Extreme-ish Cooling Suggestions?

[Lukozer]

My recent overclocking dabbling has resulted in me making 2 discoveries.... Firstly, my reported temps through uGuru are currently correct and my initial temps were the incorrect readings... Secondly, i've rediscovered the will to overclock. The problem is that, as you can imagine, overclocking an FX-55 results in a lot of heat, far more than a mere stock HSF can deal with, as i found out once i hit 2808mhz. I'm looking for an alternative to water (since i still don't feel safe going with the water cooling route) and something affordable, or to put it another way, not the Asetek Vapochill setups, much as i would like one...

Anyone know of anything that would fit the bill? Or even if such a thing exists??

 

[Nocturnal]

Thermalright XP-120 with a Sunon 3100RPM 120MM fan

 

[Lukozer]

A 3100rpm 120mm fan sounds like my kind of thing... I should have mentioned though that i'm looking for something other than air-cooling, which is why i'm not even sure there is anything that fits the bill for what i'm after, so maybe extreme air cooling will be my best bet....

 

[theMan]

look for an alternative to the vapochill ls. find something cheaper. otherwise go with the xp-120 with the fastest fan, and with the most flow. also, get really good case cooling/a better case.

 

[IntegraGSR]

xp-120 with one of these (http://sidewindercomputers.com/de12tfexhisp.html) --- 220.01 CFM @ 4600 RPM

 

[The Boston Dangler]

I must caution you, the 120mm Sunon is a monster. I have one, thinking "108 cfm sounds like my kind of thing" WRONG! I cannot live with this thing un-muffled. We're talking almost 70dB at full throttle. Life is much better with a fan controller, but it's still loud at 6.5VDC.

 

[lestat0521]

Well if you would like to go cheap, believe it or not water is very easy to do.
Buy a pump that has a inlet and outlet, basically pulls water through it, you can find one at most places that sell fish tanks, this costs about 20-30 depending on how much GPH you want it cycling.
Then buy some tubing, 5 bucks will cover all that you will need.
Then get a cpu block, any where from 15-30.
Then you are set for life with massive cooling...quieter and cooler then fans,

Total price: $45 , heh thats cheaper then a xp-90 or 120 on newegg (-=

 

[NINaudio]

if you don't want the danger of water, there are several products that dabngerden offers as water replacements for a water cooling setup. They are non-conductive, so you can feel much safer with them.

 

[S Random]

... you confuse me there is no reason to overclock an FX unless you want performence to show off with, and to overclock it enough you need water or phase change...

 

[imported_Kensai]

There's no cost effective way to cool your proc other than air or water cooling. There's phase change cooling, you can buy kits that range from 600$ and up or you can make one yourself if you're an electrician.

 

[Lukozer]

This thing would fit the bill perfectly, if it's actually out yet (which i doubt)... Vapochill Micro Unit...

http://www.tomshardware.com/business/20....html#asetek_vapochill_for_40_30_euros

 

[NINaudio]

It's just a heatpipe based heatsink, nothing all that unusual about it really.

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: Lukozer
Looking for cost-effective alternatives to water cooling

* Install this
* Then run this down to it

Quiet, Cost Effective Cooling :thumbsup:

 

[jimbob200521]

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: Lukozer
Looking for cost-effective alternatives to water cooling

* Install this
* Then run this down to it

Quiet, Cost Effective Cooling :thumbsup:

i actually wouldnt recommend the zalman for overclocking. ive had one, and although it was cooler than the stock hsf, it wasnt a HUGE improvement, like youll probably need with the fx-55. although, i must admit that i never had the second item going to my cpu, so that may make a bigger temp diff than i realize

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: jimbob200521
i must admit that i never had the second item going to my cpu, so that may make a bigger temp diff than i realize

It brings fresh/cool air directly into the HS/fan. I'd say a well positioned duct and good HS would give WC a run for it's money.
After all, WC can never bring the CPU temp below ambient. Room temperature is the very best non-chilled WCing can hope to do.

 

[Zepper]

"Air Conditioned" Case Review

.bh.

