Face it: Monogamy is unnatural

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OverVolt

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Thats what you can expect if you are polygamous GL OP.

Pretty sure thats also the "natural" reaction you get to your "natural" behavior. Natural is good right?
 
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SagaLore

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it's also unnatural to shit in a toilet and wipe your ass, but it's unsanitary to not do so. take your pick...

it's also unnatural to deep fry potatoes in a vat of hot oil and then salt them. wait, what was your point?
 

Via

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If you think intentionally limiting the exposure of your genetic material, the most precious thing you have, is a natural thing then there's nothing else to say.

It means you believe in a higher power. Nothing wrong with that.
 

randomrogue

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And the reverse is true -- if its so unnatural, why have people been monogamus for eaons of time, and are still down to this day?

It's seems that only whores say stuff like this while monogamus people think its as natural as breathing.

Lol.. Exposed! People want validation to whore out.

Hmmm.

Africa and Asia - Non-monogamous

Only the Christian part of the world practices monogamy. It really wasn't until a couple hundred years after Jesus that monogamy became standard issue. A few exception in ancient Israel but still...
 

Retro Rob

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Hmmm.

Africa and Asia - Non-monogamous

Only the Christian part of the world practices monogamy. It really wasn't until a couple hundred years after Jesus that monogamy became standard issue. A few exception in ancient Israel but still...

Monogamy is a wise and safe arrangement. No unwanted children by mistresses or "baby daddy's", and STDs are greatly reduced, if not totally eliminated in many cases.
 

irishScott

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Wait, we're going back to "natural"? Great. Because "naturally" in a non-monogomous world I'd have the impulse to kill any male who intruded upon my "territory" (cheated with one of my mates). That's perfectly natural, and beneficial to me. Ensures my genes are the ones that pass on. I could also rape as many women as I saw fit. All natural!

But I have a feeling the author of that retarded column wouldn't see it that way.


If you don't want monogamy, fine; but society evolved it for a reason. It's quite noticeable that the modern non-monogomous cultures are almost all stuck in the 3rd world.
 
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StrangerGuy

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Wait, we're going back to "natural"? Great. Because "naturally" in a non-monogomous world I'd have the impulse to kill any male who intruded upon my "territory" (cheated with one of my mates). That's perfectly natural, and beneficial to me. Ensures my genes are the ones that pass on.

But I have a feeling the author of that retarded column wouldn't see it that way.


If you don't want monogamy, fine; but society evolved it for a reason. It's quite noticeable that the modern non-monogomous cultures are almost all stuck in the 3rd world.

Fvck, we should just let weak children die, it's only natural. Rape is natural, too! Mammals do it all the time.
 

JulesMaximus

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Try talking to a 40+ year old single woman about the leading male characters in the AMC series Mad Men. You'll see what women think about this article.
 

OverVolt

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If you think intentionally limiting the exposure of your genetic material, the most precious thing you have, is a natural thing then there's nothing else to say.

It means you believe in a higher power. Nothing wrong with that.

Its found in the animal kingdom usually when offspring have a long time to maturity.
 

IEC

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Well, I guess the propaganda is spreading... somehow pretty much this exact OP/title has made it to all the forums I frequent.

I'm out.
 

johnjohn320

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Thats what you can expect if you are polygamous GL OP.

Pretty sure thats also the "natural" reaction you get to your "natural" behavior. Natural is good right?

I think you missed the sarcasm in my OP (hint: I agree with you).
 

BoberFett

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And the reverse is true -- if its so unnatural, why have people been monogamus for eaons of time, and are still down to this day?

It's seems that only whores say stuff like this while monogamus people think its as natural as breathing.

Lol.. Exposed! People want validation to whore out.

All aboard the failboat...
 

yhelothar

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Dec 11, 2002
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Hmmm.

Africa and Asia - Non-monogamous

Only the Christian part of the world practices monogamy. It really wasn't until a couple hundred years after Jesus that monogamy became standard issue. A few exception in ancient Israel but still...

Where do you get that Asians are polygamous? Asians have far lower divorce rates than any other country, and family values are the cornerstone of their morals and culture for thousands of years.
 

randomrogue

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Where do I get it from? Probably from the extensive amount of time I've spent in these parts of the world.

Divorce rate or even marriage rate has nothing to do with this. It's far more complex. African cultures build relationships one woman at a time based on how much they can afford it. Asian cultures have second wives kept away from the mother of their children. A don't ask, don't tell part of their culture.

I'm not judging. I am simply pointing out that monogamy is a moral and social construct in the christian world.
 

yhelothar

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Where do I get it from? Probably from the extensive amount of time I've spent in these parts of the world.

Divorce rate or even marriage rate has nothing to do with this. It's far more complex. African cultures build relationships one woman at a time based on how much they can afford it. Asian cultures have second wives kept away from the mother of their children. A don't ask, don't tell part of their culture.

I'm not judging. I am simply pointing out that monogamy is a moral and social construct in the christian world.

Which Asian countries specifically?
 

preslove

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Natural:

Killing an infant so that you can impregnate the (former) mother.
Males fighting each other, with the winner getting to forcibly rape as many females as he likes.

Uh... scholars don't believe humans engaged in this behavior.

"Natural" is probably pretty close to bonobo sexual behavior, which involves lots and lots of group sex. Instead of males fighting each other for alpha, they'd fuck the same women and their penises would vacuum the sperm from the dude before them. This is called "sperm competition." This is why our penis is shaped like it is.
 

preslove

Lifer
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Wait, we're going back to "natural"? Great. Because "naturally" in a non-monogomous world I'd have the impulse to kill any male who intruded upon my "territory" (cheated with one of my mates). That's perfectly natural, and beneficial to me. Ensures my genes are the ones that pass on. I could also rape as many women as I saw fit. All natural!

But I have a feeling the author of that retarded column wouldn't see it that way.


If you don't want monogamy, fine; but society evolved it for a reason. It's quite noticeable that the modern non-monogomous cultures are almost all stuck in the 3rd world.

Nope.

Humans evolved as a pack of hunters and gatherers who most likely engaged in group sex. "Alpha" style sex behavior is not natural to us. That kind of shit is a result of agriculture and the invention of private property.

There's no such thing as private property in a pack of hunter gatherers. Hoarding food is just about the worst thing you can do. Fucking the same woman as some other dude isn't usually a big deal...
 

irishScott

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Nope.

Humans evolved as a pack of hunters and gatherers who most likely engaged in group sex. "Alpha" style sex behavior is not natural to us. That kind of shit is a result of agriculture and the invention of private property.

There's no such thing as private property in a pack of hunter gatherers. Hoarding food is just about the worst thing you can do. Fucking the same woman as some other dude isn't usually a big deal...

I said "natural", not "hunter-gatherer", two different things.

Even back then, from what I've readwomen were basically kidnapped between groups as the group with the highest reproductive potential survived. It was far from some egalitarian minimalist utopia.
 

preslove

Lifer
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I said "natural", not "hunter-gatherer", two different things.

Even back then, from what I've readwomen were basically kidnapped between groups as the group with the highest reproductive potential survived. It was far from some egalitarian minimalist utopia.

What the fuck do you think we were doing? We were hunter gatherers going back to homo erectus. That is, before we were modern humans...

And whatever you read is out of date. Single male alpha groups only applies to other primates, not humans. So your first statement is not true. It isn't natural to fight other males in your group for women.
 
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