Final Dell Build!

[hurtstotalktoyou]

You didn't see his original posts. He's unwilling to open his case; trust us - a Dell system (or a Mac) is by far the best choice for him.

I saw the comments. I'm trying to say that he shouldn't be unwilling to build his own, much less open his case.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: dclive
PS: Beating that deal - without Dell pricey extras - but with 22" Dell monitor is very, very difficult.

The 22 monitor got bad reviews on cnet. (plus I don't want a 22, the highest I would go is 20. Large screen size might stretch out gpu performance, and I don't want that.)

I saw the comments. I'm trying to say that he shouldn't be unwilling to build his own, much less open his case.

I don't have time.

I need the computer sent to me, with a warranty and everything installed.

I don't have the willingness to follow a DIY guide and spend dozens of hours installing everything and teaking the BIOS etc..


Maybe I'll buy a cheaper system and learn then, but I'm not going to risk it with my first system.

I don't have the privilege of being able to upgrade my computer every 2 years like some people here.

 

[KungFused]

Yes, a decent quality 300W PSU will support an 8800GTS. The watts aren't important, the amps on the 12V rail are, and Dell doesn't skimp on its 12V rail the way the manufacturers of cheap PSUs do.

 

[dclive]

BTW, I just put together the system you bought, but I applied the $350 off coupon. It came out to $998 (with $20 more spent on speakers since I couldn't find that model of speaker you quoted, but I did get the same 19" LCD). You really should use that coupon... (price quoted is before tax)

Edit: Opps - $1078 - I forgot about Encarta/Word/etc. Still, that's $220 less.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: KungFused
Yes, a decent quality 300W PSU will support an 8800GTS. The watts aren't important, the amps on the 12V rail are, and Dell doesn't skimp on its 12V rail the way the manufacturers of cheap PSUs do.

Neither does Acer, apparently.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: dclive
BTW, I just put together the system you bought, but I applied the $350 off coupon. It came out to $998 (with $20 more spent on speakers since I couldn't find that model of speaker you quoted, but I did get the same 19" LCD). You really should use that coupon... (price quoted is before tax)

I did use the coupon.



1,011 shipped

I chose the media reader which was $20 more.

 

[dclive]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: dclive
BTW, I just put together the system you bought, but I applied the $350 off coupon. It came out to $998 (with $20 more spent on speakers since I couldn't find that model of speaker you quoted, but I did get the same 19" LCD). You really should use that coupon... (price quoted is before tax)

I did use the coupon.



1,011 shipped

I chose the media reader which was $20 more.

Yes, I got the media reader too:

Module Description Description Product Code & SKU Product Code & SKU
Dell Inspiron 530 Intel® Core?2 Duo Processor E6320 (4MB L2 Cache,1.86GHz,1066 FSB) SME63H [222-9173]
Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium VHP3E [313-5582][420-5769][420-5924][420-6436][420-6540][420-6995][420-7244][463-2282]
Memory 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz- 2DIMMs 2GB62 [311-7239]
Keyboard and Mouse Bundles Dell USB Keyboard and Dell Optical USB Mouse EKOM [310-7966][310-8025]
Monitor 19 inch SE198WFP Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor SE19WFP [320-5489]
Video Cards 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT-DDR3 NV8600 [320-5747]
Hard Drives 320GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache? 320S [341-4810]
Floppy Drive and Media Reader 13 in 1 Media Card Reader MCR13 [341-4965]
Mouse Mouse included in Wireless, Laser or Bluetooth Package N [310-1966]
Network Interface Integrated 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem & Wireless 56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-4593]
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0 AAREAD [412-0914]
Optical Drive 16X DVD+/-RW Drive 16DVDRW [313-5270][420-6464]
Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio IS [313-2758]
Speakers Dell A525 30 Watt 2.1 Stereo Speakers with Subwoofer A525 [313-4032]
Office Productivity Software (Pre-Installed) Microsoft® Works Suite 2006 -Includes MS WORD 2002,Encarta 2006 + more DWORKS [412-0858]
Security Software McAfee SecurityCenter with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 15-months VMCAF1Y [420-6591]
Limited Warranty, Services and Support Options 1Yr In-Home Service, Parts + Labor, 24x7 Phone Support S111OS [950-3337][960-3249][982-4310][983-3680][987-3137][987-6238]
Internet Access Service 6 Months of America Online Membership Included AOLDHS [412-0933][412-0934][412-0935]
Miscellaneous Award Winning Service and Support S5302 [466-7688]
Dell Digital Entertainment No Entertainment software pre-installed NODE [464-9572]
Labels Windows Vista? Premium VPD [310-8626]
DataSafe Online Backup Free 3GB DataSafe Online Backup for 1 Year

