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holdencommodore

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I can't stand people smoking... especially outside shopping centres etc...

The thing that most people don't know is that cigarette smoke contains radioactive isotopes such as radium-226, polonium-210 and lead-210. When the smoker inhales cigarette smoke into the lungs, the radioactive particles are deposited. This is thought to be one of the reasons that smokers have a high incidence of lung cancer.

Someone who smokes one-and-a half packets of cigarettes a day will recieve a dose of approximately 90 mSv (milli sieverts) each year due to the radiation he or she inhales. This is almost seven times the maximum annual dose recieved by Australian uranium miners!

I got this information from a physics textbook.

Cheers
 

Maggotry

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Well, I'm a former smoker. I smoked for about 10 years. I've not smoked for about 8 years. I'm probably one of the few non-smokers that would "some-what" side with the smokers. Smokers are treated like lower-class citizens while non-smokers generally think holier-than-thou thoughts about themselves because they don't smoke...as if that makes you a better person. However, I no longer want to be exposed to cigarette smoke. That means, if you're in my car, or at my house, you don't smoke. Don't like it, then go away. If I'm in public, I have little control over the environment. Walking through a smoker's puff on my way into a store is not going to kill me. Do I like it? No. Is it worth complaining about and passing anti-smoking laws knowing that it isn't going to hurt me? No. There are certain things you have to deal with when outside of a domain you control. Smokers, speeders, thugs, etc. When you go to a restraunt, ask to be seated away from the smoking section...that's what I do. I don't tell the restraunt to make all the smokers leave. Worried about getting robbed? Carry a weapon. That's what I do. And, most importantly, always laugh at your smoker friends when they lay down that $3 a day for a pack. $100 a month habit. Yikes.
 

Valinos

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This is hilarious. Most of you non-smokers are so IGNORANT! Actually, I haven't read a single-post from a non-smoker that has been worth the bytes it takes up on the webserver. Do some Google searches for the REAL evidence. Read all about how little damage smoking really causes. It may surprise you to know that the vast majority of smokers will not end up dying in a hospital coughing up yellow mucus or walking around with oxygen tanks. This is misinformation and is liberally spread around by the government, media, and especially the non-smoking organizations. The bullsh!t you see in those ads saying that feces and radioactive isotopes are in tobacco are misleading. You have just as many trace elements of harmful substances in anything you use or eat. Maybe more. Do some research on what they pump into the livestock you eat.

Some of you people need an education before you post. Maybe AT should force all posters to provide proof that they've graduated high school.


 

smp

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Being cool? I don't think so; smoking is seen by many people as a nasty disgusting habit. Even kids know it's impacts, physical and social.


Hey man! I'm cool. I'm sure I single handedly inspired a lot of younger people to start smoking. I mean, after hanging out with me for any amount of time they just want to be me .. so naturally, they take up my filthy habits.
You can't be a rebel without cigarettes.
Maybe I've been brainwashed by hollywood machismo .. I don't know.
 

I can't stand it. Who is their right mind would breathe a burnt material into their body on a daily (sometimes hourly) basis on purpose?

Apparently your girlfriend. I smoke to look cool personally.
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: Valinos
This is hilarious. Most of you non-smokers are so IGNORANT! Actually, I haven't read a single-post from a non-smoker that has been worth the bytes it takes up on the webserver. Do some Google searches for the REAL evidence. Read all about how little damage smoking really causes. It may surprise you to know that the vast majority of smokers will not end up dying in a hospital coughing up yellow mucus or walking around with oxygen tanks. This is misinformation and is liberally spread around by the government, media, and especially the non-smoking organizations. The bullsh!t you see in those ads saying that feces and radioactive isotopes are in tobacco are misleading. You have just as many trace elements of harmful substances in anything you use or eat. Maybe more. Do some research on what they pump into the livestock you eat.