 

[Blain]

That thing uses a peltier. But the review said nothing about condensation. :shocked:

 

[jimbob200521]

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: jimbob200521
i must admit that i never had the second item going to my cpu, so that may make a bigger temp diff than i realize

It brings fresh/cool air directly into the HS/fan. I'd say a well positioned duct and good HS would give WC a run for it's money.
After all, WC can never bring the CPU temp below ambient. Room temperature is the very best non-chilled WCing can hope to do.

ive never heard of a hsf bringing cpus near ambient room temp before.

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: jimbob200521

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: jimbob200521
i must admit that i never had the second item going to my cpu, so that may make a bigger temp diff than i realize

It brings fresh/cool air directly into the HS/fan. I'd say a well positioned duct and good HS would give WC a run for it's money.
After all, WC can never bring the CPU temp below ambient. Room temperature is the very best non-chilled WCing can hope to do.

ive never heard of a hsf bringing cpus near ambient room temp before.

Is that what I said? :roll:

 

[jimbob200521]

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: jimbob200521

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: jimbob200521
i must admit that i never had the second item going to my cpu, so that may make a bigger temp diff than i realize

It brings fresh/cool air directly into the HS/fan. I'd say a well positioned duct and good HS would give WC a run for it's money.
After all, WC can never bring the CPU temp below ambient. Room temperature is the very best non-chilled WCing can hope to do.

ive never heard of a hsf bringing cpus near ambient room temp before.

Is that what I said? :roll:

not exactly, but from what i gathered, it was implied. you said that the cooling solution you suggested would give water cooling a run for its money, then you stated that water cooling can only achieve ambient room temps. so i put two and two together, and voila! however, in retrospect, we both could have worded our statements better.

 

[kleinwl]

If you wish to avoid water alltogether, your only option is air cooling. However, depending on how much time/effort you wish to put into this you can do much better than just slapping a couple of fans into you machine.

1st) Make sure that you have a clean case, minimize cable size, and optimize location for airflow. Obviously, as the air has to flow around all the junk in your box the effectiveness of the fan's will decrease.

2nd) Optimize case fan layout with the location of the case (or even relocate the case for better air flow). Shoving the case under your desk and just blowing the hot air into a wall will significantly increase case temps even if you have a 2000CFM fan. If it has to be in a tight spot, consider a full size fan (house fan) to blow the hot air away.

3rd) Plan air flow inside your case. Have the intake air run across your most sensitive components first with an easy exit. Make sure that the hot air does not recirculate in your system (due to cold air being exausted before running across your cpu). Shields and airboxes are helpful in directing the flow.

4th) Use heatpipes and heat sinks to relocate your heat sources. There is no reason that your heatpipe can not run outside of the box, where it can be more easily cooled without raising your case temp. It makes alot of sense to insulate your heatpipe if you plan on doing this.

5th) Relocate the PSU outside of your case. (or just buy a more efficent one). An 80% effective 500W PSU will vent 100W of heat at full load. That's alot of heat trapped in your case.

6th) Water cool the air going into your case. I'm not suggesting a waterfall in front of your fans.... but there is no reason that you can not run a ice cold radiator in front of your case. The condensation will form on the radiator, rather than your motherboard. Of course this is extremely inefficent... and kind of a waste of energy... but what the heck.

 

[0roo0roo]

well calculate the cost of extra cooling compared to cost of just purchasing a faster chip in the first place. and in the end you are still spending a gob of money. if you can overclock to the limit of air cooling instead, the money remains in your pocket.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

all you need to do is to immatriculate at the Purdue University and grab a prototype of there "new" Ion-lightning-cooler - they announced the thing three years ago, they must have tons of prototypes - and since u already treated ur cpu with water why not try a nano weatherstorm next?
http://www.purdue.edu/UNS/html4ever/2004/040322.Garimella.nanolight.html
http://widget.ecn.purdue.edu/~CTRC/rese...%20with%20Ion-Driven%20Air%20Flow.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/?3106

 

[musgrattios]

Your budget should decide the method of cooling. Water is sooo worth it, and stabilizes temps in overclocking. But there are good air stuffs too, though none as efficient as a mediocre water setup.