Fallout 3 impressions

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante

Originally posted by: zinfamous

traditionally, sneak is pretty useless. if you're into small guns, then focus on perception and luck. As I mentioned in the other thread, each previous game gets you power armor at some point, which when equipped will boost your strength, added to the likelihood of finding a doc that can permanently boost stats permanently. Perception increases your hit chance, and luck increases your criticals. Luck also increases your rare encounters--not sure if that's a factor in this one, but it allowed you to get the better weapons before.

strength doesn't affect damage from guns, so anything more than 5 was always a waste before. (as power armor + boosts would get you to 9-10 near the end of the game) Charisma can be lower than you think--put ~7 into intelligence, and tag speech.

Does this have the attribute that lets you boost all stats by 1 from the start? I always chose that, much better than "skilled," as skill points become rather meaningless the further you go.

I usually went with S: 5, P: 7-8, E: 4-5, C: 1-2, I: 7-8, A: 6-8, L: 7-9. I always tagged small guns, speech, and lockpick. In the previous games, that pretty much opened up all the possibilities and you become devastating with the rifles. Once you start finding energy weapons, start putting some points into that.

Does Fallout 3 limit your level max?

Oh yeah: this is all based on the design before Bathesda took over...so not sure how much those numbers apply now...

That's generally the case now, too. It could be fun to throw points into some different stats/skills to just create a different kind of character, though.

The I: 2, all-stupid game FTW

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Dangerer

Originally posted by: Powernick50
My Stats are

Strength=6 (How the hell could you get by with just 1 str) - increased carry, dialogue options
Perception- 4 (Confirmed- Does not affect accuracy just location of enemies on compass)
Endurance-5 (didn't touch this)
Charisma-1 (Not quite regretting this choice yet, but speech is definately very low)
Intellect-10 (Maxed for most skill points and dialogue options
Agility-8 (Sneaking and more AP)
Luck-7 (lots of things)

My character is a gunslinger. Small arms is up high with perks along with repair, science and lockpicking are up along with sneak. Level 6 right now, I sneak around with a silenced pistol and often get one shot sneak kills.

I originally wanted to be pure evil but it seems like you shut down alot of your early dialogue options. My only complaint about this build is the lack of speech success due to low speech skill points and a 1 in charisma. I get by though..I just don't get extra caps that I could usually..but so far that has not been a problem at all.

Had no idea strength affected dialogue options, anyhow the reason I went with 1 strength is since it affects carry weight and I don't plan on being melee, power armor and bobblehead alone will boost the stat to very high by mid-end game. Remember, you can't pass the cap of 10.

I like perception a lot due, but mainly because I like lockpicking places and exploring. And also check out the sniper perk. 25% increase chance of getting headshot and requires +6 agi, +6 perception.

Higher strength does let you threaten people if you want...or it makes your attempts to do so more effective. Those stats look great. I'd have taken ST down to 5 and increased Luck though.

 

[matas]

is there an easy way to get from point A to point B without having to randomly guess the way? For example the galaxy radio mission ,you have to get to the museum of technology, I did it but, there are a lot of confusing tunnels.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Hugh H

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Slew Foot

Originally posted by: pontifex
i learned a few things so i decided to start a new character but i still can't decide where to put attribute points and what skills to take.

attribute points right now are 6, 6, 6, 5, 5, 7, 5. not sure i want to spread so thin or specialize more.
anyone have a list of what all of the stats do exactly, like how much extra carry weight each point of ST gives, or how many HPs each point of endurance gives?

i like sneak, small guns, and lockpick, because i think they will be useful, but i'm wondering if I should drop one of those for maybe medicine or repair or even other ones.


oh, and hacking is ridiculously hard...why do they have to make stuff in these games so difficult? i just keep clicking different words until i get the right one.

Theres a faq over at gamefaqs which details out all the attributes and their effects.
FOr hacking, you can eliminate the dummy words by finding all the sets of [], {}, (), that appears in a line, then you strategize the words that will give you the most bang for the buck in terms of finding the correct one.


This game is awesome so far, im taking it slow, exploring things very carefully.

traditionally, sneak is pretty useless. if you're into small guns, then focus on perception and luck. As I mentioned in the other thread, each previous game gets you power armor at some point, which when equipped will boost your strength, added to the likelihood of finding a doc that can permanently boost stats permanently. Perception increases your hit chance, and luck increases your criticals. Luck also increases your rare encounters--not sure if that's a factor in this one, but it allowed you to get the better weapons before.

strength doesn't affect damage from guns, so anything more than 5 was always a waste before. (as power armor + boosts would get you to 9-10 near the end of the game) Charisma can be lower than you think--put ~7 into intelligence, and tag speech.

