Firefox Myths

[IlllI]

Originally posted by: BW86
yawn

 

[MrFlibble]

Fable (Definition) - A fiction or half-truth, especially one that forms part of an ideology, usually widely believed but possibly just pulled out of one person's butt. While Firefox is a decent Web Browser, there are numerous Fables I spread around the Internet regarding it just so I can debunk them. Hopefully if I advertise this on every technology-related message board on the Internet under a dozen or so different names, enough people will click on my ads to make me filthy rich.

http://nanobox.chipx86.com/FirefoxFables/

 

[MustangSVT]

hmm.. im trying opera and it seems interesting. ill use it on my system when i get home i guess.

 

[Noema]

At this point, I mainly use Firefox for 2 reasons:

Wide variety of extensions + tabbed browsing

I've been using it for so long now using other browsers just feels plain weird

IE is safe if:

ActiveX is kept under control, and one runs a patched version of XPSP2 with limited user privileges.

IE also feels a lot faster, as does Opera. However, Firefox offers somewhat of a Placebo effect, and it does help if you can't limit user privileges (like in older Win9x OSes) and the users are generally not computer saavy. After being hit with spyware time and again, I installed FF in my folks' PC and it has helped quite a bit.

 

[MustangSVT]

been using opera for past 3 hours. I think ill use this from now on. I especially like how it reverts back to the original tab when the linked tab is closed and tabbed download is a nice feature.

 

[theMan]

IE doesnt let you encrypt text, like so: K2qw2E+pObUSNyb0Doh922uONo/OiAPud0jgkSXQltGeQZ6aKxFFEg==

its fun, and browsers should be fun, therefore no ie for me. also, it looks better, its way more fun to customise.

 

[kamper]

Originally posted by: MrFlibble
http://nanobox.chipx86.com/FirefoxFables/

That was funny, but probably a little overboard

None of the info in the original article was actually news and it obviously doesn't change my take. The only thing I'll comment on is that the ff people shot themselves in the foot with that stupid 'more secure than IE' campaign with the firefox branded condoms and stuff. I hope they didn't really believe that it was just going to be that easy.

 

[Doom Machine]

cripes for one thing the article was written by someone named arthur k. whom may just be some ms fanboy and apparantly really doesnt know anyhting since he obviously coped from sources and lists them as "proof" which in turn none have hard evidence proving any of the facts but i think its safe to say that its more fact that there is no browser is perfect or most secure, any bob or fred can write articles like that based on specific sources without showing other sources that contradict the claims...which there are many

why not just let everyone use whatever they want instead of trying to hardsell personal opinions in hopes that everyone switches

 

[kamper]

he obviously coped from sources and lists them as "proof" which in turn none have hard evidence proving any of the facts

When's the last time you really saw anybody prove anything on the internet?

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: GeneralAres
KoolDrew,

Anything useful to add? Or does the Firefox Myths information scare you so much you feel compelled to attempt to personally attack me?

He's just clowning you. I remember the thread he's talking about and you deserve the clowning. I'm guessing the Firefox Myths doesn't really rattle him either. I'm a die hard IE user and it made me yawn.

 

[MustangSVT]

question for operah.

How do you get it to refresh all the tabbed sites at once?

 

[MrFlibble]

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.os...ertech+firefox&rnum=1#db7ca7cd7663ccbb

Here's proof that GeneralAres is in fact the notorious internet spammer, Mastertech.

Mastertech was reported for this incident of spamming a Google Group. Notice that his email address was GeneralAres@gmail.com

 

[feraltoad]

Fact: Neither does Firefox. You cannot compare two software applications by what you can get plugins for. You can get an ad blocking program for IE and every other browser out there.

? lol. Just like you can't compare camera/computers/cars/etc. by what upgrade options are directly available to them? O wait you can....

Firefox is easy to get fanboyish about when it has so much cool stuff you can do with it. I can't stand browsing now w/out my "setup" it just makes everything convenient, easy, and quick.