 

[dclive]

Ah, gotcha. I was looking at the OP, not the followup.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: dclive

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: dclive
BTW, I just put together the system you bought, but I applied the $350 off coupon. It came out to $998 (with $20 more spent on speakers since I couldn't find that model of speaker you quoted, but I did get the same 19" LCD). You really should use that coupon... (price quoted is before tax)

I did use the coupon.



1,011 shipped

I chose the media reader which was $20 more.

Yes, I got the media reader too:

Module Description Description Product Code & SKU Product Code & SKU
Dell Inspiron 530 Intel® Core?2 Duo Processor E6320 (4MB L2 Cache,1.86GHz,1066 FSB) SME63H [222-9173]
Operating System Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium VHP3E [313-5582][420-5769][420-5924][420-6436][420-6540][420-6995][420-7244][463-2282]
Memory 2GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz- 2DIMMs 2GB62 [311-7239]
Keyboard and Mouse Bundles Dell USB Keyboard and Dell Optical USB Mouse EKOM [310-7966][310-8025]
Monitor 19 inch SE198WFP Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor SE19WFP [320-5489]
Video Cards 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT-DDR3 NV8600 [320-5747]
Hard Drives 320GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM) w/DataBurst Cache? 320S [341-4810]
Floppy Drive and Media Reader 13 in 1 Media Card Reader MCR13 [341-4965]
Mouse Mouse included in Wireless, Laser or Bluetooth Package N [310-1966]
Network Interface Integrated 10/100 Ethernet IN [430-0412]
Modem & Wireless 56K PCI Data Fax Modem DFAX [313-4593]
Adobe Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader 7.0 AAREAD [412-0914]
Optical Drive 16X DVD+/-RW Drive 16DVDRW [313-5270][420-6464]
Sound Cards Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio IS [313-2758]
Speakers Dell A525 30 Watt 2.1 Stereo Speakers with Subwoofer A525 [313-4032]
Office Productivity Software (Pre-Installed) Microsoft® Works Suite 2006 -Includes MS WORD 2002,Encarta 2006 + more DWORKS [412-0858]
Security Software McAfee SecurityCenter with anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall, 15-months VMCAF1Y [420-6591]
Limited Warranty, Services and Support Options 1Yr In-Home Service, Parts + Labor, 24x7 Phone Support S111OS [950-3337][960-3249][982-4310][983-3680][987-3137][987-6238]
Internet Access Service 6 Months of America Online Membership Included AOLDHS [412-0933][412-0934][412-0935]
Miscellaneous Award Winning Service and Support S5302 [466-7688]
Dell Digital Entertainment No Entertainment software pre-installed NODE [464-9572]
Labels Windows Vista? Premium VPD [310-8626]
DataSafe Online Backup Free 3GB DataSafe Online Backup for 1 Year

I got the E420 instead of the E4320.

 

[Noobtastic]

Pretty good deal eh?

Throw in an 8800GTS and it's still cheaper than the XPS 410.


Great find guys. You saved me a s**t load of cash.

 

[dclive]

The poster with that coupon helped a lot!

I'd not do $80 for McAfee - Avast is free.

I'd have a tough time spending $$ on MS Word XP, too - does anyone today not already own at least one version of Word from some computer sale or other?

And RE: The 8300GS - I'm surprised you'd buy that. I'd thought you wanted to play games. That will play them, but barely. If gaming was your intent, why not buy with Intel graphics (save $50), and then slap in the 8800GTS when you get it?

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: dclive
The poster with that coupon helped a lot!

I'd not do $80 for McAfee - Avast is free.

I'd have a tough time spending $$ on MS Word XP, too - does anyone today not already own at least one version of Word from some computer sale or other?