Does this have the attribute that lets you boost all stats by 1 from the start? I always chose that, much better than "skilled," as skill points become rather meaningless the further you go.

I usually went with S: 5, P: 7-8, E: 4-5, C: 1-2, I: 7-8, A: 6-8, L: 7-9. I always tagged small guns, speech, and lockpick. In the previous games, that pretty much opened up all the possibilities and you become devastating with the rifles. Once you start finding energy weapons, start putting some points into that.

Does Fallout 3 limit your level max?

Oh yeah: this is all based on the design before Bathesda took over...so not sure how much those numbers apply now...

But Strength also affects how much weight you can carry... right?

yes. but as I said...in the earlier versions you always get the option to increase your stats permanently at some point, and with power armor which always gave you +3 strength when equipped...it compensated for everything. So, starting with St=5 would still get you to St 9 or 10 when it matters.

I have pack-rat problems with these types of games, and it could get really bad with Fallout. Thing is, so much of the stuff was really useless in the previous games, so I would have this carrying capacity that I didn't need. Kind of a self-check to help keep my inventory clean.

Again, I haven't played Fallout 3 yet so I couldn't say how all this is relevant here. the stats available skills and traits and such all sound familiar, though...so I assume there's a good bit of crossover. The first 2 were more or less identical...

 

[AzN]

I can see how the reviewer says Fallout 3 is oblivion with guns considering game doesn't change a thing from game play of how oblivion functioned.

I still haven't played enough of it but from I can tell it seems a lot like oblivion.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Frodolives

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Were any of you who were skeptical about the big changes to Fallout actually impressed with the game once you got it? Is it really Fallout 3, or is it Oblivion 2?

Having played F1, F2, and Oblivion, I was skeptical only because I wasn't a big fan of the style and themes of Oblivion. Otherwise I was fairly open to enjoying F3 in first person. I would have loved for the Van Buren Project to have been completed, but I am treasuring this game for what it is anyway.

I am fairly thrilled with how F3 has turned out, and to call this an Oblivion mod is just trolling by those who had already nurtured a grudge.

i nurtured a grudge against oblivion, not fallout3. just because it's true and you disagree doesn't mean it's trolling.

 

[pontifex]

Started again with new stats. If I remember correctly, I went: STR:5, PER:7, END: 5, CHA:1, INT:8, AGI:7, LUC:8. Seems to be pretty decent so far. I just save and reload for speech options until i succeed. Tagged Small Guns, Repair, and Lockpick.

A few questions that I can't seem to find the answer for:

Do the outside events pause when you look at your pip-boy? same for other things where you can't seen anything around you? i heard it pauses when you hack though.

Also, how the hell do I get that house in Megaton? i need a place to stash stuff!

 

[zerogear]

When you use PipBoy, I'm pretty sure it pauses. same as when you use VATS

 

[RS8]

Wow, I just got owned.

It won't let me complete the main story mission, so I cannot progress the game at all.

 

[Frodolives]

Outside events pause when in Pipboy, and I think you get the Megaton shack by disarming the bomb. If you didn't get it, then talk to the sheriff.

 

[Dangerer]

I went ahead and restarted my entire game (had about 10 hours in lol). This time I went

S = 1 (still think i should have raised it, damn 170 carry weight with the stength bobblehead is too low early on!)
P = 5 (yeah, it really didn't matter to me anymore since a majority of locks I found were lvl 50 at most)
E = 5
C = 4
I = 9
A = 7
L = 9

Right from the very beginning, I avoided killing as much as possible and rushed my ass over to Rivet City before hitting level 3 to get the Int bobblehead to max out int right away. It was long and tedious, but I'm a huge stat whore and couldn't enjoy the game knowing my character was slightly less powerful =O

 

[imported_Imp]

Dang. Think I may have used a not so optimized character setup. My intel was only 5 at start, didn't get it to 6 until after I used 2 perk points on a stat boost (+5 unarmed and explosives); I didn't see anything better at the time.

Luckily, I'm not as big a stat whore as I use to be. Oh well, my character is still kicking ass and it looks like 1 intel point equals 1 extra skillpoint per level You can get a perk that gives +3. I focused on big weapons and melee so I suck with small arms, haven't upgraded that skill once, but rape groups with my sledge hammer.

I have to also say that I am having a huge blast just doing sidequests that originate from Megaton. And holy crap, I didn't know that there was an entire urban city to explore. I though they cheaped out like other games, stuck 5 high rises in an area and called it a city. My main quest progression is still the exact same as the day I crawled out of the ground.

Anyone actually working through the main quest?

 

[dlock13]

Originally posted by: Imp
Anyone actually working through the main quest?