Some of you people need an education before you post. Maybe AT should force all posters to provide proof that they've graduated high school.
LOL! You think smoking ISN'T dangerous? Wait, you're right. The government is spreading lies! All those birth defects and deaths are caused by something else, it's obviously not the cigarettes.
 

outriding

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Originally posted by: Valinos
This is hilarious. Most of you non-smokers are so IGNORANT! Actually, I haven't read a single-post from a non-smoker that has been worth the bytes it takes up on the webserver. Do some Google searches for the REAL evidence. Read all about how little damage smoking really causes. It may surprise you to know that the vast majority of smokers will not end up dying in a hospital coughing up yellow mucus or walking around with oxygen tanks. This is misinformation and is liberally spread around by the government, media, and especially the non-smoking organizations. The bullsh!t you see in those ads saying that feces and radioactive isotopes are in tobacco are misleading. You have just as many trace elements of harmful substances in anything you use or eat. Maybe more. Do some research on what they pump into the livestock you eat.

Some of you people need an education before you post. Maybe AT should force all posters to provide proof that they've graduated high school.


Hey look everybody it an Phillip Morris employee.

You must also must take into consideration that some poeple might have some respetory (sp?) problems. Like me i almosted died from bronchitias (sp?) and i have alergies

if i get next to anything that is not fresh air ( for more than an hour or two ) i have a hard time to breathe. So i am glad there are starting to get bans on smokers.
 

Azraele

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Originally posted by: Valinos
This is hilarious. Most of you non-smokers are so IGNORANT! Actually, I haven't read a single-post from a non-smoker that has been worth the bytes it takes up on the webserver. Do some Google searches for the REAL evidence. Read all about how little damage smoking really causes. It may surprise you to know that the vast majority of smokers will not end up dying in a hospital coughing up yellow mucus or walking around with oxygen tanks. This is misinformation and is liberally spread around by the government, media, and especially the non-smoking organizations. The bullsh!t you see in those ads saying that feces and radioactive isotopes are in tobacco are misleading. You have just as many trace elements of harmful substances in anything you use or eat. Maybe more. Do some research on what they pump into the livestock you eat.

Some of you people need an education before you post. Maybe AT should force all posters to provide proof that they've graduated high school.

Ask the woman downstairs on her death bed why she's dying. My grandfather too, although he's already gone. Common sense dictates that humans weren't meant to breathe smoke. Sure the colors and preservatives they put in foods is bad, but that doesn't mean smoking isn't bad for you.
 

cremator

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I love it...smokers trying to make a come back by mentioning speeding and such, when the fact is, smokers speed too...so thats twice the risk of my life....and mac donalds is a sh1tty place to eat....like their chicken nuggets..mmm pumped fat into a nugget....anyways, you cant be perfect but you can damn well do alot of things to make your self feel better and look better.....for example, I don't drink carbonated beverages...i drink water, and natural juices...so im still wondering why you point out the bad things of non smokers...smoking is a stupid thing to do period...would you eat sh1t instead of "real food" ? well if not then its a pretty equal equilivent....intaking waste material...mmmmm
 

KEV1N

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Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Where I work, they have lounges for smokers. I went into one last week. The whole room was covered with a yellow-brown film and even though it had a air filtration system it smelled like a bottle of nicotine. What a terrible place to spend even 3 minutes in.

OOOOOH they have nicotine in bottles now?!?!?

 

Valinos

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Jun 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: Azraele
Originally posted by: Valinos
This is hilarious. Most of you non-smokers are so IGNORANT! Actually, I haven't read a single-post from a non-smoker that has been worth the bytes it takes up on the webserver. Do some Google searches for the REAL evidence. Read all about how little damage smoking really causes. It may surprise you to know that the vast majority of smokers will not end up dying in a hospital coughing up yellow mucus or walking around with oxygen tanks. This is misinformation and is liberally spread around by the government, media, and especially the non-smoking organizations. The bullsh!t you see in those ads saying that feces and radioactive isotopes are in tobacco are misleading. You have just as many trace elements of harmful substances in anything you use or eat. Maybe more. Do some research on what they pump into the livestock you eat.

Some of you people need an education before you post. Maybe AT should force all posters to provide proof that they've graduated high school.

Ask the woman downstairs on her death bed why she's dying. My grandfather too, although he's already gone. Common sense dictates that humans weren't meant to breathe smoke. Sure the colors and preservatives they put in foods is bad, but that doesn't mean smoking isn't bad for you.


