[Final] E6300 OC'ing my thought

[yacoub]

Similar issue on my A8N-SLI Premium I guess, and many boards in general - limited by the board. My friggin' Venice 3200+ A64 ran like a champ at 3800+ speeds, at same temps as when stock 3200+ speed, yet things were flakey once in a while. Generally it would be a lock-up during gaming with the sound looping. I'm replacing my GPU to ensure that's not the source of the instability. (I may find in the end it is my soundcard drivers.) What makes be believe it is my motherboard though, is that I also experience some strange hard disk behavior in Windows from time to time. Something's screwy on my Asus.

Next time I build a rig I'm planning to do two things: Use a board by Intel (since it'll be an Intel build w/ a c2d chip), and spend more to buy a faster part from the beginning and avoid all the inconsistencies overclocking seems to bring with it. Using a board by the original manufacturer instead of a 3rd party should ensure greater reliability and stability, and so should a lack of oc'ing.

Still, this thread is really exciting and I'm impressed with how easily your conroe is leaping up to almost 3GHz.

 

[yacoub]

Originally posted by: theteamaqua
GA-965-DS3 + E6300 = 3.5GHz on air

by jeffchen :

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g223/jeffchen1204/ga-965p-ds3/500x7.jpg

on air cooling, tower 120

E6400 dual 32m(, now thats the clock i would run 24/7 ...

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g223/jeffchen1204/ga-965p-ds3/487x7-32mx2.jpg

What RAM are they using and what is the "tower 120" cooling? What sort of temps are they seeing on the CPU and the northbridge?

 

[theteamaqua]

well thats pretty much the maximum any one can reach with air cooling (tower 120 is a heatsink + fan, the besT)

to be hinest as long as i can boot. i consider it as stable. I never pass dual rpiem with 920D 4.1GHz .. i turn it on 24/7 and gaming / video encoding .. no problemo

 

[lopri]

Final edit in the first post.

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: lopri
Definitely FSB limited. To make things worse, the MCH is also stressed by memory. So when FSB is low, your memory shows its full potential. But as you raise the FSB, you will have to lower the memory speed. I wouldn't doubt this chip would do 7 x 500 on a capable motherboard.

Don't fret yet. Your chip may still have some mhz left once newer boards supporting greater than 450mhz FSB comes out, but when, who knows. Where's DFI?

 

[Cynicist]

My gigabyte ds3 came in a little while ago, once my E6300 is here (monday), I'll check if all ds3 boards are created equal.

Good job on the OC

 

[theteamaqua]

GA-965-DS3 + E6300 is the best combo, well E6400 is also good with DS3

 

[DrMrLordX]

Does the GA-965 always get up to 500 mhz FSB, or is that with a board mod or what?

 

[secretanchitman]

thanks for the mobo tips...gonna try it out on my own p5w dh and 930 now.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: dexvx
FYI, you shouldnt do installs with anything overclocked.

I dissagree, you shouldn't do it if you don't know its stable (if you know it is stable that is another story) - which you usually already need to have an OS installed to test such a thing. Although I do agree in some ways, I'd setup the system and run it stock, install the OS and then OC (and test for stability) from there.

But if it proves stable (well my definition of stable is on the more strict side) @ 3GHz I wouldn't have any hesitation installing a new OS with my overclocked system.

 

[Mucker]

What works best for me is to install the OS, drivers, updates, and programs at stock everything. Ensures complete stability. Then, I use Acronis True Image to create an image of the C:. After that, I can play to my hearts content knowing that a perfect backup is minutes away if she goes TU........

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: Mucker
What works best for me is to install the OS, drivers, updates, and programs at stock everything. Ensures complete stability. Then, I use Acronis True Image to create an image of the C:. After that, I can play to my hearts content knowing that a perfect backup is minutes away if she goes TU........

lol, thats exactly what i do :thumbsup:

 

[lopri]

How does that drive image thnigy work with partitions? I use my 250GB disk partitioned to 2 volumes (C: for OS/Apps and D: for Data/Documents). Thing is I mount the D: as "My Documents" folder. What's the best way to make an image?