 

[GeneralAres]

More Updates:


v1.1.0

Market Share Myths - Category Added
Market Share Myths - Firefox Achieved 20% Market Share in Europe Added
Security Myths - Firefox is More Secure because it is not integrated into the OS Added


v1.0.3

Security Myths - Firefox Extensions are Safe Added


v1.0.2

Market Share Myths - Firefox Achieved 10% Market Share in 2005 Added
Security Myths - Firefox is More Secure by not using ActiveX Added
Feature Myths - Firefox fully supports the most important W3C Standards Added

 

[Fish11]

He's got quite the rep at the Opera forums also.

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/se...er&limitdate=any&sortby=post&disp=post

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

IE7 or Opera ftw.

 

[clickynext]

Myth: It really matters what browser you use.

Fact: No one gives a damn.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Myth: Opera is the most secure browser.
Truth: It's not. Source.

Myth - "Firefox is More Secure because it is not integrated into the OS"

Reality - "The issue of not being part of the Operating System is an interesting one though that is frequently the subject of misunderstanding. IE is part of the Windows Operating System so that parts of the OS and other applications can rely on the functionality and APIs being present. IE in turn relies on Operating System functionality to do it's job. To be clear there are no Operating System APIs that IE uses that are not documented on MSDN as part of the platform SDK and available to other browsers and any other software that runs on Windows. The security of any browser is irrelevant to if it is part of the operating system. If we are to debate security of browsers then let's bring in relevant arguments and accurate details about different possible attacks rather than rely on the irrational fear that because IE is part of the operating system it must be exposing OS functionality to the web. This is not the case as any software has access to the same set of OS APIs and can therefore expose the same set of OS functionality as IE."

Reality translated: "It's just not!" Come on, provide something a little better than a Microsoftie just saying it isn't true.

Security Myths - Firefox Extensions are Safe Added

One extension has a noted hole and all of a sudden they're all insecure? Bugs happen, one issue (a small one at that) isn't a big deal. :roll:

Myth - "Firefox is More Secure by not using ActiveX"

No mention of how ActiveX kill bits can be bypassed? What a surprise. :roll:

Is't the firefox symbol trademarked, or copyrighted, or something? Did you get permission to use it?

For the record, I don't like Firefox.

 

[konakona]

I must say I am quite addicted to the favorites built into the address bar in Opera.

Nothing beats Opera/Proxomitron...
Judging by Secunia, Opera 8.x has the best track record. Right now I'm using Opera 9 beta.

It seems to hold true. I have not had ONE spyware/adware/malware, not ONE virus/worm/etc. using this combo (nor have I with FireFox). I see advertisements about once in a blue moon. I can't remember the last time I saw one...it's been too long. I almost miss the ads/pop-ups! Proxomitron isn't your typical sluggish proxy system. Very fast and optimized. Just as fast when you don't use it. Opera 9 is the only browser for me that was immune to the memory-overflowing attack posted a while back. FireFox slowed to a halt, unstable, and IE slowed and eventually stabilized. Opera did nothing. Shows you how multi-threaded it is having the other tabs still stable.

I wasnt even aware there was such an attack, but I realized it would just hog all the memory like crazy, so I switched to opera. interface seems to be more intuitive with opera. for instance, you have the 'x' button for closing for each window instead on the right corner. took me a few minutes getting used to, but it makes way more sense this way. having all the sessions saved on exit by default was also nice, although I just got that plugin for FF on my linux box, works much or less the same way

So whats the big deal bout the browser integrated into the OS? is it the tiny extra amount of space that you are mainly concerned with, or just the fact that you are strictly anti-MS everything? Just curious here, although I dont use IE quite as often, I dont see how that could be so bad for an average user.

Also, since everyone seems to be in love with tabbed browsing, I must urge you to migrate to fb2k. It only makes sense to have more control over your playlists just the way you would like it to happen with internet browsing. Columns_UI FTW :thumbsup:

I do get some tracker reg entries or cookies that I regularly get rid of using adaware. Is that such a bad thing? as long as it doesnt cause slowdowns on my computer, I can live with that just fine.