I never said smoking isn't bad for you. It just isn't as bad as the meda wants you to think. Sure, you have a higher chance for respatory problems and developing lung and throat cancer, but more than likely you won't have any problems if you smoke moderately. I should have made it clear in my post that I'm talking about moderate smoking. Personally, I smoke about a pack every 3-4 days. That's approx. 5-7 cigs a day. Even at that, the average smoker in the U.S. only has an 8% chance of developing lung cancer compared to a 1% chance of a non-smoker. I don't know how many cigarettes the "average" smoker smokes, but that'd be interesting to know.

I don't work for Phillip Morris, and I don't think smoking is good for you by any means. However, smoking (moderately) is not as bad as you are lead to believe. I totally respect non-smokers for not wanting to smoke and put themselves at any greater risk of sickness, but the disposition many of the non-smokers on this board have is just plain hypocritical and IGNORANT. I, too, try to be a considerate smoker, but I don't go out of my way to make sure people don't walk through my smoke. Walking past a puff of smoke in the outdoors will not make your clothes smell, nor will it cause you to develop respatory problems. Anyone who states it will is exagerating to the point of hilarity. The only instance I can think of breathing any substantial amount of second hand smoke would be at a club or a concert, even then second-hand smoke still doesn't contain the same amount of carcinogens that the smoker himself inhales. Second-hand smoke is overdone.

To me, it is worth it to smoke. We all make choices, and where I may have my own disadvantages I have advantages that many of you don't. We all hurt ourselves and our environment in different ways. Drinking alcohol, eating Big Macs, driving SUVs, working for a chemical plant, and even buying footware from Nike all have effects that cause harm to the world, to other people, or to yourself. You may not smoke, but I'm sure there is something I could point out if I knew you well enough, that was just as "bad" or worse. People need to learn humility and how to tolerate others. This specifically applies to Americans, considering how diverse we are.

That's my spiel. Take it for what you want, but don't you ever get in my face outside when I light up. I will kick you in the groin with a steel-toed boot.
 

cremator

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actually your still not getting to the real point, you get hell for doing something that is very useless and makes no sense... in fact..i dont believe anyone wants to smoke...the nicotine programs it into your head that "you need a smoke now" so its kinda like mind control.... fvcking robots
 

cremator

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Originally posted by: Valinos
That's my spiel. Take it for what you want, but don't you ever get in my face outside when I light up. I will kick you in the groin with a steel-toed boot.

Expect a swift punch to the eye and then a lawsuit.
 

Armitage

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Feb 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: Mani
- that way darwin can root those out those who make the conscious decision to give themselves cancer - without affecting those that didn't make that decision.

Darwin isn't going to help us much with this one.
Smoking kills you to slowly, you've already done most of your reproducing by the time your lungs rot out.
Now if we could make them more toxic...

Or you can wean your weak asses off the smokes and live life like the rest of the world.

Actually, the rest of the world tends to smoke alot more then in the US in my experience.


 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Maggotry
Well, I'm a former smoker. I smoked for about 10 years. I've not smoked for about 8 years. I'm probably one of the few non-smokers that would "some-what" side with the smokers. Smokers are treated like lower-class citizens while non-smokers generally think holier-than-thou thoughts about themselves because they don't smoke...as if that makes you a better person. However, I no longer want to be exposed to cigarette smoke. That means, if you're in my car, or at my house, you don't smoke. Don't like it, then go away. If I'm in public, I have little control over the environment. Walking through a smoker's puff on my way into a store is not going to kill me. Do I like it? No. Is it worth complaining about and passing anti-smoking laws knowing that it isn't going to hurt me? No. There are certain things you have to deal with when outside of a domain you control.