P.S. small update: Currently running @3010MHz but it doesn't mean much since I have to run the memory slower than FSB for that.

 

[Avalon]

It's too bad you don't have a DS3 laying around. I've been reading up on it over at XS and several people have gotten 475+ FSB with Allendales on that board.

Nonetheless, that's a fantastic overclock.

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
Allendale has half the l2 cache (2 megs vs 4 megs on Conroe) and no VT. It may be missing some power management features too, but I'm not sure.

I think it's just the E4xxx Allendales that will lack VT.

 

[Nightmare225]

I thought the e6300 was a Conroe, just with 2mb of cache?

 

[lopri]

It's a Conroe with half the L2 cache, yes. They call it Allendale. I just booted the system @7x440, btw.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: Avalon


I think it's just the E4xxx Allendales that will lack VT.

See, that's the thing . . . I don't think the E6300 or E6400 chips are Allendales at all. They're just Conroes with half the cache disabled. Allendale is supposed to be missing a few features ala the E4xxx chips.

Of course, it's just splitting hairs over names, but . . . eh whatever.

In any case, that's an excellent overclock. I'd like to hear more about the DS3 board if/when more is learned. $150 for a board that can hit 475+ mhz FSB is good in my book.

 

[zsdersw]

6300 and 6400's show up as Allendales on CPU-Z.

 

[Zebo]

They have the exact same die size accoring to anand which tells me it's the same chip as Conroe with half the cache disabled.

 

[Thor86]

Originally posted by: Cynicist
My gigabyte ds3 came in a little while ago, once my E6300 is here (monday), I'll check if all ds3 boards are created equal.

Good job on the OC

Great prices on the DS3, not a fan of Gigabyte boards, but at those prices and higher FSB clocking, why not. Keep us posted.

 

[Skott]

Congrats on the nice overclock, lopri.

 

[lopri]

Thank you, Skott. Overall, though, I feel it's easier to OC on Intel platform than on AMD platform. Or better put, it's simpler. In A64 OC'ing, as well as finding the limits on your CPU, memory, and chipset, respectively, you also had to find the sweet spot with balance. It often took days to find that sweet spot with countless trial-and-error's. On the other hand, with Conroe on 975X it took me less than 24 hours to find the balance.. (well, actually imbalance might be a better description) Being easy should be a good thing and it indeed is, but I should admit it's not as fun as OC'ing Opterons. Hopefully it won't take too long for motherboard manufacturers to give us some seriously capable boards so that we can truly push these excellent CPUs.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: lopri
Hopefully it won't take too long for motherboard manufacturers to give us some seriously capable boards so that we can truly push these excellent CPUs.

I concur. Someone needs to release a budget board that does 571 mhz FSB reliably. I won't hold my breath waiting for it, but I'd sure like it if it happened.

 

[lopri]

Currently keeping my eye on those Gigabyte boards.. But since I have P5W-DH for now, I will wait till dust settles down so everything is somewhat clear. MSI have been awefully quiet, haven't they?

 

[Zebo]

Nice work Lopri..

Your motherboard's capability of high FSB will be the most limiting factor in OC'ing this low-multiplier CPU.

This cant be repeated enough.. look at anands testing none of the boards got 400FSB....even the DS3, 400Mhz seems to be about average at Xtreme so anything less than abou 8 or 9x multi will not satisfy existing X2ers around 2.6- 3Ghz .. you just won't gain much buying a 6300 that's capping at 2800Mhz (7x400) ..sure it wil be faster but not by a lot to justify $400+ outlay not including ram.

That's why only the high multi 6600 and maybe even the 6700 are in my future unless some real 24/7 high clocking mobos come out...no way am I buying a chip only to have it's max capped by some motherboard.

I bet these allendales can do 4Ghz if only a board will allow it.