the same game.

I sold my old account and am 12 days into my 21 day trial, looks like I'll have frigate 5 and T2 guns by the time my trial ends.
 

Red Storm

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No, 700 million.

The orca contained several billion in sleeper loot, a buzzard, a loki, a tengu, and a proteus, all pimped out and faction fitted. He also had a faction MWD.

Also contained a myriad of of t2 mods, normal mods, ammo and suck.

This was all kept in the ship maintenance bay so it does not show up on the killboard, however the ingame killmail took into account all of the ships making the total to be 6.5 billion isk in losses.

I thought you couldn't see what's in that bay? Or am I thinking of the other one?
 

Fallen Kell

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You can't see it from scans and none of it will drop, but I guess the killmails have it. Would be nice if you posted a link to the killmail. If the in-game killmail showed the stuff, it might simply be that places like battleclinic do not process the information, but you can always go look at the actual killmail in question (at least on battleclinic I believe).
 

HybridSquirrel

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Coming back to EVE after a 2 year break. It's a bit strange, lots seems to have changed but it still feels like the same game.

I sold my old account and am 12 days into my 21 day trial, looks like I'll have frigate 5 and T2 guns by the time my trial ends.

they really shortened down training times to help engage people more, I think you start off with more skill points from the get go as well. at least it seems that way.
 

Yuriman

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they really shortened down training times to help engage people more, I think you start off with more skill points from the get go as well. at least it seems that way.

Na you still only start with ~50,000sp and they did away with the double skill training speed that they had for a while after they removed learning skills. Last time I started though, I didn't put as much stock into maxing out a ship class and instead wanted to be able to fly everything (poorly) ASAP. I hadn't thought about how quickly I could max the frigate class.
 
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Na you still only start with ~50,000sp and they did away with the double skill training speed that they had for a while after they removed learning skills. Last time I started though, I didn't put as much stock into maxing out a ship class and instead wanted to be able to fly everything (poorly) ASAP. I hadn't thought about how quickly I could max the frigate class.

Frigate Class Ships Include

Standard Frigates
Assault Frigates
Interceptors
Covert Ops
Electronic Attack Ships


You will not be maxing out the frigate class in a while.
 

HybridSquirrel

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Frigate Class Ships Include

Standard Frigates
Assault Frigates
Interceptors
Covert Ops
Electronic Attack Ships


You will not be maxing out the frigate class in a while.

I think he means Frigate 5, which used to take 8 days without implants/skills/ect it now take about 6 days starting off from scratch. They definitely did something to make skills train faster, like upping the sp/ hour scaling on attributes a little.

hell BS 5 took me 38 days to train -_- but that was back when you could cancel your account and have skills train still
 

TheVrolok

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I think he means Frigate 5, which used to take 8 days without implants/skills/ect it now take about 6 days starting off from scratch. They definitely did something to make skills train faster, like upping the sp/ hour scaling on attributes a little.

hell BS 5 took me 38 days to train -_- but that was back when you could cancel your account and have skills train still

I miss ghost training so much.
 

Llwellyn

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I think he means Frigate 5, which used to take 8 days without implants/skills/ect it now take about 6 days starting off from scratch. They definitely did something to make skills train faster, like upping the sp/ hour scaling on attributes a little.

hell BS 5 took me 38 days to train -_- but that was back when you could cancel your account and have skills train still

They removed the learning skills and built them in, meaning a new capsuleer from scratch is training right off the bat like he trained all 11 learning skills to 5 before he was ever "born".

When they did that, they took away the 2X bonus that newbies got for the first 21 days because it would have been too advantageous to get on top of the adjustments.

You still want attribute implants in too, but the learning skill removal definitely helps new capsuleers train stuff faster.
 

Fallen Kell

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Yeah, I was going to say that. All you need to do now is train cybernetics to 4 and away you go (you can go for 5, but you are not going to have the isk even for standard implants as a brand new player unless you buy a GTC and sell the plex).
 

HybridSquirrel

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They removed the learning skills and built them in, meaning a new capsuleer from scratch is training right off the bat like he trained all 11 learning skills to 5 before he was ever "born".

When they did that, they took away the 2X bonus that newbies got for the first 21 days because it would have been too advantageous to get on top of the adjustments.

You still want attribute implants in too, but the learning skill removal definitely helps new capsuleers train stuff faster.

That was the point I was trying to make. Its easier for new players to advance quicker rather than spending months training learning up before anything.
 
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Martimus

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I don't play EVE anymore...

I don't play EVE anymore...

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Lol. I don't either, yet I keep my accounts in good standing and training. Haven't played more than an hour or two in a month in more than a year, but I still enjoy hearing the stories and giving advice. I wouldn't mind playing again, but for some reason I don't.
 

KaOTiK

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Yeah, I haven't played since Incarna and all that bullshit. All my accounts are active and training though since I bought 2 years worth of plex's for each of my accounts (good thing I did too when I see the new plex prices wow)
 

HybridSquirrel

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FUCK. I warped into a mission and lost my ~1b fit Tengu because my game client crashed. That is such horse shit I fucking hate how the game handles crashing clients.
 

ichy

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Lol. I don't either, yet I keep my accounts in good standing and training. Haven't played more than an hour or two in a month in more than a year, but I still enjoy hearing the stories and giving advice. I wouldn't mind playing again, but for some reason I don't.

For me it's the time commitment. Sitting down and playing EVE (and actually doing more than fiddling with PI) takes a decent sized block of time. Part of the reason I've liked playing through the old Fallout games recently is that I can kill 10 or 15 minutes while waiting for someone and then just save and leave.
 

TheVrolok

Lifer
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Lol. I don't either, yet I keep my accounts in good standing and training. Haven't played more than an hour or two in a month in more than a year, but I still enjoy hearing the stories and giving advice. I wouldn't mind playing again, but for some reason I don't.

This exactly. I just can't bring myself to actually quit quit. I mean, I gotta keep 'em training .. I could go back one day .. right?


For me it's the time commitment. Sitting down and playing EVE (and actually doing more than fiddling with PI) takes a decent sized block of time. Part of the reason I've liked playing through the old Fallout games recently is that I can kill 10 or 15 minutes while waiting for someone and then just save and leave.

Same here. EVE just takes time. There's always downtime before/after PvP .. sometimes a lot of it depending on what type of engagement you want and there's no guarantee you'll even get an engagement.
 

HybridSquirrel

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*sigh* still haven't heard back on my petition about my Tengu =[


guess i'll go suicide gank some t1 mining barges in a dessy...
 

Fallen Kell

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Things like ship petitions I have found typically take a few days because the in-game admins do not have access to the backend crash/connection data, and need to pass it on to the people who do.
 
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