And RE: The 8300GS - I'm surprised you'd buy that. I'd thought you wanted to play games. That will play them, but barely. If gaming was your intent, why not buy with Intel graphics (save $50), and then slap in the 8800GTS when you get it?

I didn't get the 8300GS.

I got the 8600GT.

 

[bamacre]

Only suckers buy Dell at retail prices. The system in the OP is horribly overpriced.

The Dell Inspiron 530 won't fit dual slot video cards by the way. Should have got an XPS 410.

The besy way to buy a Dell is to get a Refurb and upgrade it yourself. And no, that does not void the warranty.

 

[KungFused]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Only suckers buy Dell at retail prices. The system in the OP is horribly overpriced.

The Dell Inspiron 530 won't fit dual slot video cards by the way. Should have got an XPS 410.

Someone forgot to read the whole thread.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: KungFused

Originally posted by: bamacre
Only suckers buy Dell at retail prices. The system in the OP is horribly overpriced.

The Dell Inspiron 530 won't fit dual slot video cards by the way. Should have got an XPS 410.

Someone forgot to read the whole thread.

Doesn't matter. If he bought a Dell from dell.com, even if he used a coupon code, he got ripped a new one.

And again, with the Insp 530, he is limited to a single slot video card, i.e., no 8800 GTS.

 

[dclive]

Really?

Can you put together a C2D 1.83 system for under $649 with 22" Dell monitor? (Emphasis, Dell 22" monitor) ?

Please show us how. Please include a legal copy of Vista Home Premium, 250GB, C2D1.83.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: dclive
Really?

Can you put together a C2D 1.83 system for under $649 with 22" Dell monitor? (Emphasis, Dell 22" monitor) ?

Please show us how. Please include a legal copy of Vista Home Premium, 250GB, C2D1.83.

The spec's of that system are low. 1GB of memory, low-end C2D, etc. Plus the Insp 530 design limits him to a single slot video card.

He would have been better off getting a refurb (or previously ordered new), that comes with the exact warranty, and upgrading it where necessary, and getting a 22in LCD elsewhere.

So, yeah, building is more expensive, that is not the direction I was going. I linked to an XPS 410 earlier, with an E6320, and 2GB of ram for less than 450. Better system, better chipset, supports dual slot video cards, and the PSU can easily handle an 8800 GTX.

Or he could have pick up one of these and added a dvd burner, and a hard drive and picked up a 22in lcd elsewhere and spent about the same amount.

 

[dclive]

So he *didn't* get 'ripped a new one', but it's possible his needs are significantly lower than yours. Would you say that's fair?

 

[yuppiejr]

For the love of god, let this thread die - if he's finally settled on his new Dell system and ordered, thank god - lets stop second guessing him and let the guy move on with his life. The rest of us could have certainly done more with the same money, but with his complete lack of risk tolerance and unwillingness to try doing some work on his own system limited his options severely.

 

[Noobtastic]

The spec's of that system are low. 1GB of memory, low-end C2D, etc. Plus the Insp 530 design limits him to a single slot video card.

He would have been better off getting a refurb (or previously ordered new), that comes with the exact warranty, and upgrading it where necessary, and getting a 22in LCD elsewhere.

So, yeah, building is more expensive, that is not the direction I was going. I linked to an XPS 410 earlier, with an E6320, and 2GB of ram for less than 450. Better system, better chipset, supports dual slot video cards, and the PSU can easily handle an 8800 GTX.

Or he could have pick up one of these and added a dvd burner, and a hard drive and picked up a 22in lcd elsewhere and spent about the same amount.

Read the god d@mn thread.


I ordered the 510 with 2 gigs of memory, E6420 (opposed to the XPS E4320,) vista, 320 gig HD, DVDR/W, 19" monitor, etc..

The other downpoint is the 8600GT, but that's good enough for me (it can run BF2 perfectly.)


All this at an AMAZING $1,020. The XPS 410 had exactly the same specs aside from a 375 WATT PSU, E320, and an 8600GTS.

You know what the total was?

$1,560 shipped.

With the 510, I can use the extra $500 bucks to replace the PSU and get an 8800GT or GTX...hell, maybe an ULTRA and it would cost exactly the same as the XPS 410.


I didn't want the 20 or 22" monitor considering it would weaken my gaming resolution (it's only an 8600GT, not 8800GTX.)