"Walk thru a smoker's puff" ... hmm... on my way out to lunch today, practically all the entrances were surrounded by smokers... and I mean you have to walk thru their large circle to even exit the building. W H A T T H E F U ( K ?! Their inconsideration is what drives my anger. I bet if they made a sign saying all smokers must stand away from the doors, they'd whine about nonsmokers picking on them. Those are the people that I think I'm "better than". They wouldn't smoke around their own child would they? It's got nothing to do with any ignorance to smokers' rights/freedom. All we're asking for is consideration in the absence of a sensible law. What's with the "I DO WHATEVER THE FVCK I FEEL LIKE" attitude among some of you in this thread?
 

kh3443

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I smoke, and know exactly what you're talking about. But I always try to be considerate especially when little kids are around. I don't know why I started, I guess when I was young I didn't know what addiction was until it was too late. And I do think smoking is disguisting, just funny cuz I do it too. sigh*
 

Maverick

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this is America, everyone has the right to smoke...if you don't like it, then get the hell out
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: Shiva112
this is America, everyone has the right to smoke...if you don't like it, then get the hell out

If I sit in a beat up chevy with an exhaust that blows out harmful smoke in FRONT of your house... do you still feel comfortable? I would have every right to do it, being that it's public domain out there. Will you get the hell out of this country if you don't like it... all because of someone who would do that to you? Again, what's with the "I'LL DO WHATEVER THE FVCK I FEEL LIKE" attitude ? What happened to people with morals... or do they not teach that at home anymore?
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: Colt45
Originally posted by: Ladies Man
i smoke cus it feels good

just cus you don't like it doesn't mean you should make others suffer

bingo.

dont you dumbfvcks see this? you start with smoking, but sooner or later they start outlawing something you like.

once you make it easy for the govnt to take away right 'A' (smoking in this case), its also alot easier to take away right 'B'.
Demolition man
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: Shiva112
this is America, everyone has the right to smoke...if you don't like it, then get the hell out

Wrong, this is America where the vote of the majority of it's citizens(except for presidential elections ) should be heard and since more people would like there to be no smoking then that is American like it or not, but doing whatever you want is called chaos
 

Maverick

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A complete ban on smoking will not happen any time soon...too much of the world smokes regularly...have any of you smoker-haters ever been to Paris? Banning smoking would be like prohibition all over again. It would create a black market that would do far more damage than a few people that can't stand the smell.
 

Aceman

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Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: Shiva112
this is America, everyone has the right to smoke...if you don't like it, then get the hell out

If I sit in a beat up chevy with an exhaust that blows out harmful smoke in FRONT of your house... do you still feel comfortable? I would have every right to do it, being that it's public domain out there. Will you get the hell out of this country if you don't like it... all because of someone who would do that to you? Again, what's with the "I'LL DO WHATEVER THE FVCK I FEEL LIKE" attitude ? What happened to people with morals... or do they not teach that at home anymore?

I'd feel quite comfortable, after I called the cops on you for noise pollution, among other things, in which there are laws. Also, me having a cigarette in front of a building is a public area. You blowing exhaust into my PRIVATELY OWNED YARD is another issue.

Morals???? Now you're saying that smokers have no morals? F U! There's your morals!

Tell you what. Think about something you enjoy doing. Let's say you enjoy talking on the cell phone and there was research out that found that you on your cell phone could cause brain tumors in the person that sits next to you. So, they tell you that you can only use your cell phone outside and 5 feet from an entrance. How would you feel? How would you react if someone started complaining about the fact that everytime they walked into a building someone was on a cell phone that has a remote chance of giving you a brain tumor?

You'd be in the same position that smokers are now in, buddy!
 

RbSX

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Originally posted by: Phil21
I never smoked in my life.. But I'm seriously considering taking up the habit just to annoy little liberal wastes of skin as yourself. Should be fun to get in a few fistfights with little suburbanite kiddie who thinks he knows how the world should run. Why can't we just go back to the wild west pioneering era? I doubt anyone whined about something so trivial as cigarrette smoke back then. Yes, your 2 second walk through a group of smokers is trivial. Starting to hate this country for what it's becoming. Ugh. -Phil

Thank god I don't live near you do, or I'd shiet kick you in the balls so fecking hard you'd keel over and die. I can't control the right to live is inconsiderate smokers are smoking all around me and I'm inhaling the smoke. Say fer example I'm at a bus stop, its not like I can just leave!
 
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