Nope, because once you complete the main quest, the game is over. Apparently, they decided to finish the game instead of allowing you to complete side quests and the like.

However, I've done probably two things to advance it just so when I actually go to explore the next area, I don't have that nagging thought in my head that I should have probably done the main quest to see if there was something I needed to do here.

You know?


Anyway, I love doing all the side quests in Megaton. I just got done with Moira's, and I must say, she's ANNOYING. I hope I don't have to do anything else with her! :|

 

[SSChevy2001]

I'm doing some of both main and side missions. I just got to the brotherhood headquarters. Got to get trained to used their power armor suit, should be fun.

So far I'm really liking this game, and I hated Oblivion.

LVL 13
S 10
P 7
E 6
C 6
I 10
A 5
L 5

Got the shack in Megaton where I put away my junk and food collection.

 

[fallout man]

I think that this was brought up before, but the answer to the question did not make any sense for me.

Is there any way to change firing mode (as in, make the Chinese assault rifle fire 1 shot and not 3 in VATS)?

I don't see where I should be clicking...

 

[newb111]

Originally posted by: fallout man
I think that this was brought up before, but the answer to the question did not make any sense for me.

Is there any way to change firing mode (as in, make the Chinese assault rifle fire 1 shot and not 3 in VATS)?

I don't see where I should be clicking...

Having the same issue here. Burning through ammo on my assault rifle for no reason.

 

[pontifex]

i think he was joking or something. i'm burning through ammo too.

i have to say that even though i keep playing, it's not really holding my attention. I don't seem to care about the story, my character, or other characters. Combat is getting to be tedious and boring. It just doesn't feel like a FPS and VATS is cool for a bit, but gets old. I haven't died yet (came very close once or twice) but I don't feel like my character is very good at it. I've got like 75 or 80 points in Small arms (with a set of armor) but I still seem to miss just as much as I did in the very beginning.

 

[MTDEW]

Originally posted by: pontifex

i have to say that even though i keep playing, it's not really holding my attention. I don't seem to care about the story, my character, or other characters. Combat is getting to be tedious and boring. It just doesn't feel like a FPS and VATS is cool for a bit, but gets old. I haven't died yet (came very close once or twice) but I don't feel like my character is very good at it. I've got like 75 or 80 points in Small arms (with a set of armor) but I still seem to miss just as much as I did in the very beginning.

So its not just me.
I can't put my finger on why i'm not enjoying this game.
I mean, everything is there, its all implemented right and the missions seem enough.

Maybe its just one of those times where my brain wants an action shooter instead of an rpg.
Maybe i should give Dead Space a go and come back to FO3 later.

 

[SSChevy2001]

Well finally done! Shame you can't continue the side mission once your finish, but I doubt I'm going to finish them anyway. They honestly become a little boring after a while. That said the last 2 mission were a lot of fun.

Oh well time for a new game.

 

[PhatoseAlpha]

The ending to this game is awful. And it's not merely awful, it's actually insultingly bad.

 

[hdeck]

so i made the mistake of nuking megaton and then letting the ghouls take over tenpenny tower without having another other towns where i can get supplies. i am now feeling like i wasted hours because i see no hope in site

 

[SSChevy2001]

I'm currently storing all my supplies in my megaton home. Hopefully there should be other places.

Got a super mutant friend that going on the side missions with me. The only problem is I have to jump ahead of him to get the kills. He lets me have a few though.

Now I got more armor, ammo, and weapons than I'll every need, so hopefully it shouldn't take to long to finish the side missions.

Anyone get to level 20 yet? Just about at level 18 here.

 

[CrystalBay]

Actually, this game would have been a killer app if it had some more scenarios like, Lamplight Caverns and Tranquility lane.

 

[imported_Imp]

It seems to be having the opposite effect on me. I'm getting slightly more into it as I keep playing. Some subway tunnels and non-humanoid monsters are getting boring/annoying though. However, exploring the city to the south-east is taking up all my time right now. I think I made at least 5 stash/bottlecap runs today humping crap back. Don't have much use for the money, except repairs, but I do this with all RPGs and always end up with huge reserves of everything. Obssessive compulsive?

Is anyone using laser weapons by the way? I have no points in it except from books plus the base, tried using a few for shits and kickers, they seem ok, but not much variety. If I bothered to skill up in that and small arms, I'd probably have a lot easier a time right now. Very happy with big weapons though I'm being way too conservative with mini and flame ammo.

 

[BALIstik916]

Is anyone else having a lot of trouble with enemies?

**SPOILER ALERT
I went to Megaton city and embarked on a quest to deliver a message for Lucy (I think that was her name) and am having trouble with monsters in the tunnels en route to the gang that supposedly took her brother?