READ THE THREAD before criticizing. I mentioned the specs several times.

 

[LordNoob]

I would also like to vouch for Dclive's statement that a 300 watt PSU can support an 8800GTS 320. I have the same Acer Q6600 system he is referring to and am running an 8800GTS 320 completely stable.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
I ordered the 510 with 2 gigs of memory, E6420 (opposed to the XPS E4320,) vista, 320 gig HD, DVDR/W, 19" monitor, etc..

I was referring to the $649 system, not your config.

With the 510, I can use the extra $500 bucks to replace the PSU and get an 8800GT or GTX...hell, maybe an ULTRA and it would cost exactly the same as the XPS 410.

No, you can't. Why? Because like I said, twice, in this thread, the system you bought does NOT fit dual slot video cards. That is why I suggested the XPS 410, and no, I didn't suggest you pay $1500+ either. [/quote]

I wish I had seen this thread before, I could have helped. I buy 100's of Dell systems every year.

Hell, I have an E520 with an E6300, 2GB, and 8600 GTS on Ebay right now for $750.

 

[yuppiejr]

Some people are too smart for their own good, I'm sure we'll be seeing an "I just ordered a Dell and it only allows single slot video cards, how do I return it?!?" thread in about 2 weeks.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: yuppiejr
Some people are too smart for their own good, I'm sure we'll be seeing an "I just ordered a Dell and it only allows single slot video cards, how do I return it?!?" thread in about 2 weeks.

:laugh:

 

[Noobtastic]

I was referring to the $649 system, not your config.

Why??

No, you can't. Why? Because like I said, twice, in this thread, the system you bought does NOT fit dual slot video cards.

Ok. What kind of videocards can I upgrade to?

7950GT? 8800GTS? What?

That is why I suggested the XPS 410, and no, I didn't suggest you pay $1500+ either.

$1,500 is the cheapest. I need an O/S, monitor, flash reader, 2 gigs of ram, etc..

Total comes to $1,500. You can't make anymore cheaper unless you downgrade the card to a 7300LE or get rid of the flash reader...which would only be like $200 bucks less.

I wish I had seen this thread before, I could have helped. I buy 100's of Dell systems every year.

By your recommendations, and your inability to calculate hardware appropriately (as in I need a monitor, cpu, videocard, o/s, etc..)

Hell, I have an E520 with an E6300, 2GB, and 8600 GTS on Ebay right now for $750.

I could have gotten the same thing - although that would be WITHOUT monitor and 320 gig HD.

Now, back to the dual-slot card thing.

What upgrades am I looking at in the future (GPU wise?)


I like to see you show me a computer with the SAME EXACT specs as my 510 at a lower price (that's not from a separate retailer like ebay, which doesn't come with the warranty I require.)

Including the monitor, HD, GPU, SOFTWARE, etc..




edit:

Just for reference, here is the parts:

1 222-9177 Inspiron 530, Intel Core2 Duo processor E6420 (2.13GHz 1066FSB)
1 311-7239 2GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz
1 310-8025 Dell USB Keyboard
1 310-7966 Dell Optical USB Mouse
1 320-5489 Dell 19 inch E198WFP Flat Panel Analog and Digital
1 320-5747 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT- DDR3
1 341-4810 320GB Serial ATA 2 Hard Drive (7200RPM)
1 341-4965 Dell 13 in 1 Media Card Reader
1 420-6540 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, English
1 420-5769 Internet Search and Portal
1 420-5924 Icon Consolidation Application
1 463-2282 Dell Owners Manual installed on your system,click on icon after system set-up to access
1 420-6436 Vista, PC-Restore, Dim/Insp
1 420-6995 DELL SUPPORT 3.4,DIM/INSP
1 313-5582 Dell Resource DVD with Application Backup
1 420-7244 Dell Support Center 1.0
1 310-1966 Mouse included in Dell Wireless or Bluetooth Package
1 430-0412 Integrated NIC card
1 313-4593 56K PCI Data Fax Modem
1 412-0914 Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0
1 313-5270 16X DVD+/-RW Drive
1 420-6464 Roxio Creator Basic
1 313-2758 Integrated Audio
1 313-4482 Dell A225 Speakers

Total: $1,020 SHIPPED.